what does the right want now?

[The Infidel]

TM Would you like to carry on our visitor message discussion via private message or do you want to continue to allow everyone to see your epic fail?

 

[g5000]

So you are all for corporations spending whatever they want to buy candidates

So you are all for unions spending whatever they want to buy candidates

it is legal for unions to give.

That is the law.

It is NOT legal for Corporations to give.

That is the law.

No. That is not the law. Both unions and corporations are forbidden from direct contributions to candidates.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Name a lie I have spread?

I havent lied about anything

that makes you the liar

You claimed that for 8 years under Bush the Republicans had complete control of both Houses of Congress. When in fact the Democrats controlled the Senate almost 4 of those years, they controlled the House 2 of those years and the other 4 the Republicans never had 60 Senators. Which you claimed was needed for the Democrats to have complete control in 2009 and 2010.

 

[Truthmatters]

So you are all for unions spending whatever they want to buy candidates

it is legal for unions to give.

That is the law.

It is NOT legal for Corporations to give.

That is the law.

No. That is not the law. Both unions and corporations are forbidden from direct contributions to candidates.

Really I did think Unions could give.

Ill go look for clairification

 

[Ernie S.]

it is legal for unions to give.

That is the law.

It is NOT legal for Corporations to give.

That is the law.

No. That is not the law. Both unions and corporations are forbidden from direct contributions to candidates.

Really I did think Unions could give.

Ill go look for clairification

My God! Is she actually checking facts? Mark this day on your calender, folks!

 

[Truthmatters]

Citizens' Guide


your right they cant give either

 

[Truthmatters]

Now why does the right want the Corporations to give but not unions?

 

[Baruch Menachem]

the whole point of the argument is that free speech is for everyone, not just the ones you like or agree with.

If I proposed we gag all little old ladies with fluffy little dogs just because one of them is annoying, crotchety guys with big black dogs would have reason to fear for their liberty as well.

Free speech isn't just for folks you like. You have to let everyone in on it, or no one really has it.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Now why does the right want the Corporations to give but not unions?

Provide evidence that Republicans have stated or tried to LIMIT Unions WHILE at the same time allowing Corporations free rein.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Now why does the right want the Corporations to give but not unions?

Why does the left want Unions to give but not Corporations?

 

[g5000]

Now why does the right want the Corporations to give but not unions?

I do not know that to be true. I think the right wants anyone to be able to contribute directly to candidates. At least that is how I feel.

I might not like labor unions donating to a Democrat, but I don't believe in forbidding it.


I do think reporting requirements might need to stay in place so we know exactly who is supporting a candidate.

However, I believe it is up to every voter to inform themselves on the issues and the candidates. I do not believe it is the government's job to protect you from your own willful ignorance.

Especially since the rules are being written by politicians who will do everything they can to ensure they get to keep their offices.

Look at the incumbent re-election rate for the past 40 years. If a politician decides to run for re-election, his chances are about 98 percent he will succeed. And this is after countless court decisions and campaign finance reform legislation during that period.

I watched McCain-Feingold from beginning to end. From creation to signing. Did you know the original bill had a provision which prevented incumbents from using their franking privilege during an election year?

That vanished in the blink of an eye.


If people are voting for a politician because of what they saw in a TV ad, there is no amount of legislation which will unmake an idiot.

 

[freedombecki]

So you are all for corporations spending whatever they want to buy candidates

So you are all for unions spending whatever they want to buy candidates

it is legal for unions to give.

That is the law.

It is NOT legal for Corporations to give.

That is the law.

This thread is about changing the laws so corporations can give.

Why do you have to try and change the subject?

The Unions and Corporations are treated as anyone according to the Bipartisan campaign finance reform act of 2002, madam.

Now, go stand in the corner and shed no more crocodile tears over this, okay?

 

[g5000]

The Unions and Corporations are treated as anyone according to the Bipartisan campaign finance reform act of 2002, madam.

Now, go stand in the corner and shed no more crocodile tears over this, okay?

TM has acknowledged the error.

 

[Ernie S.]

the whole point of the argument is that free speech is for everyone, not just the ones you like or agree with.

If I proposed we gag all little old ladies with fluffy little dogs just because one of them is annoying, crotchety guys with big black dogs would have reason to fear for their liberty as well.

Free speech isn't just for folks you like. You have to let everyone in on it, or no one really has it.

Must spread...

 

[freedombecki]

The Unions and Corporations are treated as anyone according to the Bipartisan campaign finance reform act of 2002, madam.

Now, go stand in the corner and shed no more crocodile tears over this, okay?

TM has acknowledged the error.

Fair enough.

 

[AmericanFirst]

bull shit

You have been lecturing people about their inability to understand the document in the OP. And yet you have twice been told the defendents in the case are corporate donors who were indicted for donating to Hillary Clinton and yet you continue to be completely blind to this fact.

Look at the very first page of your fricking link. Look at the names of the Defendants-Appellees who are referred to throughout the document.

Then read this: Galen Capital Execs Charged with Campaign Improprieties - Mergers & Acquisitions

In a case that has been in the works for years, a federal grand jury in Alexandria, Va. formally charged Galen Capital Group's William P. Danielczyk, Jr. and Eugene R. Biagi for skirting campaign finance laws in fundraising for former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. The pair, according to allegations from the Justice Department, reimbursed $186,600 in campaign contributions -- a process known as 'bundling' around the Beltway.

Now you have been told THREE times.






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C'mon TM... you can do it... just admit your mistake... you don't have to admit your ignorant hyper-partisanship.. we already know that as fact

She won't admit it, but everyone knows how stupid she is, she proves it all the time.

 

[Yurt]

Now why does the right want the Corporations to give but not unions?

why do you want unions to give and not corporations?

 

[eots]

what does the right want now?

are you talking about the right wing of the socialist OLIGARCHY that has usurped control of the country ? because what they want is virtually the same as the left with slightly different facades to suite your personal taste....what the real right wants is FREEDOM...the same thing you should want...

 

[Rozman]

no idiuvidual can match corporate money.

it will mean that our government will be owned by corporations and do their bidding.


Is that what the founders intended?

It's rumored that the Obama will have around a billion dollars to play with.
Are you gonna try and tell us he got that from little old ladies cashing in their
loose change!

 

[bigrebnc1775]

no idiuvidual can match corporate money.

it will mean that our government will be owned by corporations and do their bidding.


Is that what the founders intended?

It's rumored that the Obama will have around a billion dollars to play with.
Are you gonna try and tell us he got that from little old ladies cashing in their
loose change!

I doubt she will answer.