What the oil spill tells us about Obama.

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    That he is not all-powerful. Some had this notion that his simply being elected would solve all the worlds problems. It hasn't. They've gotten worse.

    HE oversaw the Mineral Management Services for 1.5 years, so if BP was operating so poorly and dangerously, HE had time to fix it. He didn't. He was busy shoving healthcare down our throats. That small, <$1M piece of equipment that we heard wasn't bought that could've prevented this......that they say BUSH/CHENEY allowed to go unpurchased? Um....if it was that crucial, Obama had 1.5 years to see that it was done. He didn't. He was busy bowing to dictators and shoving healthcare down our throats.

    So, either Obama did or didn't allow the MMS/Oil Co. sex/alcohol parties to keep going on under his watch, or he didn't. If he did, he's at fault. If he didn't, well, look what happened.

    Obama took a calculated move. He decided to play Big Daddy and sit back and tell the children (BP) to clean the mess on their own. The imagery of the "boot on the neck" is what he wanted. What he got was the imagery of a helpless Obama on a beach, picking at the sand, as it is announced over a month into the disaster that it won't be fixed until August, at the earliest.

    What could've been done? Well, Bobby Jindal and many small gov'ts along the coast wanted to build large sand dunes to block the oil from coming on-shore. Their proposal was not approved by Obama for weeks. When it finally same so, Obama Admin approved ONLY 2% OF THE SAND DUNES to be built. You know, can't let a Republican governor, and God forbid a bunch of small governments and private citizens, to come up with an idea to fight this thing. That would deny him the "boot in the neck" imagery he wants.

    Not to mention.........the worse this thing gets, in Obama's mind, the better chance he can use it to his advantage to pass Climate Change legislation to redistribute American wealth amongst the world. Too bad for him, that calculation is turning disasterous. This miscalculation, combined with the healthcare mugging of America, has finalized Obama's presidency to a pitiful 1 term and he will possibly not even be the Democratic nominee in 2012.
     
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    How crafty you "conservatives" can be.....trashing Obama (who...I'm assuming...has no background in the oil-business), to deflect from YOUR Super-Capitali$t/profit$-at-ANY-co$t agenda.

    :rolleyes:

    Why isn't John Boner begging the oil-boys (from the last Admin) to get more-involved, to....you know....show everyone Pro-Oil-prophets ALWAYS have all-the-answers????? ​
     
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    Obama has mishandled this from the start, but it isn't exactly an everyday disaster. So I have cut him slack, but when he gets up there and after a year and a half of being in office, still is blaming the last administration after the inspectors gave BP the clear a month ago, after BP made Obama their number one recieptiant of campaign money. He is now looking like a typicial politician that snowed most the voters in 2008.
     
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    So the conservative consensus is that the oil industry is not regulated enough? That the government controls on it aren't stringent enough?

    So conservatives will join others, such as the environmentalists, to push to impose much more draconian regulation, restriction, oversight, and control on the oil industry?

    I'm guessing NO...
     
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    The laxity of the MMS is effectively WHAT CONSERVATIVES HAVE WANTED for business in general...

    ...less regulation, less oversight, less government interference, more freedom for businesses.

    The MMS's negligence was an improper exercise in what conservatives have always wanted to be the legal and proper involvement of the government, i.e., leave the corporations alone!

    It's really comical, in a sad way.
     
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    Where do you get this crap from? DO the voices in your head make you write it?
    We arent discussing any regulations. What regulation would have prevented this event? None,short of total ban on deepwater drilling.
    We are discussing Obama's response to this crisis. Which sucks. If he has been thinking about it every day, as he claimed, and things are this bad despite his paying attention, what does that say about his leadership abilities?
    He could not have prevented the initial blow out. But he could have done things to mitigate the effects. And he didnt.
     
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    Obviously you didn't read the OP:

    HE oversaw the Mineral Management Services for 1.5 years, so if BP was operating so poorly and dangerously, HE had time to fix it.

    Comon, at least learn to read before you pretend you know something.
     
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    whether or not he had time to fix MMS is immaterial. he certainly should have stepped in and thrown the govt's resources at the problem long before 5 weeks went by.

    when the exxon valdez disaster happened, bush1 federalized the response after 14 days.

    obama fucked up.
     
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    It's simply a lie that no federal resources were deployed for the first 5 weeks.
     

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