What is a feminist?

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    Conservatives try to claim the term feminist as their own | The Daily Caller - Breaking News, Opinion, Research, and Entertainment

    Is feminism simply about abortion or about empowering women in the workplace and politics?
     
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    Somebody who is half as right as a HUMANIST?

     
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    It's not an issue of being a Democrat or Republican - although most appear to be involved in the Democrat party.

    A "feminist" is, in my opinion, a (generally speaking) woman with revolutionist, militant, leftist, hostile, with personal issues of all kinds, and who does not necessarily have the best interests of ALL women at heart. They have a political agenda behind all their actions and are interested only in women of the same persuasion as they. In other words ... they are women who go through life with a cob up their ass.

    They appear to have little emotional feelings for anyone other than themselves - and that includes husbands and children who are sometimes "necessary inconveniences". They transform themselves into "men" to "prove" they are better than men. Ever notice how they primarily dress in their little black suits ("uniforms") and stomp around rather than walk?

    They fail to see that women are very smart in their own right and have made tremendous contributions to humanity throughout history and they've done it without chopping the balls off men and otherwise alienating both men and women alike. There is nothing feminine about any of them.
     
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    No, I think the world for those gals is either militant bull dykes or clueless angry hetersexual woman who cannot understand why every man they ever got involved with ran like hell after getting to know them.

    I actually know some honest feminists who aren't sexist asshats.

    They're refreshingly honest people.
     
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    A feminist is a supporter of femminism.

    Femminism describes political, cultural, and economic movements aimed at establishing greater rights, legal protection for women, and women's liberation.

    I believe it is not a left/right thing but an Up/Down thing ;)
     
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    Wow. This post is full of stereotypes.
     
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    Great topic!
    The term as up 'til recently referred to, as you state, the wholly-owned subsidiary of the Democrat Party.

    1."Academic feminists who received tenure, promotion, and funding, tended to be pro-abortion, pro-pornography (anti-censorship), pro-prostitution (pro-sex workers), pro-surrogacy, and anti-colonialist, anti-imperialist, and anti-American…proponents of simplistic gender-neutrality (women and men are exactly the same) or essentialist: men and women are completely different, and women are better. They are loyal to their careers and their cliques, not to the truth. [In their writing, they] have pretended that brilliance and originality can best be conveyed in a secret, Mandarin language that absolutely no one, including themselves, can possibly understand…and this obfuscation of language has been employed to hide a considerable lack of brilliance and originality and to avoid the consequences of making oneself clear.

    a. This rigid intolerance as exercised by the movement, unfortunately, has driven away women who choose motherhood over high-powered careers, women who are American patriots, many religious women, women who do not identify themselves primarily in terms of sexual preference, and women who oppose abortion, pornography and prostitution. The outside-the-mainstream feminists hold abolitionist views about pornography, prostitution, trafficking, and sexual slavery; viewing freedom as a universal value; in short, are conservative.

    b. Mainstream Western feminism is politically-correct left-dominated liberalism, postcolonial, anti-imperialist feminism, which has denounced America’s vision of freedom and democracy for the women of Moslem countries. One must be reflexively opposed to religion. One must not be opposed to pornography or prostitution, as it offends many gays, and threatens some views of sexual privacy and access. The left claims the usual laundry list of offenses attributable to the right, including : forcing people into gender roles, obstructing the use of alternative energy, increasing the fear of immigrants and aliens, denying adequate health care coverage, promoting a military policy that denies equal rights for sexual minorities.
    While there is nothing wrong with raising concerns, but where is the indication that the problems are a) due to the right, or b) not equally the result of policies of both parties.?"

    While the above may not be direct quotes, the concepts and premises are from
    Phyllis Chesler, "The Death of Feminism"

    2. The kind of feminism of the last 4 or 5 decades is the narrowing, totalitarian kind that imposes directions and limits choices. Logical as it seems that women should be prepared for events such as divorce and widowhood, marriage and family may reduce opportunities for outside work or education. But the solution, according to Simone de Beauvoir in an interview with Betty Friedan is “No woman should be authorized to stay at home and raise her children. Society should be totally different. Women should not have that choice precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one.” “Sex, Society, and the Female Dilemma,” Saturday Review, June 14, 1975, p. 18.
    a. Like all totalitarian movements, the goal is not to give more freedom, but to take away choice.
    b.Radical Feminists refuse to recognize the accomplishments of conservative women. Jeane Kirkpatrick, Margaret Thatcher, Sarah Palin, none could be recognized or honored. Apparently there are men, women, and people who might otherwise have qualified as women but have chosen to be Republicans instead.
     
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    Let's face it.

    The kind of woman who shoves her feminism credential down your throat is probably a just a pain in everybody's ass sexist.

    But there are thoughly decent women out there who ARE feminists who focus on the problems associated with being a woman and THEY are a boon to this society.

    I remember when women didn't make equal pay for equal work.

    I remember when there were good girls and bad girls.

    I remember when women seldom had the same opportunities as men.

    Feminism and REAL feminists did much to deal with that unfair reality.

    But like every other civil rights movement there are stupid asshats who glom onto social movements as just a way of them rationizing their own bitterness.

    Manhaters who claim they are motivated by the politics of feminism are generally just clueless idiots.
     
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    "Feminist" is a word that "conservative" women and men use to bash women they disagree with.
     
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    what a crock of crapola pc....sheesh

    feminists did not ever support prostitution, nor did they ever support pornography...

    The original feminists were the ones protesting AGAINST SUCH.....they were the ones who thought women were being used and exploited for sex....they were even against beauty pageants for same reason....another rewrite of history on your part....sheesh pc!?!

    AND Granny, you too are way off base with your whole post imo as well???
     

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