vincubus
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you wish to claim those things to have been created by your god? fine.....then prove your allegation. without using the bible, but using stand alone, objective, universally recognized proof.
Im not claiming anything. Im pointing out the fundamental flaw in the reasoning behind the original post. It's circular reasoning. God is useless because we can do things on our own. We can do things on our own because God is useless.
As for proving anything, you need to tell me, what exactly is provable? There is practically nothing provable in this entire universe. Prove to me the sun will rise tomorrow? You can't. Sure chances are it's going to rise, but just because it's happened everyday in the last billion years doesnt mean it's going to happen tomorrow. It can't be proved. Almost nothing can be provide.
Now if you want to examine evidence, that's a completely different story. There is plenty of evidence for God. You may not find it credible, but that doesnt mean the evidence is not there. I've heard the whispers of the Holy Spirit. I've felt the power of God. My experience is evidence as much as any other witnesses testimony is evidence. You may not find the evidence credible. But it's evidence nonetheless. And that is the main problem. There is no universal standard for credibility. What's credible to one person isn't to another. Which is exactly why it's foolish to simply take someones word for it instead of thinking it out yourself and going to God to learn from Him. Unfortunately, few people actually put in the effort to do this.
You want evidence God created your brain? look at your brain. Look at the complexity behind it. look at you hand and the complex design it takes just to move your fingers back and forth. Look at all the internal regulatory systems of your body. All acting just right so you can survive and move and do things.
I understand you think yourself intelligent, wiser, and superior to those who believe. Seems to me though that there are alot of your premises you dont question. You learn by questioning premises. If you cant see your premises or recognize them, then you are very limited in what you can learn.
here is an example of circular reasoning.
as a child you hear ppl use the word "god". as you grow older, you come to understand roughly, what they mean by "god", and as a part of the dominant reality scheme, you come to accept its existence. then you find evidence of to "prove" god.
that is what you have done. yoiu have convinced yourself that "he" exists. it is interesting that only in churches that believe in speaking in tongues and being slain by the spirit does such things manifest. belief creates existence creates evidence.
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