Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature currently requires accessing the site using the built-in Safari browser.
Rabbi is a true internet hero. Mocking the looks of others behind a computer. Unless he looks like Harry Reid, he probably does have no room to talk.
That is so weird, I have a few feminist friends, and they for sure are not ugly.
Her'es Andrea Dworkin. Yeah. I got to have that!
Man...That ruined my lunch!! 'Feminist' is a misnomer because they are women who shun their own femininity in order to be more masculine. They think somehow it gives them more power when actually it has caused them immeasurable pain. Another miserable failed product of the mental disorder called liberalism.
That's the right wing talking point, I'll give you that.Yep...hence my comment way back on the first page that it is a term used to bash women that "conservatives" disagree with.Who cares what the "liberal ladies" do or don't like?
By all means, chanel - you say you consider yourself a feminist.
Therefore, you are. No one gets to tell you what a feminist is or isn't, and no PAC owns the term.
It's really pretty sad that women let themselves get jerked around by assholes like this.
Feminists made jokes of themselves as their generation aged. Younger females thought they were nuts, but the term was still around and took on a jokey meaning. Conservatives did not invent the word. If you find it insulting, look into it's history.
I consider myself a "feminist". I believe in equal pay for equal work; I am opposed to human trafficking and the sex trade; I deplore domestic violence and deadbeat dads and believe there should be harsher penalties; I am against discrimination when it comes to pregnancy and childbirth; and I fully support raising our daughters to be leaders or homemakers - whatever they choose to do.
NOW would reject my application on the spot if they saw my cute elephant jewelry.
Women used to know how to make a 'nest' and pick a good provider before having children. With the advent of feminism and the denigrating of 'stay-at-home' moms, both men and women are experiencing undue stresses.
I have often wondered how some women can go through 9-months of carrying a kid, go through the pain of birth THEN, blithely drop the kid off in daycare and toodle off to work.
I was a stay-at-home mom until my kids went to school and I consider myself a feminist.
Imagine that!
I know you don't.
I was responding to Modbert's comment that we should not insult someone's looks. The left does it reflexively.
Then on the right, I guess there's just me.
More grouping with absolutely no basis. Who is this "The left"?
You're kidding, right?
Are you saying there is no political group or body of thought than can be described as leftist?
For the sake of this discussion, (which questions like yours are causing me to tire of quickly) I will identify as the left anyone who self-desribes as a feminist, or anyone opposed to conservative females. There is no shortage of examples of how conservative females are routinely insulted sexually or for their physical appearance.
Can you find any examples ouside of this thread where conservatives made fun of a liberal female's appearance? (Or must I define conservative first?)
I was a stay-at-home mom until my kids went to school and I consider myself a feminist.
Imagine that!
More grouping with absolutely no basis. Who is this "The left"?
You're kidding, right?
Are you saying there is no political group or body of thought than can be described as leftist?
For the sake of this discussion, (which questions like yours are causing me to tire of quickly) I will identify as the left anyone who self-desribes as a feminist, or anyone opposed to conservative females. There is no shortage of examples of how conservative females are routinely insulted sexually or for their physical appearance.
Can you find any examples ouside of this thread where conservatives made fun of a liberal female's appearance? (Or must I define conservative first?)
I'd like to see some examples please.
As for insulting "liberal" women, however, all you need to do is go to one of the other message boards that isn't well monitored to see random postings that include insulting, disgusting photoshopped pictures of Michelle Obama, many of them pornographic.
That's the right wing talking point, I'll give you that.Yep...hence my comment way back on the first page that it is a term used to bash women that "conservatives" disagree with.
It's really pretty sad that women let themselves get jerked around by assholes like this.
Feminists made jokes of themselves as their generation aged. Younger females thought they were nuts, but the term was still around and took on a jokey meaning. Conservatives did not invent the word. If you find it insulting, look into it's history.
You're kidding, right?
Are you saying there is no political group or body of thought than can be described as leftist?
For the sake of this discussion, (which questions like yours are causing me to tire of quickly) I will identify as the left anyone who self-desribes as a feminist, or anyone opposed to conservative females. There is no shortage of examples of how conservative females are routinely insulted sexually or for their physical appearance.
Can you find any examples ouside of this thread where conservatives made fun of a liberal female's appearance? (Or must I define conservative first?)
I'd like to see some examples please.
As for insulting "liberal" women, however, all you need to do is go to one of the other message boards that isn't well monitored to see random postings that include insulting, disgusting photoshopped pictures of Michelle Obama, many of them pornographic.
Scroll to post #67, please.
I'd like to see some examples please.
As for insulting "liberal" women, however, all you need to do is go to one of the other message boards that isn't well monitored to see random postings that include insulting, disgusting photoshopped pictures of Michelle Obama, many of them pornographic.
Scroll to post #67, please.
Well if you want to compare pundit to pundit, that's a whole different story. Ever listen to Laura Ingraham? Ever check out her weblog? She's a real piece of work.
Are prominent conservative pundits really in a catfight over body fat? - By Dahlia Lithwick - Slate Magazine
That's the right wing talking point, I'll give you that.Feminists made jokes of themselves as their generation aged. Younger females thought they were nuts, but the term was still around and took on a jokey meaning. Conservatives did not invent the word. If you find it insulting, look into it's history.
No, it's not a "talking point." It's my own personal observation over the years. Am I wrong?
That's the right wing talking point, I'll give you that.
No, it's not a "talking point." It's my own personal observation over the years. Am I wrong?
Yes.
I am a feminist. I wear makeup and shave my legs and don the occasional cute shoes for a cute date. What's a joke about wanting to be both a woman and treated as an equal, able to stand on my own two feet in or out of heels, own my own life and make my own choices....whatever they may be?
It's a different sort of feminism now thanks in large part to the older generation. But don't think it's some kind of joke simply because it has a subtler, more feminine kind of strength.
The movement did start out radical. Betty Friedan's original call to arms compared housework to animal life. In The Feminine Mystique she wrote, “[V]acuuming the living room floor -- with or without makeup -- is not work that takes enough thought or energy to challenge any woman's full capacity. ... .”
Thereafter, however, liberal feminists abandoned the judgmental starting point of the movement in favor of offering women “choices.” The choice talk spilled over from people trying to avoid saying “abortion,” and it provided an irresistible solution to feminists trying to duck the mommy wars. A woman could work, stay home, have 10 children or one, marry or stay single. It all counted as “feminist” as long as she chose it. (So dominant has the concept of choice become that when Charlotte, with a push from her insufferable first husband, quits her job, the writers at Sex and the City have her screaming, “I choose my choice! I choose my choice!”
Here's the feminist moral analysis that choice avoided: The family -- with its repetitious, socially invisible, physical tasks -- is a necessary part of life, but it allows fewer opportunities for full human flourishing than public spheres like the market or the government. This less-flourishing sphere is not the natural or moral responsibility only of women. Therefore, assigning it to women is unjust. Women assigning it to themselves is equally unjust. To paraphrase, as Mark Twain said, “A man who chooses not to read is just as ignorant as a man who cannot read.”
That's the right wing talking point, I'll give you that.
No, it's not a "talking point." It's my own personal observation over the years. Am I wrong?
Yes.
I am a feminist. I wear makeup and shave my legs and don the occasional cute shoes for a cute date. What's a joke about wanting to be both a woman and treated as an equal, able to stand on my own two feet in or out of heels, own my own life and make my own choices....whatever they may be?
It's a different sort of feminism now thanks in large part to the older generation. But don't think it's some kind of joke simply because it has a subtler, more feminine kind of strength.
No, it's not a "talking point." It's my own personal observation over the years. Am I wrong?
Yes.
I am a feminist. I wear makeup and shave my legs and don the occasional cute shoes for a cute date. What's a joke about wanting to be both a woman and treated as an equal, able to stand on my own two feet in or out of heels, own my own life and make my own choices....whatever they may be?
It's a different sort of feminism now thanks in large part to the older generation. But don't think it's some kind of joke simply because it has a subtler, more feminine kind of strength.
There is no joke there. And no one in their right mind would try to keep a woman from being able to stand on her own and make her own choices.
I won't deny there was a time when women were second class citizens, and I don't espouse a return to those days.
My objection to the feminists of the 70s was their obvious disdain for the traditional, going well beyond a demand for independence and equal opportunity. They compared marriage to prostitution. They considered homemaking unfit for anyone with half a brain. They compared giving birth to shitting out a pumpkin. (Maybe it is.)
If you want to salute them, go ahead. I believe they damaged more than they improved. You keep Betty and Gloria and Bella, I'll take Ann Coulter and Laura Ingraham and Phyllis Schlafly.
Yes.
I am a feminist. I wear makeup and shave my legs and don the occasional cute shoes for a cute date. What's a joke about wanting to be both a woman and treated as an equal, able to stand on my own two feet in or out of heels, own my own life and make my own choices....whatever they may be?
It's a different sort of feminism now thanks in large part to the older generation. But don't think it's some kind of joke simply because it has a subtler, more feminine kind of strength.
There is no joke there. And no one in their right mind would try to keep a woman from being able to stand on her own and make her own choices.
I won't deny there was a time when women were second class citizens, and I don't espouse a return to those days.
My objection to the feminists of the 70s was their obvious disdain for the traditional, going well beyond a demand for independence and equal opportunity. They compared marriage to prostitution. They considered homemaking unfit for anyone with half a brain. They compared giving birth to shitting out a pumpkin. (Maybe it is.)
If you want to salute them, go ahead. I believe they damaged more than they improved. You keep Betty and Gloria and Bella, I'll take Ann Coulter and Laura Ingraham and Phyllis Schlafly.
I don't personally agree with their radicalism, but they were the necessary equal and opposite reaction.
And without them, and much more importantly the many, many more less radical activists who followed some but not all of their ideas, feminism wouldn't be what it is today - which is exactly what you and I both seem to agree on.
Judging any movement by its most extreme is dipping a toe across the line into stereotyping, LD. Yeah there's a hint of truth to any stereotype but it's like only watching a five minute scene from a two-hour movie. You miss the whole story.
I love how the cons is this thread are bitching about liberal women attacking con women, while they call feminists dykes or ugly. It is quite hilarious.
