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Nice try Abe.. I think we've discussed the diff between the BTK "re-analyzed" fairy tale and the NOAA data which I prefer.. Even with the NOAA data being closer to empirical conditions, the HISTORICAL portion of those data sets are too sparse to be believed.
It was such a nice try it succeeded completely. Your data are measurements and it isn't the least bit surprising how closely they match the data-constrained model output BTK produced with ORAS4, one of the most advanced ocean climate models in existence. The ocean is getting significantly warmer and the the water below 2000m is getting warmer faster than the water above. That's shown by the DATA.
And what was done to cover the globe EVEN WITH the NOAA (or Leviticus) data is just an ancient slide-rule type of "re-analysis" to come up with brain-dead GLOBAL numbers.
Care to back up that nonsense claim? "An ancient slide-rule type of "re-analysis""? From Distinctive climate signals in reanalysis of global ocean heat content - Balmaseda - 2013 - Geophysical Research Letters - Wiley Online Library
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2 The Ocean Reanalysis
[6] ORAS4 has been produced by combining, every 10 days, the output of an ocean model forced by atmospheric reanalysis fluxes and quality controlled ocean observations. These consist of temperature and salinity (T/S) profiles from the Hadley Centre's EN3 data collection [Ingleby and Huddleston, 2007], which include expendable bathythermographs (T only, with depth corrections from Table 1 of Wijffels et al. [2008]), conductivity-temperature-depth sensors (T/S), TAO/TRITON/PIRATA/RAMA moorings (T/S), Argo profilers (T/S), and autonomous pinniped bathythermograph (or elephant seals, T/S). Altimeter-derived along track sea level anomalies from AVISO are also assimilated. Gridded maps of SST from NOAA are used to adjust the heat fluxes via strong relaxation, and altimeter global mean sea-levels are used to constrain the global average of the fresh-water flux. The ocean model horizontal resolution is approximately 1°, refined meridionally down to 1/3° at the equator. There are 42 vertical levels with separations varying smoothly from 10 m at the surface to 300 m at the bottom, with partial cell topography.
[7] A model bias correction [BMW13] is used to reduce potential spurious variability resulting from changes in the observing system. The bias correction first guess—a seasonal cycle of 3-D model error—is estimated from the data-rich Argo period, and applied to ORAS4 from the beginning of the record. This is updated as the analysis progresses via an adaptive scheme (see BMW13 for details; see also Figure S3 of the auxiliary material). The five ensemble members of ORAS4 sample plausible uncertainties in the wind forcing, observation coverage, and the deep ocean. The uncertainty is probably underestimated in ORAS4, because the uncertainty in observations and their quality control [Lyman et al., 2010] is not sampled. Quality improvements in ORAS4 relative to earlier ocean reanalyses stem from the use of improved atmospheric surface fluxes, improved data assimilation, and more comprehensive quality-control of the observation data set, with important corrections to the ocean observations.
[8] The methods section S01 in the auxiliary material provides more specific information on the model, surface forcing, observation data sets, bias correction and ensemble generation. A detailed description and evaluation of ORAS4 is given in BMW13, and a discussion of the sensitivity of the reanalysis to several aspects not included in the ensemble generation.
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I'd like to see you do that on a slide-rule hot shot. Hell, I'll even give you a good calculator.
BTW --- Have you ever seen this ocean warming plotted on a MAP???? You really should look into that Abraham.. Kinda tells you how dicey it is to try to do this on a GLOBAL scale for the early period before 2000.
Yes, I have seen it plotted on a map.
If you've ever been out to sea for a day or 2 searching for Tuna or Salmon --- you'd understand how dispersed these thermal layers and differences really are.. The FISH know how spotty this thermal biz really is !!!!!
The fish I chase are made from titanium and HY-120 and understand thermal profiles better than you. Did you not catch what I do for a living?
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