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How many examples do you need? You started a thread with a facetious premise. You are not interested in learning what white privilege is. You simply want to argue its existence.
You are expecting people to spend time writing out examples for you.....only to have you shit on them with thoughtless denial.
Convince me that yiu are really of a mind to have the discussion and I'll drop a few examples on you.
So where you come to claim that Examples are PLENTIFUL! You, instead of taking the opportunity to offer so much as ONE of just such an example from the plentiful supply of such, you decide to further perpetuate the MYTH?
Huh... I wonder why a person would do such a thing? Where such a person is presumed to be reasonable and honest in the public discourse?
That doesn't make sense... . Help a brother out here and post up an example or concede that you have none, through your failure to do so.
You haven't been paying attention. I don't make empty gestures.
Please don't do this. you will get an honest argument out of me.
What they have done is to prove themselves incapable of honest discourse. Your query is just, your argument is sound, therefore, the Left's defense is inadequate.
Such is the nature of Socialist Myth.
If it were intellectually sound, then where one finds the Left they would find prosperity, happiness and fulfilled lives... and not the racked and decaying cultures witnessed where ever such has been set to seed.
White privilege - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
White privilege (or white skin privilege) is a term for societal privileges that benefit white people beyond what is commonly experienced by non-white people under the same social, political, or economic circumstances.[note 1] These privileges are unearned and are distributed based on values of the dominant group.[1] According to McIntosh and Lee, whites in a society considered culturally a part of the Western World enjoy advantages that non-whites do not experience.[1] This leads to the controversy over whether or not White people should be able to enjoy these privileges. The term denotes both obvious and less obvious passive advantages that white persons may not recognize they have, which distinguishes it from overt bias or prejudice.[2] These include cultural affirmations of one's own worth; presumed greater social status; and freedom to move, buy, work, play, and speak freely.[1] The effects can be seen in professional, educational, and personal contexts.[3] The concept of white privilege also implies the right to assume the universality of one's own experiences, marking others as different or exceptional while perceiving oneself as normal.[4][5]
Can you provide examples of White Privilege?
For what purpose do you need these examples?
Because without examples a theory is null. Evidently everyone wants to complain about white privilege but no one wants to prove it exists. Parish the thought.
So you are looking to disparage whatever examples are provided so you can somehow "prove" that white privilege doesn't exist?
If you want a serious debate then the onus is on you to prove that the cited definition provided above is not accurate and that white privilege does not exist.
I LOVE you're argument!!! I simply love it. It is akin to telling someone that they cannot prove that God doesn't exist. Indeed, you are telling me that White Privilege is a religion whereas we must atone for our sins without critically examining it.
Listen, this is how an argument works.
Claim: White privilege as defined exists because of A. B. C. .. .. ..
Counter claim: No, A is wrong because of D, B is wrong because of E, and C is wrong because of F.
Counter counter claim: You are wrong on DEF because of GHI.
You see how this works? Instead you want to claim it exists without the "unjust" burden of defending the claim.
perish
How many examples do you need? You started a thread with a facetious premise. You are not interested in learning what white privilege is. You simply want to argue its existence.
You are expecting people to spend time writing out examples for you.....only to have you shit on them with thoughtless denial.
Convince me that yiu are really of a mind to have the discussion and I'll drop a few examples on you.
So where you come to claim that Examples are PLENTIFUL! You, instead of taking the opportunity to offer so much as ONE of just such an example from the plentiful supply of such, you decide to further perpetuate the MYTH?
Huh... I wonder why a person would do such a thing? Where such a person is presumed to be reasonable and honest in the public discourse?
That doesn't make sense... . Help a brother out here and post up an example or concede that you have none, through your failure to do so.
You haven't been paying attention. I don't make empty gestures.
Please don't do this. you will get an honest argument out of me.
What they have done is to prove themselves incapable of honest discourse. Your query is just, your argument is sound, therefore, the Left's defense is inadequate.
Such is the nature of Socialist Myth.
If it were intellectually sound, then where one finds the Left they would find prosperity, happiness and fulfilled lives... and not the racked and decaying cultures witnessed where ever such has been set to seed.
I was amazed how I asked for examples and the standard response was "why?" Hell, one would have been fine. I just wanted to figure out for myself how far I can give credence to their argument and how far I could not. I'm trying to find my niche in this argument but they don't want to argue. its a foregone uncritically examined conclusion for them.
Can you provide examples of White Privilege?
For what purpose do you need these examples?
Because without examples a theory is null. Evidently everyone wants to complain about white privilege but no one wants to prove it exists. Parish the thought.
So you are looking to disparage whatever examples are provided so you can somehow "prove" that white privilege doesn't exist?
If you want a serious debate then the onus is on you to prove that the cited definition provided above is not accurate and that white privilege does not exist.
I LOVE you're argument!!! I simply love it. It is akin to telling someone that they cannot prove that God doesn't exist. Indeed, you are telling me that White Privilege is a religion whereas we must atone for our sins without critically examining it.
Listen, this is how an argument works.
Claim: White privilege as defined exists because of A. B. C. .. .. ..
Counter claim: No, A is wrong because of D, B is wrong because of E, and C is wrong because of F.
Counter counter claim: You are wrong on DEF because of GHI.
You see how this works? Instead you want to claim it exists without the "unjust" burden of defending the claim.
Thank you for admitting that you are not interested in a genuine debate on the subject.
Your OP is now an epic failure by your own hand!
perish
How many examples do you need? You started a thread with a facetious premise. You are not interested in learning what white privilege is. You simply want to argue its existence.
You are expecting people to spend time writing out examples for you.....only to have you shit on them with thoughtless denial.
Convince me that yiu are really of a mind to have the discussion and I'll drop a few examples on you.
So where you come to claim that Examples are PLENTIFUL! You, instead of taking the opportunity to offer so much as ONE of just such an example from the plentiful supply of such, you decide to further perpetuate the MYTH?
Huh... I wonder why a person would do such a thing? Where such a person is presumed to be reasonable and honest in the public discourse?
That doesn't make sense... . Help a brother out here and post up an example or concede that you have none, through your failure to do so.
You haven't been paying attention. I don't make empty gestures.
Please don't do this. you will get an honest argument out of me.
What they have done is to prove themselves incapable of honest discourse. Your query is just, your argument is sound, therefore, the Left's defense is inadequate.
Such is the nature of Socialist Myth.
If it were intellectually sound, then where one finds the Left they would find prosperity, happiness and fulfilled lives... and not the racked and decaying cultures witnessed where ever such has been set to seed.
I was amazed how I asked for examples and the standard response was "why?" Hell, one would have been fine. I just wanted to figure out for myself how far I can give credence to their argument and how far I could not. I'm trying to find my niche in this argument but they don't want to argue. its a foregone uncritically examined conclusion for them.
So where you come to claim that Examples are PLENTIFUL! You, instead of taking the opportunity to offer so much as ONE of just such an example from the plentiful supply of such, you decide to further perpetuate the MYTH?
Huh... I wonder why a person would do such a thing? Where such a person is presumed to be reasonable and honest in the public discourse?
That doesn't make sense... . Help a brother out here and post up an example or concede that you have none, through your failure to do so.
You haven't been paying attention. I don't make empty gestures.
Please don't do this. you will get an honest argument out of me.
What they have done is to prove themselves incapable of honest discourse. Your query is just, your argument is sound, therefore, the Left's defense is inadequate.
Such is the nature of Socialist Myth.
If it were intellectually sound, then where one finds the Left they would find prosperity, happiness and fulfilled lives... and not the racked and decaying cultures witnessed where ever such has been set to seed.
I was amazed how I asked for examples and the standard response was "why?" Hell, one would have been fine. I just wanted to figure out for myself how far I can give credence to their argument and how far I could not. I'm trying to find my niche in this argument but they don't want to argue. its a foregone uncritically examined conclusion for them.
I don't wish to argue.....you are correct.
I'd rather have a discussion. If what yiu said in the two previous posts stands...we will have one.
Let's see.
Can you provide examples of White Privilege?
One glaring example to anyone who is the child of a WWII veteran who grew up during the Great Depression is the fact that black veterans were denied GI Bill benefits.....especially those related to home loans.
This led to a disparity in home ownership between white and black veterans that directly impacted wealth building for poor and lower class American men throughout the postwar era.
The chance that a black person born in the 50's or 60's to a US army veteran would have a home to inherit in the 80's or 90's was considerably lower than that of white children of vets.
http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/44333/276173994.pdf
Can you provide examples of White Privilege?
How about this -- absolute man mountain of a black thug strong arms a little white guy half his size in a convenience store before going on to attack a police officer, gets shot in the process, and the media makes it into a case of some little "teenager" being killed just out of the blue or something.
The store clerk then has the privilege of hearing all the sympathy for the thug who mugged him for the next several weeks.
One glaring example to anyone who is the child of a WWII veteran who grew up during the Great Depression is the fact that black veterans were denied GI Bill benefits.....especially those related to home loans.
This led to a disparity in home ownership between white and black veterans that directly impacted wealth building for poor and lower class American men throughout the postwar era.
The chance that a black person born in the 50's or 60's to a US army veteran would have a home to inherit in the 80's or 90's was considerably lower than that of white children of vets.
http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/44333/276173994.pdf
One glaring example to anyone who is the child of a WWII veteran who grew up during the Great Depression is the fact that black veterans were denied GI Bill benefits.....especially those related to home loans.
This led to a disparity in home ownership between white and black veterans that directly impacted wealth building for poor and lower class American men throughout the postwar era.
The chance that a black person born in the 50's or 60's to a US army veteran would have a home to inherit in the 80's or 90's was considerably lower than that of white children of vets.
http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/44333/276173994.pdf
That is patently false. And demonstrably so... from the existence of home loans being provided to qualified black applicants throughout the US, post WW2 and the existence of whites being denied home loans because they were disqualified from such, due to their lack of credit worthiness.
You merely assign the denial to race, where such suits you. Actuarial lending principle provides, through the law of large numbers, for the institution to gauge credit worthiness... and where that science determines that large numbers of individuals who live in X region have DEMONSTRATED that they do not dependably service long term debt, those individuals are otherwise disqualified from being accepted for such.
This is mathematics, not racism.
One glaring example to anyone who is the child of a WWII veteran who grew up during the Great Depression is the fact that black veterans were denied GI Bill benefits.....especially those related to home loans.
This led to a disparity in home ownership between white and black veterans that directly impacted wealth building for poor and lower class American men throughout the postwar era.
The chance that a black person born in the 50's or 60's to a US army veteran would have a home to inherit in the 80's or 90's was considerably lower than that of white children of vets.
http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/44333/276173994.pdf
That is patently false. And demonstrably so... from the existence of home loans being provided to qualified black applicants throughout the US, post WW2 and the existence of whites being denied home loans because they were disqualified from such, due to their lack of credit worthiness.
You merely assign the denial to race, where such suits you. Actuarial lending principle provides, through the law of large numbers, for the institution to gauge credit worthiness... and where that science determines that large numbers of individuals who live in X region have DEMONSTRATED that they do not dependably service long term debt, those individuals are otherwise disqualified from being accepted for such.
This is mathematics, not racism.
Where did you read this?
For what purpose do you need these examples?
Because without examples a theory is null. Evidently everyone wants to complain about white privilege but no one wants to prove it exists. Parish the thought.
So you are looking to disparage whatever examples are provided so you can somehow "prove" that white privilege doesn't exist?
If you want a serious debate then the onus is on you to prove that the cited definition provided above is not accurate and that white privilege does not exist.
I LOVE you're argument!!! I simply love it. It is akin to telling someone that they cannot prove that God doesn't exist. Indeed, you are telling me that White Privilege is a religion whereas we must atone for our sins without critically examining it.
Listen, this is how an argument works.
Claim: White privilege as defined exists because of A. B. C. .. .. ..
Counter claim: No, A is wrong because of D, B is wrong because of E, and C is wrong because of F.
Counter counter claim: You are wrong on DEF because of GHI.
You see how this works? Instead you want to claim it exists without the "unjust" burden of defending the claim.
Thank you for admitting that you are not interested in a genuine debate on the subject.
Your OP is now an epic failure by your own hand!
Ok, I see you have your smiley there laughing so as to grant you moral support. Or did you want me to know your were really laughing? If so, then what does that add to the debate. No, emoticons are there to make the poster feel better about himself. I love them because they say so much about the person who posted them.
In any case, you made a claim above. However, once again (and no surprise) you didn't give examples to support such a claim.
Seriously, why is it so hard to come up with an example of "White Privilege?" Why run away from an argument? That is why you're here; right? How could you claim and defend that I'm not here for an honest debate when you wont debate? Indeed, there is only one way to find out. You're wasting all of your energy arguing that I don't won't an honest debate while at the same time avoiding the debate. You are doing exactly what you accuse me of. Now how about you put your energy into granting examples instead of copying and pasting from Wikipedia.
One glaring example to anyone who is the child of a WWII veteran who grew up during the Great Depression is the fact that black veterans were denied GI Bill benefits.....especially those related to home loans.
This led to a disparity in home ownership between white and black veterans that directly impacted wealth building for poor and lower class American men throughout the postwar era.
The chance that a black person born in the 50's or 60's to a US army veteran would have a home to inherit in the 80's or 90's was considerably lower than that of white children of vets.
http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/44333/276173994.pdf
That is patently false. And demonstrably so... from the existence of home loans being provided to qualified black applicants throughout the US, post WW2 and the existence of whites being denied home loans because they were disqualified from such, due to their lack of credit worthiness.
You merely assign the denial to race, where such suits you. Actuarial lending principle provides, through the law of large numbers, for the institution to gauge credit worthiness... and where that science determines that large numbers of individuals who live in X region have DEMONSTRATED that they do not dependably service long term debt, those individuals are otherwise disqualified from being accepted for such.
This is mathematics, not racism.
Where did you read this?
Same place you did. I am the author.
One glaring example to anyone who is the child of a WWII veteran who grew up during the Great Depression is the fact that black veterans were denied GI Bill benefits.....especially those related to home loans.
This led to a disparity in home ownership between white and black veterans that directly impacted wealth building for poor and lower class American men throughout the postwar era.
The chance that a black person born in the 50's or 60's to a US army veteran would have a home to inherit in the 80's or 90's was considerably lower than that of white children of vets.
http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/44333/276173994.pdf
I agree with that example. Indeed, it was codified into law and upheld by the Jim Crow system. Please excuse me for not clarifying that I wanted modern examples. With that said, your comparison of the 50's and 60's to the 80's or 90's does hold some relevance to this argument. But not for the reasons you think its relevant to the argument. Now, by stating "relevant to the argument" I am not saying true or false, but merely relevant. If you can tie that in to today then I think it much more relevant to what I aim to find out. I want to see white privilege in the context of todays setting. Is that fair enough?
One glaring example to anyone who is the child of a WWII veteran who grew up during the Great Depression is the fact that black veterans were denied GI Bill benefits.....especially those related to home loans.
This led to a disparity in home ownership between white and black veterans that directly impacted wealth building for poor and lower class American men throughout the postwar era.
The chance that a black person born in the 50's or 60's to a US army veteran would have a home to inherit in the 80's or 90's was considerably lower than that of white children of vets.
http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/44333/276173994.pdf
That is patently false. And demonstrably so... from the existence of home loans being provided to qualified black applicants throughout the US, post WW2 and the existence of whites being denied home loans because they were disqualified from such, due to their lack of credit worthiness.
You merely assign the denial to race, where such suits you. Actuarial lending principle provides, through the law of large numbers, for the institution to gauge credit worthiness... and where that science determines that large numbers of individuals who live in X region have DEMONSTRATED that they do not dependably service long term debt, those individuals are otherwise disqualified from being accepted for such.
This is mathematics, not racism.
Where did you read this?
Same place you did. I am the author.
Yes, but I want to see a study or scholarly article that argues your claim. Of course, as you and I both know, anyone who would write such an article would be banned from the academic community. So they are often hard to find. Nevertheless, you had to base your claim on something. I want to see that something and add it to my goodie bag. You may be correct, but I doubt you can find anything that agrees with you.
One glaring example to anyone who is the child of a WWII veteran who grew up during the Great Depression is the fact that black veterans were denied GI Bill benefits.....especially those related to home loans.
This led to a disparity in home ownership between white and black veterans that directly impacted wealth building for poor and lower class American men throughout the postwar era.
The chance that a black person born in the 50's or 60's to a US army veteran would have a home to inherit in the 80's or 90's was considerably lower than that of white children of vets.
Thus......the white experience moved to the suburbs.....where property taxes built excellent public schools for white kids to attend. The black kids didn't experience this shift.
http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/44333/276173994.pdf
