CDZ What The 2nd does NOT Say!

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    Just a little interesting twist here. We all know that MANY liberal members of the FEDERAL government and liberals say YOU can't have guns. What if I told you the FEDERAL government is the one NOT protected by the 2nd?

    "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."


    Alright so there it is in full form so lets break it down...
    "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State".

    Now THAT gives the right to STATE Militias NOT a central OR federal government. Now lets go to the second part.

    "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

    That gives YOU the person the right to be armed and NO WHERE in in that statement does it give ANY central government OR agency OR political body the RIGHT to bear arms.

    Now to back that up yet some more try this...
    "July 26, 1908, United States of America" that was the year the FBI was founded.
    Google

    Only problem was that by law the FBI was NOT allowed to carry guns because of the 2nd!
    "Agents of the FBI were authorized to carry firearms after the passage of the June 1934 Crime Bill, which also included the 1934 National Firearms Act,"
    When did FBI agents start carrying guns

    So as PRIVATE citizens they could carry guns but NOT as a central government agency.
    The 2nd was NEVER designed NOR intended to protect central government OR a government agency. It was written SOLEY to protect the people FROM ANY central government Or agency!

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    Well regulated can mean MANY things BUT the regulations would NOT be given to the central government OR agency. It would BY LAW given to the states as also called out in other parts. Nice try, no cigar.
     
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    It says I can have a gun. Think about that Darkfury!
     
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    And you can as a person or a member of a militia. It does NOT say you can have one as a political party member or central government member or an agency member.
     
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    I love this conversation.

    Obviously our founding fathers knew they meant it to allow regular people to carry guns. It is how THEY enforced it.

    But what do the words of the 2nd mean if you translate it as a whole, not halves?

    Someone goofed there.
     
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    I would disagree as they were protecting two different groups.
     
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    A clear and concise point being necessary, one point five trains of thought it was.
     
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