Wendell Potter apologizes to Michael Moore

Could you possibly get more stupid, Chris?

If the republicans are destroying the nation and the democrats are taking the only meaningful feform options off the table doesn't that mean that the democrats are also destroying the nation?

Doesn't that make the democrats partners with the GOP in destruction of America and doesn't every other policy example prove as much?

So why would any citizen support either partisan poison if they are both evil incarnate bent upon destroying our nation?

I am hardly stupid.

The Republican destruction of America is centered in the myth that lowering taxes for the rich and increasing spending on the military at the same time is a good thing. Reagan and the two Bushes created 93% of the National Debt by lowering taxes for the rich....

ReaganBushDebt.org

Helping the old and the sick is a good thing, and we could learn from the cost cutting measures the French use as far as healthcare goes. The healthcare reform passed by Congress was a good thing, but it needed to go farther.

Why should a diverse population of 300+ million people about what a country the fifth the size of ours does?
It's per capita. Doesn't matter what the difference in population is.
 
No, that's why we need national health insurance.

But thanks for trying.

Lets get a worse system in place and ignore who was in was paid off while in power for this to go into law.

Thank you for playing.

Wrong.

We should just copy the French system.

It is the best in the world, and it works much better than ours.

The French system is not a full NHS. Just pointing out facts for ya.
 
I am hardly stupid.

The Republican destruction of America is centered in the myth that lowering taxes for the rich and increasing spending on the military at the same time is a good thing. Reagan and the two Bushes created 93% of the National Debt by lowering taxes for the rich....

ReaganBushDebt.org

Helping the old and the sick is a good thing, and we could learn from the cost cutting measures the French use as far as healthcare goes. The healthcare reform passed by Congress was a good thing, but it needed to go farther.

Why should a diverse population of 300+ million people about what a country the fifth the size of ours does?
It's per capita. Doesn't matter what the difference in population is.

The French taxpayer is hugely burdened by their system. That's a fact. Having said that, if we were to have fixed our system, we would have been well advised to look at France for an example and considered how that could be tailored to work in the US.

Pity that Obama didn't do this right in the first place. Personally, I would have respected him if he had put together a commission to look at the best options for the US, and focused his first term on fixing the economy. He would then have had 4 years to develop a good, workable, cost effective, system for us... and the majority of Americans would have respected him for it. He fucked up. No surprise. He is a typical egomanic - like most of our politicians.
 
I am hardly stupid.

The Republican destruction of America is centered in the myth that lowering taxes for the rich and increasing spending on the military at the same time is a good thing. Reagan and the two Bushes created 93% of the National Debt by lowering taxes for the rich....

ReaganBushDebt.org

Helping the old and the sick is a good thing, and we could learn from the cost cutting measures the French use as far as healthcare goes. The healthcare reform passed by Congress was a good thing, but it needed to go farther.

Then fuckin move there ya god damned socialist!

Why must we change our system to be like theirs when so many here are against it?
Quite obviously....to BE against Medicare/nationalized health-care....you're required to have an insatiable-hunger for Bullshit.

(I guess it's a acquired-taste, for the least-educated. :eusa_eh: )


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Lets get a worse system in place and ignore who was in was paid off while in power for this to go into law.

Thank you for playing.

Wrong.

We should just copy the French system.

It is the best in the world, and it works much better than ours.

The French system is not a full NHS. Just pointing out facts for ya.
Here are some other facts for ya.​

"Americans often assume that when people get universal coverage, they give up their choice in doctors, hospitals and care. That's not the case in France, Dutton says. The system is set up both to ensure that patients have lots of choice in picking doctors and specialists and to ensure that doctors are not constrained in making medical decisions.

In France, the national insurance program is funded mostly by payroll and income taxes. Those payments go to several quasi-public insurance funds that then negotiate with medical unions to set doctors' fees. (Doctors can choose to work outside this system, and a growing minority now charge what patients are willing to pay out of pocket.) The government regulates most hospital fees. This system works collectively to keep costs down.

When someone goes to see a doctor, the national insurance program pays 70 percent of the bill. Most of the other 30 percent gets picked up by supplemental private insurance, which almost everyone has. It's affordable, and much of it gets paid for by a person's employer.

"There are no uninsured in France," says Victor Rodwin, a professor of health policy at New York University, who is affiliated with the International Longevity Center. "That's completely unheard of. There is no case of anybody going broke over their health costs. In fact, the system is so designed that for the 3 or 4 or 5 percent of the patients who are the very sickest, those patients are exempt from their co-payments to begin with. There are no deductibles."
 

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