What makes me a liberal?

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    I get asked that question a lot, what makes you a liberal? The answer I've come up with is this: I am a liberal because I choose to question. I am liberal because I don't believe every problem has a simple answer. I am liberal because I believe that people ought to have a fair shot at the American Dream. I am liberal because I believe that people should have the freedom to decide what to watch, what to read, what to listen to, and what to say. I am a liberal because I believe society has a vested interested in educating all children, and in making sure all children have access to basic health care. I am a liberal because I believe women should have the right to make their own medical decisions. I am a liberal because I support the rights of gay men and lesbians to be who they are without fear of reproach and repression. I am a liberal because I believe people should have freedom of and freedom from religion. I am a liberal because I believe that the best societies are made up of individuals who look out for each other.

    I am a liberal...and I'm damn proud of it.

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    Its good to stand up for what you believe in. Now as a liberal, you would also support freedom of ideology would you not. People are free to think. Therefore, since not every person in the world thinks alike, how could we achieve these dreams of yours?

    Everyone has a differing opinion on how we should run the world. Some are right and some are wrong. I feel your dream is a good one but it is not a practical one. Unless we all become one giant cult of man and think with one mind, we will never achieve these fantasies.
     
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    If you belive this your not a liberal.
     
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    Probably you were dropped on your head. You were asking what made you a liberal, right?
     
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    Originally posted by acludem
    I am liberal because I believe that people ought to have a fair shot at the American Dream. I am liberal because I believe that people should have the freedom to decide what to watch, what to read, what to listen to, and what to say.
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    :wtf: :poke: :cuckoo:

    I believe that and I'm a liberal.
     
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    Liberalism is about curtailing freedoms on the grounds that free societies are unfair because in free societies people excel at different rates, and people excelling at different rates is evil. Liberalism is primarily based on envy, and power acquisition through fear mongering, misrepresentation, and historical revisionism.

    Swoosh! nuttin' but net!
     
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    Where did you pull that definition from? the middle hole of your ass?
     
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    The middle hole? I don't have a three holed ass, as you apparently do. Can you crap out of all of them? Or are some of them vestigial and non functional?

    But seriously folks. That's my definition of liberalism as I have seen it in action in the world.
     
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    Neither of these things have anything to do with being a liberal. I question all the time. It is not IF you question that makes you a liberal. It is WHAT you question. As for solutions to problems my observation has been that liberals are so terrified of making the wrong decision that they would rather sit and talk about action then actual implement anything.
    I think you believe in handing to people on a silver platter. You the right to the PURSUIT of happines/American Dream. Opportunites are seized, not given.
    Funny, that's what conservatives beleive too.
    We know this from history to be incorrect. When government have tried to make people take care of each other (socialism) they fail. It is wrong to go through life depending on other people. it is far easier to depend on yourself.
     
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    Most conservatives think this, too, but we go about it a different way. Liberals think we should feed everybody by giving the jobless welfare, wheras conservatives see welfare as a crutch to pay the bill and buy the groceries in between jobs, while the larger solution to feeding the everybody is to get the jobless jobs. I support the rights of gay men and women, because they're people, too. I just don't think those rights include getting married to someone of the same gender, and I still believe practicing homosexuality is a sin. I believe in freedom of religion. However, I am of the belief that you can either give everyone freedom of or freedom from religion. If everyone is free to practice their own religion, some people will probably practice it around you. Respect them, practice what you want, and get used to it. I could make a few more points, but you get the idea.
     

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