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[EdwardBaiamonte]

Our income tax does not fund this corporate entity that is USA.INC.........

dear conspiracy nutjob, you said income tax does not fund social programs. Did you change your mind??????????????????????

 

[Dale Smith]

Our income tax does not fund this corporate entity that is USA.INC.........

dear conspiracy nutjob, you said income tax does not fund social programs. Did you change your mind??????????????????????

Your federal income tax doesn't fund diddly squat for any social program.....PERIOD...zilch, nada....el zippo....how much plainer can I make that to you? Are you just fucking dense? Stop drinking the fluoridated water in such mass quantities.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Your federal income tax doesn't fund diddly squat for any social program...

if so why be so afraid to tell us where the money comes from?? What do you learn from your fear??

 

[Dale Smith]

Your federal income tax doesn't fund diddly squat for any social program...

if so why be so afraid to tell us where the money comes from?? What do you learn from your fear??

The other taxes we pay and the fact that your beloved "gubermint" borrows a fiat currency from credit created from thin air by the shyster bankers at the Fed which creates deficits ....Good God but are ever fucking CLUELESS...I bet you still believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny. You and I are collateral on the debt, ya stupid fuck.....so are our children.....every time a child is squeezed out, they create a bond via the birth certificate...look it up and prove me wrong. We pay interest on extended credit that only exists on a computer screen. 97 percent of the "money" that is in existence is just numbers. Our labor has always been what has moved this fiat currency backed by nothing tangible......

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The other taxes we pay ..

dear are you going to cut the BS and tell us what the income tax pays for if not social programs??????????

 

[ScienceRocks]

The other taxes we pay ..

dear are you going to cut the BS and tell us what the income tax pays for if not social programs??????????

Infrastructure, science, r&d investment, police, safetynet, and education. Now go climb back up your tree you monkey!

 

[ScienceRocks]

I don't know of any wealthy people who decided to stop trying to make more money because they thought the tax rates were too high. You do realize if that were the case, then we would have been sunk back in the 50's when the top rate was 90%. Of course, you also don't have a clue that nobody actually pays high tax rates, because there are so many ways around paying them. The fact is that most of the wealthy pay less than average middle class Americans, but you buffoons keep going back to the well crying that they pay too much. Regardless of the top rate, the wealthy have never paid anywhere close to the top rate at any time this past century. The sad thing is that you should know this.

STFU...you don't even have a clue on how the federal income tax works or where it goes......here's a hint....it doesn't go towards paying for social programs or making your life better...bet me and lose on this one, little fella.....

OMG, you are a tinfoiler! LMAO! Does the money go into the Illuminati pockets and then to a secret vault? LMAO!

Dale was so embarrassed he never came back to defend his position

Actually, I don't live on this board like some of you do. It is the holidays and thus I had family in town. The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 was the same year as the Federal Income Tax law...coincidence? Not hardly. Did you know that the IRS is actually a Puerto Rican Trust, privately owned and is a collection arm of the International Monetary Fund? They are the same bankers that own every central bank (including USA.INC), the Global Bank and Bank For International Settlements. Did you know that America is actually a corporation and all states, every city and almost every town and burg is a corporation that you can look up on Dun and Bradstreet.Not only is the United States a corporation, but the “Judicial Branch of US Govt” is also a Delaware Corporation (Delaware SoS file number: 3383789), listed in Dun & Bradstreet: “The following is the DUNS number for JUDICIAL BRANCH OF US GOV: DUNS number: 956858625”, as well. The “Judicial Branch of US Govt” (corporation) includes: “U.S. GOV’T LAW COURT ADMIN SUPREME & U.S. DISTRICT, APPELLATE, VETERANS PROBATE, BANKRUPTCY, STATE(S) COURTS, INC.” So our courts from the Supreme Court down to state courts are corporate “policy” (as in police) courts. When you go into a court and you see the gold fringe on the flag, you are entering an Admiralty court and unless you understand Black's Law dictionary, you can't possibly defend yourself because "persons" under Black's Law dictionary has never different meaning than what you think it is. I have invested a lot of time and effort learning how things really work....unlike most of you that get your information from the corporate controlled media that only lets you know what they want you to know.

Dale was so embarrassed he never came back to defend his position that tax revenue does not fund social programs.

So you think people should just die on the side of the street? What a heartless person you're.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

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So you think people should just die on the side of the street?.

any evidence or are you being just plain stupid and liberal again??

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The other taxes we pay ..

dear are you going to cut the BS and tell us what the income tax pays for if not social programs??????????

Infrastructure, science, r&d investment, police, safetynet, and education. Now go climb back up your tree you monkey!

dear are you going to cut the BS and tell us what the income tax pays for if not social programs?????????

 

[Dale Smith]

The other taxes we pay ..

dear are you going to cut the BS and tell us what the income tax pays for if not social programs??????????

I have been, if you were actually listening instead of trying to "flame". Our income tax goes towards the interest owed to the Federal Reserve banking oligarchs that control our fiat currency. There are allegedly 13 families that own shares in the Fed bank but only eight have been confirmed... four of which reside in the U.S like Goldman Sachs, Rockefellers, Lehmans and Kuhn Loebs of New York, the Rothschilds of Paris and London, the Warburgs of Hamburg, Germany, the Lazards of Paris and the Israel Moses Seifs of Rome. By law, the Fed is only suppose to keep six percent after expenses but since it has never been fully audited in its 102 years of existence, we have no idea what those expenses are that allows them to return less than 10 percent of what the IRS (A Puerto Rican Trust and collection arm of the IMF) collects and returns to the Treasury. It is by far the cleverest form of slavery ever invented. All through the history of this country, these foreign bankers and their agents within the United States (like the Rockefellers, Morgans, Schiffs , Harrimans, Duponts, etc, etc) have always wanted to get their hands on our monetary system. The War of 1812 was fought over the fact that the 20 year charter of the first Rothschild central bank was not going to be renewed. President Andrew Jackson defeated the bankers in spite of the fact that they tried to kill him twice. Abraham Lincoln was murdered over the greenback instead of borrowing from these foreign bastards to fund the Civil War. One of the reasons that Kennedy was murdered was because he had 4.3 billion dollars in silver backed Treasury notes printed and put into circulation which was a direct attack against the central bankers. We are indentured debt slaves due to the Chapter 11 bankruptcy of 1933 along with the gold confiscation and we all became collateral on the debt incurred due to the orchestrated Crash of 1929 and the Great Depression that followed. Seven million Americans died of malnutrition and hunger just so these banking oligarchs could buy up unaffiliated banks and corporations that they coveted for pennies on the dollar when they pulled in the money supply and called in loans thus causing a run on the banks and crashing the market. Your birth certificate is printed on bond paper and has a CUSIP number on it and it used to borrow money against what you will pay in taxes, commerce produced and other government fees you will pay over your lifetime using actuarial tables. This just barely scratches the surface on what has been done to the sheeple.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Our income tax goes towards the interest owed to the Federal Reserve banking oligarchs that control our fiat currency..

dear conspiracy nutjob, do you mean interest on Federal debt or interest owed to Fed?? If to Fed what debt are you talking about?????????

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

. There are allegedly 13 families that own shares in the Fed bank but only eight have been confirmed... four of which reside in the U.S like Goldman Sachs, Rockefellers, Lehmans and Kuhn Loebs of New York, the Rothschilds of Paris and London, the Warburgs of Hamburg, Germany, the Lazards of Paris and the Israel Moses Seifs of Rome..

dear conspiracy nut case, does Janet Yellin know that these people own the Fed????

 

[Dale Smith]

. There are allegedly 13 families that own shares in the Fed bank but only eight have been confirmed... four of which reside in the U.S like Goldman Sachs, Rockefellers, Lehmans and Kuhn Loebs of New York, the Rothschilds of Paris and London, the Warburgs of Hamburg, Germany, the Lazards of Paris and the Israel Moses Seifs of Rome..

dear conspiracy nut case, does Janet Yellin know that these people own the Fed????

They appointed her...notice how she nearly soiled herself over a potential audit.....wake up, Dorothy...you are not in Kansas anymore.

 

[Dale Smith]

Our income tax goes towards the interest owed to the Federal Reserve banking oligarchs that control our fiat currency..

dear conspiracy nutjob, do you mean interest on Federal debt or interest owed to Fed?? If to Fed what debt are you talking about?????????

Interest owed to the foreign owned Fed bank...that is where your income tax goes towards.......getting it yet?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

. There are allegedly 13 families that own shares in the Fed bank but only eight have been confirmed... four of which reside in the U.S like Goldman Sachs, Rockefellers, Lehmans and Kuhn Loebs of New York, the Rothschilds of Paris and London, the Warburgs of Hamburg, Germany, the Lazards of Paris and the Israel Moses Seifs of Rome..

dear conspiracy nut case, does Janet Yellin know that these people own the Fed????

They appointed her...notice how she nearly soiled herself over a potential audit.....wake up, Dorothy...you are not in Kansas anymore.

dear conspiracy nut case, for 3rd time, does Janet Yellin know that these people own the Fed????

 

[Dale Smith]

. There are allegedly 13 families that own shares in the Fed bank but only eight have been confirmed... four of which reside in the U.S like Goldman Sachs, Rockefellers, Lehmans and Kuhn Loebs of New York, the Rothschilds of Paris and London, the Warburgs of Hamburg, Germany, the Lazards of Paris and the Israel Moses Seifs of Rome..

dear conspiracy nut case, does Janet Yellin know that these people own the Fed????

They appointed her...notice how she nearly soiled herself over a potential audit.....wake up, Dorothy...you are not in Kansas anymore.

dear conspiracy nut case, for 3rd time, does Janet Yellin know that these people own the Fed????

. There are allegedly 13 families that own shares in the Fed bank but only eight have been confirmed... four of which reside in the U.S like Goldman Sachs, Rockefellers, Lehmans and Kuhn Loebs of New York, the Rothschilds of Paris and London, the Warburgs of Hamburg, Germany, the Lazards of Paris and the Israel Moses Seifs of Rome..

dear conspiracy nut case, does Janet Yellin know that these people own the Fed????

They appointed her...notice how she nearly soiled herself over a potential audit.....wake up, Dorothy...you are not in Kansas anymore.

dear conspiracy nut case, for 3rd time, does Janet Yellin know that these people own the Fed????

Duh? Anyone that claims to be a financial "whiz kid" that gets acclaim knows exactly how the scam works. It wasn't that hard for me to figure out....sorry that you are struggling with it so much.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

. There are allegedly 13 families that own shares in the Fed bank but only eight have been confirmed... four of which reside in the U.S like Goldman Sachs, Rockefellers, Lehmans and Kuhn Loebs of New York, the Rothschilds of Paris and London, the Warburgs of Hamburg, Germany, the Lazards of Paris and the Israel Moses Seifs of Rome..

dear conspiracy nut case, does Janet Yellin know that these people own the Fed????

They appointed her...notice how she nearly soiled herself over a potential audit.....wake up, Dorothy...you are not in Kansas anymore.

dear conspiracy nut case, for 3rd time, does Janet Yellin know that these people own the Fed????

. There are allegedly 13 families that own shares in the Fed bank but only eight have been confirmed... four of which reside in the U.S like Goldman Sachs, Rockefellers, Lehmans and Kuhn Loebs of New York, the Rothschilds of Paris and London, the Warburgs of Hamburg, Germany, the Lazards of Paris and the Israel Moses Seifs of Rome..

dear conspiracy nut case, does Janet Yellin know that these people own the Fed????

They appointed her...notice how she nearly soiled herself over a potential audit.....wake up, Dorothy...you are not in Kansas anymore.

dear conspiracy nut case, for 3rd time, does Janet Yellin know that these people own the Fed????

Duh? Anyone that claims to be a financial "whiz kid" that gets acclaim knows exactly how the scam works. It wasn't that hard for me to figure out....sorry that you are struggling with it so much.

dear conspiracy nut case, for 4th time, does Janet Yellin know that these people own the Fed over which she presides????

 

[Dale Smith]

Dear dumb fuck, how much clearer can I make it? YES...SHE KNOWS!!!!!! SHE KNOWS ALL ABOUT WHAT A SCAM THE CENTRAL BANKING SYSTEM IS THAT CREATES CREDIT OUT OF THIN AIR AND THEN CHARGES INTEREST FOR IT AND SHE ALSO KNOWS WHAT A SCAM FRACTIONAL BANKING IS WHERE PROMISSORY NOTES ARE CREATED BUT TREATED AS REAL CURRENCY!!!!a Holy shit...talking to you is like trying to teach the bagpipes to a retard.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

YES...SHE KNOWS!!!!!!

so then Volker Greenspan Bernanke and Yellin (4 college professors) all knew and all lied to us about it and all will take the secret to their graves for some reason???

 

[sealybobo]

we need to get back to 70% of r&d funding coming from the government as we were in the 50's and 60s. We need to reform education and enforce the anti-trust laws.

Lastly, if you care so much about debt we need to end the wars, repeal the tax cuts and fix our healthcare system.

Repeal all the unfair "free trade " agreements that have allowed cheap goods into this country made with slave labor and put the tariff laws back in place and of course, do away with the foreign owned Federal Reserve central banking system that has been sucking this country dry like a parasite since 1913.

Yes, cutting ourselves off from the rest of the world make us number one for a long time to come. The rest of the world will be so hurt by our actions, lmao! What will happen is that the rest of the world will just pass us by. We are dealing with a world economy now. Those of you who don't want to acknowledge that will only try to doom us with your protectionist ideology.

So what you are saying is that the flood of cheap goods made by cheap/slave labor into this country with no tariff protection is a good thing? We do not need the "rest of the world" to sustain ourselves and we never have. The globalists have intentionally dismantled our manufacturing abilities in order to comply with draconian environmental laws that have given way to the loss of blue collar jobs that provided a living wage while the countries that don't have to comply are free to do "whatever". You are seriously clueless on how things work.....

There is a very big difference between negotiating good trade deals versus isolating ourselves from the rest of the world. Ask those who work at companies like Caterpillar if they would like to see us put large tariffs on everything coming into this country.

PEORIA, Ill., Dec. 4 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Caterpillar Inc.
(NYSE: CAT) today commended President Bush's decision to lift tariffs on
imported steel.
"With the tariffs in place over the past 19 months, the U.S. steel
industry has taken steps to consolidate and improve its competitiveness,"
Caterpillar Chairman and CEO Glen Barton said. "By making the decision to
lift the tariffs now, President Bush has removed the risk of more than
$2 billion in potential retaliatory actions by the European Union against U.S.
products."
As a leading U.S. exporter, Caterpillar has a long history of advocating
for expanded free trade. The company believes both the U.S. and global
economy will benefit from this decision.

Caterpillar Inc. Applauds President's Lifting of Steel Tariffs

You have a very different perspective which I see as being completely wrong. As for your assertion that I am clueless, it is obvious that you are not very bright, because you have no idea of the effects of causation. When someone does not agree with you, it does not always make them stupid. Sometimes it just means that you are stupid.

My company will be in trouble if trumps tariffs go through