What is immoral about eugenics?

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    It is a “given” in discussions of genetic engineering that no sensible person can be in favour of eugenics. The main reason for this presumption is that so much horror, misery, and mayhem have been carried out in the name of eugenics in the 20th century that no person with any moral sense could think otherwise.1–3 In fact, the abysmal history of murder and sterilisation undertaken in the name of race hygiene and the “improvement” of the human species again and again in this century is so overpowering that the risk of reoccurrence, sliding down what has proved time and time again to be an extremely slick, slippery slope, does seem enough to bring all ethical argument in favour of eugenics to an end.
    However, before dismissing any favourable stance towards eugenics it is important to distinguish what has happened in the past under the banner of eugenics and what might happen in the future. It is important to distinguish between genetic changes undertaken with respect to improving a group or population and genetic change that takes a single individual as its focus.
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    The horrible abuses committed in the name of eugenics through coercive policies imposed by governments have obscured the fact that eugenic goals can be the subject of choice as well as coercion
    In the rush to map the human genome and reap the benefits of new genetic knowledge it has become commonplace to argue that eugenic goals will play no part in how new genetic knowledge is used
    The moral case against voluntary choices to advance eugenic goals by individuals or couples has not been persuasively made
    Given the power and authority granted to parents to seek to improve or better their children by environmental interventions, at least some forms of genetic selection or alteration seem equally ethically defensible if they are undertaken freely and do not disempower or disadvantage children





    http://www.bmj.com/content/319/7220/1284.full#otherarticles
     
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    They forgot to mention it in the bible.
     
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    Because we wouldn't have people like Corndog to make fun of.
     
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    Oh, really? What about God's ordering genocidal campaigns of extermination to make way for the Chosen People?
     
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    I guess you're right, I think God must have also ordered the Jews to inbreed until the end of time. :D
     
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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMvjA8Db5ZY]YouTube - Modern Eugenics Exposed - CFL light bulbs are poisoning us[/ame]
     
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    Read the Book. He ordered the campaigns to fullfill his promises to those people that sinned against Him and people. He sent a "weak" army against hardened warriors to demonstrate that with his help even the most inferior army could "end them".

    Also: OT, the sins of the father were passed to the children. If the Lord promised to "end them", He did it in His time. When Joshua was His general, there were angels that walked beside Joshua in battle. The angels were not happy to "kill" the others, but that was there assignment, and they did it well.

    The Canaanites were cursed by the Lord for "stealing" land (they had been given part of Africa as Canaan was Ham's son), they stayed near "Palestine". In the NT, Yeshua blesses a Canaanite for her faith, demonstrating, the Lord is willing to forgive, based on faith and repentance.

    The problem with genetic manipulation: there is no way to control it. Once it is "okay" to do little things to improve health and life, the wackos want to come, and mix species and worse. You can say it will help all you want, but historically, these things end, badly. It gives the "scientist" authority to manipulate "humans" at which point they become "experiments" that can be destoyed (start over). Once "humans" become "experiments" there is no way to assure they will be treated "humanely. Abuses will follow.
     
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    Progressives throughout history, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, etc. have been practitioners of Eugenics
     
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    Well, he did reduce humanity to four couples after the flood.... you can figure the rest out for yourself.
     
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    You seem to confuse fantasy with science
     

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