We're in a permanent coup

[Deplorable Yankee]

We're in a permanent coup
Americans might soon wish they just waited to vote their way out of the Trump era
Oct 11 at 2:01

Matt Taibbi

I’ve lived through a few coups. They’re insane, random, and terrifying, like watching sports, except your political future depends on the score.

The kickoff begins when a key official decides to buck the executive. From that moment, government becomes a high-speed head-counting exercise. Who’s got the power plant, the airport, the police in the capital? How many department chiefs are answering their phones? Who’s writing tonight’s newscast?

When the KGB in 1991 tried to reassume control of the crumbling Soviet Union by placing Mikhail Gorbachev under arrest and attempting to seize Moscow, logistics ruled. Boris Yeltsin’s crew drove to the Russian White House in ordinary cars, beating KGB coup plotters who were trying to reach the seat of Russian government in armored vehicles. A key moment came when one of Yeltsin’s men, Alexander Rutskoi – who two years later would himself lead a coup against Yeltsin – prevailed upon a Major in a tank unit to defy KGB orders and turn on the “criminals.”

We have long been spared this madness in America. Our head-counting ceremony was Election Day. We did it once every four years.

That’s all over, in the Trump era.

On Thursday, news broke that two businessmen said to have “peddled supposedly explosive information about corruption involving Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden” were arrested at Dulles airport on “campaign finance violations.” The two figures are alleged to be bagmen bearing “dirt” on Democrats, solicited by Trump and his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani.

Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman will be asked to give depositions to impeachment investigators. They’re reportedly going to refuse. Their lawyer John Dowd also says they will “refuse to appear before House Committees investigating President Donald Trump.” Fruman and Parnas meanwhile claim they had real derogatory information about Biden and other politicians, but “the U.S. government had shown little interest in receiving it through official channels.”

For Americans not familiar with the language of the Third World, that’s two contrasting denials of political legitimacy.

The men who are the proxies for Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani in this story are asserting that “official channels” have been corrupted. The forces backing impeachment, meanwhile, are telling us those same defendants are obstructing a lawful impeachment inquiry.

This latest incident, set against the impeachment mania and the reportedly “expanding” Russiagate investigation of U.S. Attorney John Durham, accelerates our timeline to chaos. We are speeding toward a situation when someone in one of these camps refuses to obey a major decree, arrest order, or court decision, at which point Americans will get to experience the joys of their political futures being decided by phone calls to generals and police chiefs.


Not that I agree with everything but he's spot on some points
Long read finish @

We're in a permanent coup

 

[Mac1958]

This is what it looks like when a relatively sane society gets split up into two tribes. Each tribe decides its top priority is to "beat" the other tribe.

Honesty, standards rules and normal modes of behavior decay. The tribes divide themselves into different worlds, different realities. Each tribe declares the other tribe invalid. Each tribe enables the worst behaviors of its members by refusing to hold them accountable.

As much as each tribe wants to blame the other for everything, this is a choice we're making. A self-inflicted wound.
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[007]

This is what it looks like when a relatively sane society gets split up into two tribes. Each tribe decides its top priority is to "beat" the other tribe.

Honesty, standards rules and normal modes of behavior decay. The tribes divide themselves into different worlds, different realities. Each tribe declares the other tribe invalid. Each tribe enables the worst behaviors of its members by refusing to hold them accountable.

As much as each tribe wants to blame the other for everything, this is a choice we're making. A self-inflicted wound.
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No, this is what it looks like when ONE of the two tribes turns full blown CORRUPT in their relentless pursuit for power, and the other is nothing more than a reactionary entity perpetually on defense.

 

[Mac1958]

As much as each tribe wants to blame the other for everything...

No, this is what it looks like when ONE of the two tribes turns full blown CORRUPT, and the other is nothing more than a reactionary entity perpetually on defense.

And there ya go.
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[CarlinAnnArbor]

This is what it looks like when a relatively sane society gets split up into two tribes. Each tribe decides its top priority is to "beat" the other tribe.

Honesty, standards rules and normal modes of behavior decay. The tribes divide themselves into different worlds, different realities. Each tribe declares the other tribe invalid. Each tribe enables the worst behaviors of its members by refusing to hold them accountable.

As much as each tribe wants to blame the other for everything, this is a choice we're making. A self-inflicted wound.
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Still seeing both as morally equivalent. They are not. This is what we get when HALF the population is determined to kill off the AMERICAN system.

One side HAS to lose. It better be yours.

 

[Mac1958]

This is what it looks like when a relatively sane society gets split up into two tribes. Each tribe decides its top priority is to "beat" the other tribe.

Honesty, standards rules and normal modes of behavior decay. The tribes divide themselves into different worlds, different realities. Each tribe declares the other tribe invalid. Each tribe enables the worst behaviors of its members by refusing to hold them accountable.

As much as each tribe wants to blame the other for everything, this is a choice we're making. A self-inflicted wound.
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Still seeing both as morally equivalent. They are not. This is what we get when HALF the population is determined to kill off the AMERICAN system.

One side HAS to lose. It better be yours.

Never once have I said both are equivalent in any way.
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[initforme]

Both tribes are corrupt. That's the verdict most people agree with. Political apathy is growing and for an excellent reason.

 

[007]

As much as each tribe wants to blame the other for everything...

No, this is what it looks like when ONE of the two tribes turns full blown CORRUPT, and the other is nothing more than a reactionary entity perpetually on defense.

And there ya go.
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Glad I could clear that up for you.

There is no equating the democrats with the republicans. The democrats are filthy, lying, conniving, corrupt brawlers that will crawl through any gutter and use whatever means necessary to fight for power. The republicans don't. They merely react to what the democrats do. They're always on defense. Republicans don't appear to have any clue what being on offense means, and they certainly don't play as DIRTY as the democrats.

So to lump them together as though they're somehow alike is ludicrous.

 

[August West]

This is what it looks like when a relatively sane society gets split up into two tribes. Each tribe decides its top priority is to "beat" the other tribe.

Honesty, standards rules and normal modes of behavior decay. The tribes divide themselves into different worlds, different realities. Each tribe declares the other tribe invalid. Each tribe enables the worst behaviors of its members by refusing to hold them accountable.

As much as each tribe wants to blame the other for everything, this is a choice we're making. A self-inflicted wound.
.

No, this is what it looks like when ONE of the two tribes turns full blown CORRUPT in their relentless pursuit for power, and the other is nothing more than a reactionary entity perpetually on defense.

Corrupt? It`s Trump`s inner circle who are in jail and Michael Flynn awaits sentencing. You`re embarrassing yourself.

 

[initforme]

I ball them together. Millions of others do too. Both repulse alot of people.

 

[Mac1958]

As much as each tribe wants to blame the other for everything...

No, this is what it looks like when ONE of the two tribes turns full blown CORRUPT, and the other is nothing more than a reactionary entity perpetually on defense.

And there ya go.
.

Glad I could clear that up for you.

There is no equating the democrats with the republicans. The democrats are filthy, lying, conniving, corrupt brawlers that will crawl through any gutter and use whatever means necessary to fight for power. The republicans don't. They merely react to what the democrats do. Republicans don't appear to have any clue what being on offense means, and they certainly don't play as DIRTY as the democrats.

So to ball them together as though they're somehow alike is ludicrous.

I believe that you believe all of that.
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[Mac1958]

I ball them together. Millions of others do too. Both repulse alot of people.

And because they exist within their separate realities and refuse to hold their own accountable, or communicate normally with the other tribe, they don't see how similar they can be in their behaviors.
.

 

[007]

As much as each tribe wants to blame the other for everything...

No, this is what it looks like when ONE of the two tribes turns full blown CORRUPT, and the other is nothing more than a reactionary entity perpetually on defense.

And there ya go.
.

Glad I could clear that up for you.

There is no equating the democrats with the republicans. The democrats are filthy, lying, conniving, corrupt brawlers that will crawl through any gutter and use whatever means necessary to fight for power. The republicans don't. They merely react to what the democrats do. Republicans don't appear to have any clue what being on offense means, and they certainly don't play as DIRTY as the democrats.

So to ball them together as though they're somehow alike is ludicrous.

I believe that you believe all of that.
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You would too if you were willing to accept the truth.

 

[007]

I ball them together. Millions of others do too. Both repulse alot of people.

And because they exist within their separate realities and refuse to hold their own accountable, or communicate normally with the other tribe, they don't see how similar they can be in their behaviors.
.

The only thing the republicans and democrats have in common is they're both in politics, and obviously make a lot of money off that. But that's pretty much where the similarities end.

 

[007]

This is what it looks like when a relatively sane society gets split up into two tribes. Each tribe decides its top priority is to "beat" the other tribe.

Honesty, standards rules and normal modes of behavior decay. The tribes divide themselves into different worlds, different realities. Each tribe declares the other tribe invalid. Each tribe enables the worst behaviors of its members by refusing to hold them accountable.

As much as each tribe wants to blame the other for everything, this is a choice we're making. A self-inflicted wound.
.

No, this is what it looks like when ONE of the two tribes turns full blown CORRUPT in their relentless pursuit for power, and the other is nothing more than a reactionary entity perpetually on defense.

Corrupt? It`s Trump`s inner circle who are in jail and Michael Flynn awaits sentencing. You`re embarrassing yourself.

Flynn was SET UP, you IGNORANT dumbass.

 

[initforme]

Both are hypocrites. Both are consumed by the power and $

 

[Mac1958]

As much as each tribe wants to blame the other for everything...

No, this is what it looks like when ONE of the two tribes turns full blown CORRUPT, and the other is nothing more than a reactionary entity perpetually on defense.

And there ya go.
.

Glad I could clear that up for you.

There is no equating the democrats with the republicans. The democrats are filthy, lying, conniving, corrupt brawlers that will crawl through any gutter and use whatever means necessary to fight for power. The republicans don't. They merely react to what the democrats do. Republicans don't appear to have any clue what being on offense means, and they certainly don't play as DIRTY as the democrats.

So to ball them together as though they're somehow alike is ludicrous.

I believe that you believe all of that.
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You would too if you were willing to accept the truth.

I know. You and your tribe convince yourselves that you have a vice-like grip on The Truth.

One of the many behaviors shared by both tribes.
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[Mac1958]

I ball them together. Millions of others do too. Both repulse alot of people.

And because they exist within their separate realities and refuse to hold their own accountable, or communicate normally with the other tribe, they don't see how similar they can be in their behaviors.
.

The only thing the republicans and democrats have in common is they're both in politics, and obviously make a lot of money off that. But that's pretty much where the similarities end.

There are many similarities in behaviors, but neither tribe wants to admit it.
.

 

[007]

I ball them together. Millions of others do too. Both repulse alot of people.

And because they exist within their separate realities and refuse to hold their own accountable, or communicate normally with the other tribe, they don't see how similar they can be in their behaviors.
.

The only thing the republicans and democrats have in common is they're both in politics, and obviously make a lot of money off that. But that's pretty much where the similarities end.

There are many similarities in behaviors, but neither tribe wants to admit it.
.

There's far more differences than similarities.

 

[Mac1958]

I ball them together. Millions of others do too. Both repulse alot of people.

And because they exist within their separate realities and refuse to hold their own accountable, or communicate normally with the other tribe, they don't see how similar they can be in their behaviors.
.

The only thing the republicans and democrats have in common is they're both in politics, and obviously make a lot of money off that. But that's pretty much where the similarities end.

There are many similarities in behaviors, but neither tribe wants to admit it.
.

There's far more differences than similarities.

Sure, from your perspective. A left winger would say the same thing.
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