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So if the Palestinians quietly let the settlers steal their stuff there would be no conflict?The Palestinians were at home minding their own business when they were attacked by settler colonialists. That attack continues to today.They are now not under attack at all. If they stopped all the violence there would be no more. The Israelis are not instigating the violence.
Occupation, check points and foreign military presence is violence.
Nope. They are a response to violence.
The Palestinians were at home minding their own business when the indigenous peoples returned and asked to be included in the process of self determination on their ancestral and historic territory.
If the Palestinians had continued to mind their own business instead of denying others their rights there would be no conflict.
I guess there is an element of truth to that.
Sure, let the Palestinians go back to their homes.Sderot was built on top of the Palestinian village of Najd whose residents were forced into Gaza. Are you saying that those Palestinians have no right to force those people out of their village?Blockading Gaza is an act of WarThey are now not under attack at all. If they stopped all the violence there would be no more. The Israelis are not instigating the violence.
Blockading Gaza is a response to acts of war (including war crimes of indiscriminate attacks).
I'm saying that the conflict continues to exist because the presence of Jews on Jewish ancestral and historic territory is seen as a violation and a reason to kill Jews.
The Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque are built on top of the Temple Mount. Are you saying the Jewish people have no right to force the Arab Muslims out of our holy site?
The solution is not to force people (and certainly not by murdering them) back to the way things were at a certain point in time. (Which point in time is best anyway?). But to find a fair and reasonable solution which respects both peoples.
Sure, let the Palestinians go back to their homes.Sderot was built on top of the Palestinian village of Najd whose residents were forced into Gaza. Are you saying that those Palestinians have no right to force those people out of their village?Blockading Gaza is an act of WarThey are now not under attack at all. If they stopped all the violence there would be no more. The Israelis are not instigating the violence.
Blockading Gaza is a response to acts of war (including war crimes of indiscriminate attacks).
I'm saying that the conflict continues to exist because the presence of Jews on Jewish ancestral and historic territory is seen as a violation and a reason to kill Jews.
The Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque are built on top of the Temple Mount. Are you saying the Jewish people have no right to force the Arab Muslims out of our holy site?
The solution is not to force people (and certainly not by murdering them) back to the way things were at a certain point in time. (Which point in time is best anyway?). But to find a fair and reasonable solution which respects both peoples.
It is the only just thing to do.
For example: The village of Najd predates the OttomanSo if the Palestinians quietly let the settlers steal their stuff there would be no conflict?The Palestinians were at home minding their own business when they were attacked by settler colonialists. That attack continues to today.Occupation, check points and foreign military presence is violence.
Nope. They are a response to violence.
The Palestinians were at home minding their own business when the indigenous peoples returned and asked to be included in the process of self determination on their ancestral and historic territory.
If the Palestinians had continued to mind their own business instead of denying others their rights there would be no conflict.
I guess there is an element of truth to that.
It's not their stuff.
Should the Jewish people quietly permit the Arab Muslims to steal Jewish ancestral historical land. Including our sacred holy place?
The argument works both ways. Let's find a solution which respects both people.
Yup. The 'freedom fighters' sending their tiny children in to fight their battle.
What children jerk off? Lying propagandist piece of crap.
"These are the Palestinian children killed by Israel in 2016"
These are the Palestinian children killed by Israel in 2016
"These are the Palestinian children killed by Israel in 2016"
These are the Palestinian children killed by Israel in 2016
What a fucking piece of shit liar! You have just claimed less than a week ago that you do not EVER use electronicintifada.net as a source.
The Palestinians have been under attack for a hundred years. Where have you been?Biggest pile of crap post of the day!Excluding the Palestinians right to defend themselves, of course.
The Palestinians have a right to defend themselves. But no one is attacking the Palestinians.
Prove it by responding to it then.
No. They haven't been "under attack". There is a competing claim by an indigenous peoples. Not the same thing.
You failed to read the introduction to this thread. It was written by fanger. All you have done, you self-important overblown blowhard, is hijack the fuck out of it and now consider it yours."These are the Palestinian children killed by Israel in 2016"
These are the Palestinian children killed by Israel in 2016
What a fucking piece of shit liar! You have just claimed less than a week ago that you do not EVER use electronicintifada.net as a source.
You failed to read the introduction to this thread. This thread will include stories and links to all the propaganda sites on the Palestinian side that mimic the Hasbara sites your friend 60s Fan uses on the opposite (equivalent) thread he started.
To wit:
"Well, I have given up. With that a-hole 60s Fan posting Zionists propaganda exclusively, it's time to fight fire with fire. However, I will limit it to this thread and will continue on relying on factual source documentation in all other threads regardless of the links to Hasbara sites that the Zionist propagandist use in support of their lies."
You failed to read the introduction to this thread. It was written by fanger. All you have done, you self-important overblown blowhard, is hijack the fuck out of it and now consider it yours."These are the Palestinian children killed by Israel in 2016"
These are the Palestinian children killed by Israel in 2016
What a fucking piece of shit liar! You have just claimed less than a week ago that you do not EVER use electronicintifada.net as a source.
You failed to read the introduction to this thread. This thread will include stories and links to all the propaganda sites on the Palestinian side that mimic the Hasbara sites your friend 60s Fan uses on the opposite (equivalent) thread he started.
To wit:
"Well, I have given up. With that a-hole 60s Fan posting Zionists propaganda exclusively, it's time to fight fire with fire. However, I will limit it to this thread and will continue on relying on factual source documentation in all other threads regardless of the links to Hasbara sites that the Zionist propagandist use in support of their lies."
What a fool!
Is Israel an ‘apartheid’ state? This U.N. report says yes.
"..... Israel has established an apartheid regime aimed at dominating the Palestinians. Their recommendations include reviving the U.N. Center Against Apartheid, which closed in 1994 after South Africa ended its apartheid practices. The report also urges support for a boycott, divestment and a sanctions campaign against Israel.
Dividing the Palestinian people into four distinct groups, the authors write that although they are treated differently by Israel, they all face “the racial oppression that results from the apartheid regime.”
The first group identified is the roughly 1.7 million Palestinians who are full citizens of Israel, but who, the report found, live under “martial law” and are subjected to oppression because they are not Jewish.
The second group highlighted in the report is the estimated 300,000 Palestinians who live in East Jerusalem, a mostly Arab area. The report said these Palestinians “experience discrimination in access to education, health care, employment, residency and building rights.”
The third group includes the 4.6 million Palestinians who live in the West Bank and Gaza. In the West Bank, the Jewish residents known as settlers are governed by Israeli civil law, while Palestinians live under military rule."
Is Israel an ‘apartheid’ state? This U.N. report says yes.
Always read the article if you are going to make a claim, otherwise you tend to make yourself look silly for not paying attention to detail
Titled, “Israeli Practices Toward the Palestinian People and the Question of Apartheid,” the report was written by Richard Falk, a former U.N. special rapporteur to the Palestinian territories known for harsh criticisms of both Israel and the United States, and Virginia Tilley, professor of political science at Southern Illinois University.
Always read the article if you are going to make a claim, otherwise you tend to make yourself look silly for not paying attention to detail
Titled, “Israeli Practices Toward the Palestinian People and the Question of Apartheid,” the report was written by Richard Falk, a former U.N. special rapporteur to the Palestinian territories known for harsh criticisms of both Israel and the United States, and Virginia Tilley, professor of political science at Southern Illinois University.
Interestingly, the source is the Washington Post and the article is quoted verbatim.
So Hollow Hollie, Who wrote the Report?Always read the article if you are going to make a claim, otherwise you tend to make yourself look silly for not paying attention to detail
Titled, “Israeli Practices Toward the Palestinian People and the Question of Apartheid,” the report was written by Richard Falk, a former U.N. special rapporteur to the Palestinian territories known for harsh criticisms of both Israel and the United States, and Virginia Tilley, professor of political science at Southern Illinois University.
Interestingly, the source is the Washington Post and the article is quoted verbatim.
Interestingly, you, like an identifiable cabal of cut and pasters don't even know what you're cutting and pasting.
Dig that holeAh, a name caller.So Hollow Hollie, Who wrote the Report?Always read the article if you are going to make a claim, otherwise you tend to make yourself look silly for not paying attention to detail
Titled, “Israeli Practices Toward the Palestinian People and the Question of Apartheid,” the report was written by Richard Falk, a former U.N. special rapporteur to the Palestinian territories known for harsh criticisms of both Israel and the United States, and Virginia Tilley, professor of political science at Southern Illinois University.
Interestingly, the source is the Washington Post and the article is quoted verbatim.
Interestingly, you, like an identifiable cabal of cut and pasters don't even know what you're cutting and pasting.
