We're in a permanent coup

[Manonthestreet]

Dems are so secure in their corruption the new batch started breaking rules day one after last election.

 

[Billiejeens]

This is what it looks like when a relatively sane society gets split up into two tribes. Each tribe decides its top priority is to "beat" the other tribe.

Honesty, standards rules and normal modes of behavior decay. The tribes divide themselves into different worlds, different realities. Each tribe declares the other tribe invalid. Each tribe enables the worst behaviors of its members by refusing to hold them accountable.

As much as each tribe wants to blame the other for everything, this is a choice we're making. A self-inflicted wound.
.

Nope, that's not it.

 

[Billiejeens]

This is what it looks like when a relatively sane society gets split up into two tribes. Each tribe decides its top priority is to "beat" the other tribe.

Honesty, standards rules and normal modes of behavior decay. The tribes divide themselves into different worlds, different realities. Each tribe declares the other tribe invalid. Each tribe enables the worst behaviors of its members by refusing to hold them accountable.

As much as each tribe wants to blame the other for everything, this is a choice we're making. A self-inflicted wound.
.

No, this is what it looks like when ONE of the two tribes turns full blown CORRUPT in their relentless pursuit for power, and the other is nothing more than a reactionary entity perpetually on defense.

Corrupt? It`s Trump`s inner circle who are in jail and Michael Flynn awaits sentencing. You`re embarrassing yourself.

That's actually not true.

 

[Frannie]

We're in a permanent coup
Americans might soon wish they just waited to vote their way out of the Trump era
Oct 11 at 2:01

Matt Taibbi

I’ve lived through a few coups. They’re insane, random, and terrifying, like watching sports, except your political future depends on the score.

The kickoff begins when a key official decides to buck the executive. From that moment, government becomes a high-speed head-counting exercise. Who’s got the power plant, the airport, the police in the capital? How many department chiefs are answering their phones? Who’s writing tonight’s newscast?

When the KGB in 1991 tried to reassume control of the crumbling Soviet Union by placing Mikhail Gorbachev under arrest and attempting to seize Moscow, logistics ruled. Boris Yeltsin’s crew drove to the Russian White House in ordinary cars, beating KGB coup plotters who were trying to reach the seat of Russian government in armored vehicles. A key moment came when one of Yeltsin’s men, Alexander Rutskoi – who two years later would himself lead a coup against Yeltsin – prevailed upon a Major in a tank unit to defy KGB orders and turn on the “criminals.”

We have long been spared this madness in America. Our head-counting ceremony was Election Day. We did it once every four years.

That’s all over, in the Trump era.

On Thursday, news broke that two businessmen said to have “peddled supposedly explosive information about corruption involving Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden” were arrested at Dulles airport on “campaign finance violations.” The two figures are alleged to be bagmen bearing “dirt” on Democrats, solicited by Trump and his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani.

Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman will be asked to give depositions to impeachment investigators. They’re reportedly going to refuse. Their lawyer John Dowd also says they will “refuse to appear before House Committees investigating President Donald Trump.” Fruman and Parnas meanwhile claim they had real derogatory information about Biden and other politicians, but “the U.S. government had shown little interest in receiving it through official channels.”

For Americans not familiar with the language of the Third World, that’s two contrasting denials of political legitimacy.

The men who are the proxies for Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani in this story are asserting that “official channels” have been corrupted. The forces backing impeachment, meanwhile, are telling us those same defendants are obstructing a lawful impeachment inquiry.

This latest incident, set against the impeachment mania and the reportedly “expanding” Russiagate investigation of U.S. Attorney John Durham, accelerates our timeline to chaos. We are speeding toward a situation when someone in one of these camps refuses to obey a major decree, arrest order, or court decision, at which point Americans will get to experience the joys of their political futures being decided by phone calls to generals and police chiefs.


Not that I agree with everything but he's spot on some points
Long read finish @

We're in a permanent coup

Trumps voting base is increasing massively as each democrat masturbates in public. Trump has more of the Latino and African vote then any republican ever

 

[Billiejeens]

This is what it looks like when a relatively sane society gets split up into two tribes. Each tribe decides its top priority is to "beat" the other tribe.

Honesty, standards rules and normal modes of behavior decay. The tribes divide themselves into different worlds, different realities. Each tribe declares the other tribe invalid. Each tribe enables the worst behaviors of its members by refusing to hold them accountable.

As much as each tribe wants to blame the other for everything, this is a choice we're making. A self-inflicted wound.
.

No, this is what it looks like when ONE of the two tribes turns full blown CORRUPT in their relentless pursuit for power, and the other is nothing more than a reactionary entity perpetually on defense.

Corrupt? It`s Trump`s inner circle who are in jail and Michael Flynn awaits sentencing. You`re embarrassing yourself.

Flynn was SET UP, you IGNORANT dumbass.

Flynn is a fucking traitor.

Literally no one thinks that.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Meanwhile, one side cheers the prospects of people with pre-existing conditions being denied health coverage...

One side cheers the idea of cutting Social Security and Medicare while carving out special tax credits for golf course and private jet owners just because that side's cult leader owns those...

One side continuously tries to "otherize" anyone who disagrees with them as evil, the enemy, they openly opine about shooting them, the person who is the so-called leader of that side openly calls for violence to be done to opponents

But instead of dealing with that fact -- it just makes others feel better to just say "both sides do it"

Just a week ago -- one side decided to give Ed Meese a medal of freedom.....this is not a both sides do it situation because one side constantly has to explain why they continue to nominate people that they later hate whenever the next election cycle comes around

Another example of sheep thinking.

 

[Faun]

We're in a permanent coup
Americans might soon wish they just waited to vote their way out of the Trump era
Oct 11 at 2:01

Matt Taibbi

I’ve lived through a few coups. They’re insane, random, and terrifying, like watching sports, except your political future depends on the score.

The kickoff begins when a key official decides to buck the executive. From that moment, government becomes a high-speed head-counting exercise. Who’s got the power plant, the airport, the police in the capital? How many department chiefs are answering their phones? Who’s writing tonight’s newscast?

When the KGB in 1991 tried to reassume control of the crumbling Soviet Union by placing Mikhail Gorbachev under arrest and attempting to seize Moscow, logistics ruled. Boris Yeltsin’s crew drove to the Russian White House in ordinary cars, beating KGB coup plotters who were trying to reach the seat of Russian government in armored vehicles. A key moment came when one of Yeltsin’s men, Alexander Rutskoi – who two years later would himself lead a coup against Yeltsin – prevailed upon a Major in a tank unit to defy KGB orders and turn on the “criminals.”

We have long been spared this madness in America. Our head-counting ceremony was Election Day. We did it once every four years.

That’s all over, in the Trump era.

On Thursday, news broke that two businessmen said to have “peddled supposedly explosive information about corruption involving Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden” were arrested at Dulles airport on “campaign finance violations.” The two figures are alleged to be bagmen bearing “dirt” on Democrats, solicited by Trump and his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani.

Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman will be asked to give depositions to impeachment investigators. They’re reportedly going to refuse. Their lawyer John Dowd also says they will “refuse to appear before House Committees investigating President Donald Trump.” Fruman and Parnas meanwhile claim they had real derogatory information about Biden and other politicians, but “the U.S. government had shown little interest in receiving it through official channels.”

For Americans not familiar with the language of the Third World, that’s two contrasting denials of political legitimacy.

The men who are the proxies for Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani in this story are asserting that “official channels” have been corrupted. The forces backing impeachment, meanwhile, are telling us those same defendants are obstructing a lawful impeachment inquiry.

This latest incident, set against the impeachment mania and the reportedly “expanding” Russiagate investigation of U.S. Attorney John Durham, accelerates our timeline to chaos. We are speeding toward a situation when someone in one of these camps refuses to obey a major decree, arrest order, or court decision, at which point Americans will get to experience the joys of their political futures being decided by phone calls to generals and police chiefs.


Not that I agree with everything but he's spot on some points
Long read finish @

We're in a permanent coup

If Parnas and Fruman had any actual information on Hillary and Biden, why were they sharing that with Ukrainian prosecutors and Giuliani; and not with U.S. prosecutors?

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Meanwhile, one side cheers the prospects of people with pre-existing conditions being denied health coverage...

One side cheers the idea of cutting Social Security and Medicare while carving out special tax credits for golf course and private jet owners just because that side's cult leader owns those...

One side continuously tries to "otherize" anyone who disagrees with them as evil, the enemy, they openly opine about shooting them, the person who is the so-called leader of that side openly calls for violence to be done to opponents

But instead of dealing with that fact -- it just makes others feel better to just say "both sides do it"

Just a week ago -- one side decided to give Ed Meese a medal of freedom.....this is not a both sides do it situation because one side constantly has to explain why they continue to nominate people that they later hate whenever the next election cycle comes around

Another example of sheep thinking.

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Who is Ed Meese?? and why does he deserve the medal of freedom...

The same guy who lied to Congress about the secret sale of arms to Iran to fund the Contra rebels in Nicaragua...

The same guy who was against a suspect’s right to remain silent when being questioned by police...…

The same guy who resigned days before an independent investigation charged him with complicity in 2 different bribery schemes....

Until you can tell me why he deserves a medal of freedom without looking like a bitch ass sycophant, shut the fuck up

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

We're in a permanent coup
Americans might soon wish they just waited to vote their way out of the Trump era
Oct 11 at 2:01

Matt Taibbi

I’ve lived through a few coups. They’re insane, random, and terrifying, like watching sports, except your political future depends on the score.

The kickoff begins when a key official decides to buck the executive. From that moment, government becomes a high-speed head-counting exercise. Who’s got the power plant, the airport, the police in the capital? How many department chiefs are answering their phones? Who’s writing tonight’s newscast?

When the KGB in 1991 tried to reassume control of the crumbling Soviet Union by placing Mikhail Gorbachev under arrest and attempting to seize Moscow, logistics ruled. Boris Yeltsin’s crew drove to the Russian White House in ordinary cars, beating KGB coup plotters who were trying to reach the seat of Russian government in armored vehicles. A key moment came when one of Yeltsin’s men, Alexander Rutskoi – who two years later would himself lead a coup against Yeltsin – prevailed upon a Major in a tank unit to defy KGB orders and turn on the “criminals.”

We have long been spared this madness in America. Our head-counting ceremony was Election Day. We did it once every four years.

That’s all over, in the Trump era.

On Thursday, news broke that two businessmen said to have “peddled supposedly explosive information about corruption involving Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden” were arrested at Dulles airport on “campaign finance violations.” The two figures are alleged to be bagmen bearing “dirt” on Democrats, solicited by Trump and his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani.

Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman will be asked to give depositions to impeachment investigators. They’re reportedly going to refuse. Their lawyer John Dowd also says they will “refuse to appear before House Committees investigating President Donald Trump.” Fruman and Parnas meanwhile claim they had real derogatory information about Biden and other politicians, but “the U.S. government had shown little interest in receiving it through official channels.”

For Americans not familiar with the language of the Third World, that’s two contrasting denials of political legitimacy.

The men who are the proxies for Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani in this story are asserting that “official channels” have been corrupted. The forces backing impeachment, meanwhile, are telling us those same defendants are obstructing a lawful impeachment inquiry.

This latest incident, set against the impeachment mania and the reportedly “expanding” Russiagate investigation of U.S. Attorney John Durham, accelerates our timeline to chaos. We are speeding toward a situation when someone in one of these camps refuses to obey a major decree, arrest order, or court decision, at which point Americans will get to experience the joys of their political futures being decided by phone calls to generals and police chiefs.


Not that I agree with everything but he's spot on some points
Long read finish @

We're in a permanent coup

Trumps voting base is increasing massively as each democrat masturbates in public. Trump has more of the Latino and African vote then any republican ever

False...he does not have more of the Hispanic and black vote than any other republican ever

 

[Frannie]

We're in a permanent coup
Americans might soon wish they just waited to vote their way out of the Trump era
Oct 11 at 2:01

Matt Taibbi

I’ve lived through a few coups. They’re insane, random, and terrifying, like watching sports, except your political future depends on the score.

The kickoff begins when a key official decides to buck the executive. From that moment, government becomes a high-speed head-counting exercise. Who’s got the power plant, the airport, the police in the capital? How many department chiefs are answering their phones? Who’s writing tonight’s newscast?

When the KGB in 1991 tried to reassume control of the crumbling Soviet Union by placing Mikhail Gorbachev under arrest and attempting to seize Moscow, logistics ruled. Boris Yeltsin’s crew drove to the Russian White House in ordinary cars, beating KGB coup plotters who were trying to reach the seat of Russian government in armored vehicles. A key moment came when one of Yeltsin’s men, Alexander Rutskoi – who two years later would himself lead a coup against Yeltsin – prevailed upon a Major in a tank unit to defy KGB orders and turn on the “criminals.”

We have long been spared this madness in America. Our head-counting ceremony was Election Day. We did it once every four years.

That’s all over, in the Trump era.

On Thursday, news broke that two businessmen said to have “peddled supposedly explosive information about corruption involving Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden” were arrested at Dulles airport on “campaign finance violations.” The two figures are alleged to be bagmen bearing “dirt” on Democrats, solicited by Trump and his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani.

Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman will be asked to give depositions to impeachment investigators. They’re reportedly going to refuse. Their lawyer John Dowd also says they will “refuse to appear before House Committees investigating President Donald Trump.” Fruman and Parnas meanwhile claim they had real derogatory information about Biden and other politicians, but “the U.S. government had shown little interest in receiving it through official channels.”

For Americans not familiar with the language of the Third World, that’s two contrasting denials of political legitimacy.

The men who are the proxies for Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani in this story are asserting that “official channels” have been corrupted. The forces backing impeachment, meanwhile, are telling us those same defendants are obstructing a lawful impeachment inquiry.

This latest incident, set against the impeachment mania and the reportedly “expanding” Russiagate investigation of U.S. Attorney John Durham, accelerates our timeline to chaos. We are speeding toward a situation when someone in one of these camps refuses to obey a major decree, arrest order, or court decision, at which point Americans will get to experience the joys of their political futures being decided by phone calls to generals and police chiefs.


Not that I agree with everything but he's spot on some points
Long read finish @

We're in a permanent coup

Trumps voting base is increasing massively as each democrat masturbates in public. Trump has more of the Latino and African vote then any republican ever

False...he does not have more of the Hispanic and black vote than any other republican ever

Yup he does, some facts to prove this

1. You claim not but forget to name the republican who had more black and Latino votes, because there is none
2. The population of these people is higher than ever before, thus there are more voters in all groups.
3. Fart on little turd

 

[Frannie]

We're in a permanent coup
Americans might soon wish they just waited to vote their way out of the Trump era
Oct 11 at 2:01

Matt Taibbi

I’ve lived through a few coups. They’re insane, random, and terrifying, like watching sports, except your political future depends on the score.

The kickoff begins when a key official decides to buck the executive. From that moment, government becomes a high-speed head-counting exercise. Who’s got the power plant, the airport, the police in the capital? How many department chiefs are answering their phones? Who’s writing tonight’s newscast?

When the KGB in 1991 tried to reassume control of the crumbling Soviet Union by placing Mikhail Gorbachev under arrest and attempting to seize Moscow, logistics ruled. Boris Yeltsin’s crew drove to the Russian White House in ordinary cars, beating KGB coup plotters who were trying to reach the seat of Russian government in armored vehicles. A key moment came when one of Yeltsin’s men, Alexander Rutskoi – who two years later would himself lead a coup against Yeltsin – prevailed upon a Major in a tank unit to defy KGB orders and turn on the “criminals.”

We have long been spared this madness in America. Our head-counting ceremony was Election Day. We did it once every four years.

That’s all over, in the Trump era.

On Thursday, news broke that two businessmen said to have “peddled supposedly explosive information about corruption involving Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden” were arrested at Dulles airport on “campaign finance violations.” The two figures are alleged to be bagmen bearing “dirt” on Democrats, solicited by Trump and his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani.

Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman will be asked to give depositions to impeachment investigators. They’re reportedly going to refuse. Their lawyer John Dowd also says they will “refuse to appear before House Committees investigating President Donald Trump.” Fruman and Parnas meanwhile claim they had real derogatory information about Biden and other politicians, but “the U.S. government had shown little interest in receiving it through official channels.”

For Americans not familiar with the language of the Third World, that’s two contrasting denials of political legitimacy.

The men who are the proxies for Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani in this story are asserting that “official channels” have been corrupted. The forces backing impeachment, meanwhile, are telling us those same defendants are obstructing a lawful impeachment inquiry.

This latest incident, set against the impeachment mania and the reportedly “expanding” Russiagate investigation of U.S. Attorney John Durham, accelerates our timeline to chaos. We are speeding toward a situation when someone in one of these camps refuses to obey a major decree, arrest order, or court decision, at which point Americans will get to experience the joys of their political futures being decided by phone calls to generals and police chiefs.


Not that I agree with everything but he's spot on some points
Long read finish @

We're in a permanent coup

If Parnas and Fruman had any actual information on Hillary and Biden, why were they sharing that with Ukrainian prosecutors and Giuliani; and not with U.S. prosecutors?

So how is President Hillary doing?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

We're in a permanent coup
Americans might soon wish they just waited to vote their way out of the Trump era
Oct 11 at 2:01

Matt Taibbi

I’ve lived through a few coups. They’re insane, random, and terrifying, like watching sports, except your political future depends on the score.

The kickoff begins when a key official decides to buck the executive. From that moment, government becomes a high-speed head-counting exercise. Who’s got the power plant, the airport, the police in the capital? How many department chiefs are answering their phones? Who’s writing tonight’s newscast?

When the KGB in 1991 tried to reassume control of the crumbling Soviet Union by placing Mikhail Gorbachev under arrest and attempting to seize Moscow, logistics ruled. Boris Yeltsin’s crew drove to the Russian White House in ordinary cars, beating KGB coup plotters who were trying to reach the seat of Russian government in armored vehicles. A key moment came when one of Yeltsin’s men, Alexander Rutskoi – who two years later would himself lead a coup against Yeltsin – prevailed upon a Major in a tank unit to defy KGB orders and turn on the “criminals.”

We have long been spared this madness in America. Our head-counting ceremony was Election Day. We did it once every four years.

That’s all over, in the Trump era.

On Thursday, news broke that two businessmen said to have “peddled supposedly explosive information about corruption involving Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden” were arrested at Dulles airport on “campaign finance violations.” The two figures are alleged to be bagmen bearing “dirt” on Democrats, solicited by Trump and his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani.

Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman will be asked to give depositions to impeachment investigators. They’re reportedly going to refuse. Their lawyer John Dowd also says they will “refuse to appear before House Committees investigating President Donald Trump.” Fruman and Parnas meanwhile claim they had real derogatory information about Biden and other politicians, but “the U.S. government had shown little interest in receiving it through official channels.”

For Americans not familiar with the language of the Third World, that’s two contrasting denials of political legitimacy.

The men who are the proxies for Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani in this story are asserting that “official channels” have been corrupted. The forces backing impeachment, meanwhile, are telling us those same defendants are obstructing a lawful impeachment inquiry.

This latest incident, set against the impeachment mania and the reportedly “expanding” Russiagate investigation of U.S. Attorney John Durham, accelerates our timeline to chaos. We are speeding toward a situation when someone in one of these camps refuses to obey a major decree, arrest order, or court decision, at which point Americans will get to experience the joys of their political futures being decided by phone calls to generals and police chiefs.


Not that I agree with everything but he's spot on some points
Long read finish @

We're in a permanent coup

If Parnas and Fruman had any actual information on Hillary and Biden, why were they sharing that with Ukrainian prosecutors and Giuliani; and not with U.S. prosecutors?

Because corrupt US prosecutors in official channels showed no interest.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

We're in a permanent coup
Americans might soon wish they just waited to vote their way out of the Trump era
Oct 11 at 2:01

Matt Taibbi

I’ve lived through a few coups. They’re insane, random, and terrifying, like watching sports, except your political future depends on the score.

The kickoff begins when a key official decides to buck the executive. From that moment, government becomes a high-speed head-counting exercise. Who’s got the power plant, the airport, the police in the capital? How many department chiefs are answering their phones? Who’s writing tonight’s newscast?

When the KGB in 1991 tried to reassume control of the crumbling Soviet Union by placing Mikhail Gorbachev under arrest and attempting to seize Moscow, logistics ruled. Boris Yeltsin’s crew drove to the Russian White House in ordinary cars, beating KGB coup plotters who were trying to reach the seat of Russian government in armored vehicles. A key moment came when one of Yeltsin’s men, Alexander Rutskoi – who two years later would himself lead a coup against Yeltsin – prevailed upon a Major in a tank unit to defy KGB orders and turn on the “criminals.”

We have long been spared this madness in America. Our head-counting ceremony was Election Day. We did it once every four years.

That’s all over, in the Trump era.

On Thursday, news broke that two businessmen said to have “peddled supposedly explosive information about corruption involving Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden” were arrested at Dulles airport on “campaign finance violations.” The two figures are alleged to be bagmen bearing “dirt” on Democrats, solicited by Trump and his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani.

Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman will be asked to give depositions to impeachment investigators. They’re reportedly going to refuse. Their lawyer John Dowd also says they will “refuse to appear before House Committees investigating President Donald Trump.” Fruman and Parnas meanwhile claim they had real derogatory information about Biden and other politicians, but “the U.S. government had shown little interest in receiving it through official channels.”

For Americans not familiar with the language of the Third World, that’s two contrasting denials of political legitimacy.

The men who are the proxies for Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani in this story are asserting that “official channels” have been corrupted. The forces backing impeachment, meanwhile, are telling us those same defendants are obstructing a lawful impeachment inquiry.

This latest incident, set against the impeachment mania and the reportedly “expanding” Russiagate investigation of U.S. Attorney John Durham, accelerates our timeline to chaos. We are speeding toward a situation when someone in one of these camps refuses to obey a major decree, arrest order, or court decision, at which point Americans will get to experience the joys of their political futures being decided by phone calls to generals and police chiefs.


Not that I agree with everything but he's spot on some points
Long read finish @

We're in a permanent coup

Trumps voting base is increasing massively as each democrat masturbates in public. Trump has more of the Latino and African vote then any republican ever

False...he does not have more of the Hispanic and black vote than any other republican ever

Yup he does, some facts to prove this

1. You claim not but forget to name the republican who had more black and Latino votes, because there is none
2. The population of these people is higher than ever before, thus there are more voters in all groups.
3. Fart on little turd

I swear I have so little respect for idiots like you....

So when you dic suckers claim that the Republican party was the party that freed the slaves, the party that brought black folks civil rights, none of those presidents during that time had a higher percentage of the black vote??

So yo dumb ass thinks Trump won a larger percentage of the black vote than Eisenhower??

Trump didn't when a larger percentage of the black vote than Bush, just shut the fuck up.....

 

[Mac1958]

A very obvious way to look at this is to simply look at the last two presidencies.

When Obama was in office, the Right was constantly tossing around accusations (from birth certificates to Benghazi), constantly demanding and getting investigations, running with every last fucking rumor, and creating some on their own. Any Republicans who DARED to speak of cooperation and collaboration were instantly shunned by the base and branded as RINOs or worse. McConnell himself announced the goal was to make Obama a one-term President.

And now with Trump we're seeing essentially the same behaviors. Yes, some of the accusations may turn out to be true, and we may see people in jail based on his actions. I don't know. But I DO know that talk of impeachment started before Trump even made it into the Oval Office, and that the Left has been in full attack mode since Day One. They have done nothing to hide their hatred from the beginning, and have no interest in being civil.

This is the point. The wings are in war mode, where honesty and rules don't matter. Whatever it takes, no matter what. Any damage is just collateral, part of war. That's killing us, in real time.
.

 

[Faun]

We're in a permanent coup
Americans might soon wish they just waited to vote their way out of the Trump era
Oct 11 at 2:01

Matt Taibbi

I’ve lived through a few coups. They’re insane, random, and terrifying, like watching sports, except your political future depends on the score.

The kickoff begins when a key official decides to buck the executive. From that moment, government becomes a high-speed head-counting exercise. Who’s got the power plant, the airport, the police in the capital? How many department chiefs are answering their phones? Who’s writing tonight’s newscast?

When the KGB in 1991 tried to reassume control of the crumbling Soviet Union by placing Mikhail Gorbachev under arrest and attempting to seize Moscow, logistics ruled. Boris Yeltsin’s crew drove to the Russian White House in ordinary cars, beating KGB coup plotters who were trying to reach the seat of Russian government in armored vehicles. A key moment came when one of Yeltsin’s men, Alexander Rutskoi – who two years later would himself lead a coup against Yeltsin – prevailed upon a Major in a tank unit to defy KGB orders and turn on the “criminals.”

We have long been spared this madness in America. Our head-counting ceremony was Election Day. We did it once every four years.

That’s all over, in the Trump era.

On Thursday, news broke that two businessmen said to have “peddled supposedly explosive information about corruption involving Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden” were arrested at Dulles airport on “campaign finance violations.” The two figures are alleged to be bagmen bearing “dirt” on Democrats, solicited by Trump and his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani.

Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman will be asked to give depositions to impeachment investigators. They’re reportedly going to refuse. Their lawyer John Dowd also says they will “refuse to appear before House Committees investigating President Donald Trump.” Fruman and Parnas meanwhile claim they had real derogatory information about Biden and other politicians, but “the U.S. government had shown little interest in receiving it through official channels.”

For Americans not familiar with the language of the Third World, that’s two contrasting denials of political legitimacy.

The men who are the proxies for Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani in this story are asserting that “official channels” have been corrupted. The forces backing impeachment, meanwhile, are telling us those same defendants are obstructing a lawful impeachment inquiry.

This latest incident, set against the impeachment mania and the reportedly “expanding” Russiagate investigation of U.S. Attorney John Durham, accelerates our timeline to chaos. We are speeding toward a situation when someone in one of these camps refuses to obey a major decree, arrest order, or court decision, at which point Americans will get to experience the joys of their political futures being decided by phone calls to generals and police chiefs.


Not that I agree with everything but he's spot on some points
Long read finish @

We're in a permanent coup

If Parnas and Fruman had any actual information on Hillary and Biden, why were they sharing that with Ukrainian prosecutors and Giuliani; and not with U.S. prosecutors?

Because corrupt US prosecutors in official channels showed no interest.

LOLOLOL

They're trump's prosecutors. Just how deep does his corruption extend?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

If only Trump had fired all the prosecutors and hired his own. Every agency that has democrat operatives is consumed by democrat corruption.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

A very obvious way to look at this is to simply look at the last two presidencies.

When Obama was in office, the Right was constantly tossing around accusations (from birth certificates to Benghazi), constantly demanding and getting investigations, running with every last fucking rumor, and creating some on their own. Any Republicans who DARED to speak of cooperation and collaboration were instantly shunned by the base and branded as RINOs or worse. McConnell himself announced the goal was to make Obama a one-term President.

And now with Trump we're seeing essentially the same behaviors. Yes, some of the accusations may turn out to be true, and we may see people in jail. I don't know. But I DO know that talk of impeachment started before Trump even made it into the Oval Office, and that the Left has been in full attack mode since Day One. They have done nothing to hide their hatred from the beginning, and have no interest in being civil.

This is the point. The wings are in war mode, where honesty and rules don't matter. Whatever it takes, no matter what. That's killing us, in real time.
.

Which LITERALLY means this isn't a both sides do it situation.....people are actually going to jail, crimes have actually been committed....the last impeachment was over Clinton lying under oath about an affair - do you think if Trump lied under oath, Republicans would support his impeachment? Nope....in fact, Trump will never testify under oath -- again, proving this isn't a both sides do it situation..


And the other point you left out is -- the only reason Trump gained any political relevance was from hopping onto the birther movement and also making the claim that he hired investigators who found out "interesting things" about Obama's birth -- then never said anything else about it because it was BS from the beginning

Any normal candidate would have had their careers ended by doing crap like, but for the republican base, it made them want to elect Trump....this isn't a both sides do it situation at all

 

[Mac1958]

....this isn't a both sides do it situation at all

Yeah, I know, both ends tell me that.
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[Biff_Poindexter]

....this isn't a both sides do it situation at all

Yeah, I know, both ends tell me that.
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Doesn't matter what both ends tell you -- it only matters what "both sides" examples you can produce...

Republicans had 9 different Benghazi investigations, Clinton testified for 10 hrs under oath -- the investigation concluded with Hillary being cleared by a REPUBLICAN lead committee -- there is no Democrat example of this....

The Russian investigation was all Republican -- and that investigation found several instances of impeachable offenses.....the problem is the republican base, period....the reason republican senators and congressman continue to look like total sycophants is because they are afraid of their base, not because they agree with Trump....

And their base over the years and have become more and more depraved over the years...

Just remember when the old woman stood up at a McCain townhall and called Obama a muslim and McCain corrected her on the spot....Do you see Trump doing that now?? Fuck no....

Again, this isn't a both sides thing.....

 

[iamwhatiseem]

A very obvious way to look at this is to simply look at the last two presidencies.

When Obama was in office, the Right was constantly tossing around accusations (from birth certificates to Benghazi), constantly demanding and getting investigations, running with every last fucking rumor, and creating some on their own. Any Republicans who DARED to speak of cooperation and collaboration were instantly shunned by the base and branded as RINOs or worse. McConnell himself announced the goal was to make Obama a one-term President.

And now with Trump we're seeing essentially the same behaviors. Yes, some of the accusations may turn out to be true, and we may see people in jail. I don't know. But I DO know that talk of impeachment started before Trump even made it into the Oval Office, and that the Left has been in full attack mode since Day One. They have done nothing to hide their hatred from the beginning, and have no interest in being civil.

This is the point. The wings are in war mode, where honesty and rules don't matter. Whatever it takes, no matter what. That's killing us, in real time.
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Which LITERALLY means this isn't a both sides do it situation.....people are actually going to jail, crimes have actually been committed....the last impeachment was over Clinton lying under oath about an affair - do you think if Trump lied under oath, Republicans would support his impeachment? Nope....in fact, Trump will never testify under oath -- again, proving this isn't a both sides do it situation..


And the other point you left out is -- the only reason Trump gained any political relevance was from hopping onto the birther movement and also making the claim that he hired investigators who found out "interesting things" about Obama's birth -- then never said anything else about it because it was BS from the beginning

Any normal candidate would have had their careers ended by doing crap like, but for the republican base, it made them want to elect Trump....this isn't a both sides do it situation at all

And again........