We use to teach our children

[RosieS]

Facts about our Public Schools

Unsettling Education Statistics
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Students are not faring well on national assessments. The most recent NAEP assessments indicate that less than one third of U.S. fourth graders are proficient in reading, mathematics, science, and American History.
More than half of low income students cannot even demonstrate basic knowledge of science, reading, and history.
U.S. eighth graders ranked 19th out of 38 countries on mathematic assessments and 18th in science.
U.S. twelfth graders ranked 18th out of 21 countries in combined mathematics and science assessments.

You realize homeschooled children take and are included in these assessments, right? Kinda shoots public vs. home all to heck, huh.

You oughta thank the hated DOE for including all students in your numbers.

Regards from Rosie

 

[OKTexas]

Facts about our Public Schools

Unsettling Education Statistics

Students are not faring well on national assessments. The most recent NAEP assessments indicate that less than one third of U.S. fourth graders are proficient in reading, mathematics, science, and American History.
More than half of low income students cannot even demonstrate basic knowledge of science, reading, and history.
U.S. eighth graders ranked 19th out of 38 countries on mathematic assessments and 18th in science.
U.S. twelfth graders ranked 18th out of 21 countries in combined mathematics and science assessments.

Yep, but more money will fix that, just ask the NEA.

 

[zeke]

What "freedom" am I missing? I missed it. Please help me find it. Thank God I was free to lose it. Or not find it. Or maybe it's not even missing. Maybe my good fuking sense is gone and I am not really missing anything except my favorite tv show. Some cartoon from the 50 ties. About freedom. When everything was free, including the air.. in your tires at the gas o line station. Those were the days my friend.

Now days I am free to shoot my neighbor as long as I stood my ground. And I didn't like him to begin with.

Now days I can go without medical insurnace and, if injured, recieve the very best in emergency medical attention and it's......free.dom.

I can drink to my death, I am free to keep my dick hard for hours, or days. But then I have to seek some of that free medical attention. Or find a new partner for.... free. on the internet.

I am free to move, free to divorce, almost free to file bk. I can quit my job, go to school, and some of it might be free. What freedom am I missing.

I am not free to hit my wife, kids, dog or other livestock, unless I can prove I was standing my ground.

I am free to not pay my taxes, if I quit my job. Unless I have a back tax bill. That ain't free.

I am free to dick around on a message board and say stupid shit and the thought police won't be stopping buy. Unless I make threats to the wrong person. That's a problem. But it don't have to do with free.

So anyway. What freedom am I missing again?

 

[Dick Tuck]

Facts about our Public Schools

Unsettling Education Statistics

Students are not faring well on national assessments. The most recent NAEP assessments indicate that less than one third of U.S. fourth graders are proficient in reading, mathematics, science, and American History.
More than half of low income students cannot even demonstrate basic knowledge of science, reading, and history.
U.S. eighth graders ranked 19th out of 38 countries on mathematic assessments and 18th in science.
U.S. twelfth graders ranked 18th out of 21 countries in combined mathematics and science assessments.

Yep, but more money will fix that, just ask the NEA.

You seem to want a free lunch.

 

[Meathead]

I have no objection to public schools for my 14 year old. Of course I do not live in the US. In the Czech Republic kids take tests and are sent to public schools according to their results. This has the advantage of more rigorous curricula for advanced students.

Probably more important, he is not subject to political correctness and silly liberal indoctrination as has become the trend in US public schools. If I lived in the US, I would certainly send him to private schools. I would not want my son to degenerate to the level so abundantly clear on boards like this.

 

[Uncensored2008]

why are you ignoring 200 plus years of caselaw? are you saying they're merely a suggestion?

Dred Scott v. Sandford
Plessy v. Ferguson
Roe v. Wade
Kelo v. New London

Oh, what were you bleating, silly Jilly?

When unelected judges foray past the application of codified law into the determination of what law is, justice by necessity will be capricious and rare.

 

[Uncensored2008]

you didn't ask about it's permanency... and that's right.

they do get reversed...

plessy v ferguson gets displaced by brown v board of ed... and so on.

hopefully at some point citizens united will become displaced by judges that actually care about our system of government.

i think that's the point about the flexibility of the constitution.

thanks for proving the point.

So what you're saying is that law is arbitrary and dependent on the judicial ruler rather than the codified legislation? What is law today may not be tomorrow, depending on the mood of our 9 sovereigns.

 

[B. Kidd]

why are you ignoring 200 plus years of caselaw? are you saying they're merely a suggestion?

Dred Scott v. Sandford
Plessy v. Ferguson
Roe v. Wade
Kelo v. New London

Oh, what were you bleating, silly Jilly?

When unelected judges foray past the application of codified law into the determination of what law is, justice by necessity will be capricious and rare.

She is still getting ed-u-kated!
And, shouldn't attempt to try to educate.

 

[RosieS]

I have no objection to public schools for my 14 year old. Of course I do not live in the US. In the Czech Republic kids take tests and are sent to public schools according to their results. This has the advantage of more rigorous curricula for advanced students.

Probably more important, he is not subject to political correctness and silly liberal indoctrination as has become the trend in US public schools. If I lived in the US, I would certainly send him to private schools. I would not want my son to degenerate to the level so abundantly clear on boards like this.

It is due to the lack of indoctrination that people are pulling their kids out and into private or homeschooling.

No prayer, no Bible study, no creationism. The doctrinaire parents don't have public school kids.

As usual you have it exactly wrong.

Regards from Rosie

 

[Uncensored2008]

She is still getting ed-u-kated!
And, shouldn't attempt to try to educate.

Jillian is either a new york lawyer so out of touch with reality as to appear a buffoon, or more likely, a 50 something living in a trailer on SSI, eating bon-bons and watching MSNBC.

My guess is the second option.

 

[B. Kidd]

Perhaps your neighbors are telling you what they think you want to hear, because you're a wingnut pain in the ass. I was very happy with my kids public education and am pleased with how well they turned out.

Never mind that a large majority of this Nation thinks the same thing about our lousy public schools.

"A large majority"? I'd say a large majority is happy with their kids teachers and school system.

My kids? I didn't bring my kids perspective into this argument. I just voiced my opinion about how they were were educated. But since you want to use family, why don't you go fuck yourself with a broken bottle.

D.T.. You deserve to be neg-repped for that comment. I like Peach, but you are not man enuff to hold your rep out!!!!!
This, from a supporter of the party that accused another one of a 'War on Women'.
A typical Lefty.......

 

[B. Kidd]

She is still getting ed-u-kated!
And, shouldn't attempt to try to educate.

Jillian is either a new york lawyer so out of touch with reality as to appear a buffoon, or more likely, a 50 something living in a trailer on SSI, eating bon-bons and watching MSNBC.

My guess is the second option.

Hope she is not a criminal lawyer, cause I rob banks.

 

[OKTexas]

Facts about our Public Schools

Unsettling Education Statistics

Students are not faring well on national assessments. The most recent NAEP assessments indicate that less than one third of U.S. fourth graders are proficient in reading, mathematics, science, and American History.
More than half of low income students cannot even demonstrate basic knowledge of science, reading, and history.
U.S. eighth graders ranked 19th out of 38 countries on mathematic assessments and 18th in science.
U.S. twelfth graders ranked 18th out of 21 countries in combined mathematics and science assessments.

Yep, but more money will fix that, just ask the NEA.

You seem to want a free lunch.

Nope, just an education sysytem that does not make excuses decade after decade as to why it can't seem to do it's job. We've wasted 1.2 trillion dollars in the last 32 years on the dept of ed. and have gotten higher drop out rates, lower test scores and excuses that they need more money. Schools aren't donig any better now than they did without the DOE. It's time to stop throwing money down a shit hole.

 

[B. Kidd]

Dept. of Ed. has alot in common with trying to eradicate poverty for 30-40 years.

Neither worked!

 

[g5000]

For over two hundred years (TWO HUNDRED YEARS!), when you went in to vote on Election Day, no one asked for your identification. Now, some little totalitarian wannabe's want me to show my papers to vote.

A few decades ago, the idea of a cabinet level Department of Homeland Security would have raised the ire of patriots who would have told you to go live in the USSR if you were into that kind of shit. "America: Love it or leave it, comrade", they would sardonically tell you.

Today, some social engineering dipshits don't like it if I get to choose what kind of sack I carry my groceries in. They are trying to ban plastic bags, of which you would have to use well over a hundred of those damn things to offset the environmental impact of producing just one of their stupid reusable shopping bags. If you use two or three reusable grocery bags, I could shop for damn near a decade with plastic bags before I was as big a greenhouse contributing dumb fuck as you. But noooooooo...we have to abide by your totalitarian idiocy.

Don't even get me started on incandescent light bulbs, you mercury-loving fluorescent bulb enviro-nazi!

Some other dipshits want to peruse my and tens of millions of other Americans' phone records without a warrant. Hey, if you aren't doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about, amiright? Just ask King George III. This is for your protection, citizen!

I could go on all day.

Left-wing and right-wing totalitarian dipshits are constantly seeking to build a government superhighway into my fucking life. I hate all of them.

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[RosieS]

Yep, but more money will fix that, just ask the NEA.

You seem to want a free lunch.

Nope, just an education sysytem that does not make excuses decade after decade as to why it can't seem to do it's job. We've wasted 1.2 trillion dollars in the last 32 years on the dept of ed. and have gotten higher drop out rates, lower test scores and excuses that they need more money. Schools aren't donig any better now than they did without the DOE. It's time to stop throwing money down a shit hole.

It is not up to the DOE to ensure quality schools in your locality. Local government runs schools thru the school boards and are funded by your state.

If your schools are crappy it is due to so many R governors and legislatures years and years of neglect.

The DOE is in charge of making sure federal law is followed by the states. No state can establish an "Autistic School", for example, to warehouse them away from "normal" kids.

Educate yourself about schools. They are only going to drop more in quality with 34 states run by Republicans.

Regards from Rosie

 

[Avatar4321]

This line caught my attention:

"When anybody preaches disunity, tries to pit one of us against the other, through class warfare, race hatred, or religious intolerance, you know that person seeks to rob us of our freedom and destroy our very lives."

True in 1959, true today.

Very true. They are trying to Rob us of our freedom and our money.

 

[Avatar4321]

Based on writings on site, I cannot help but think that sometime after I graduated we started teaching some previously unknown virtues of socialism and the elimination of personal freedoms.

I had no idea that so many Americans hated the freedoms we once were so proud of before Obama became President.

Immie

I didn't either. You'd be surprised how ignorant most people are of them.

 

[Avatar4321]

you posted a cartoon. how serious do you want to be taken?

Ben Franklin took political cartoons seriously. But I'm sure you know better...

The First Political Cartoons in America | Archiving Early America

and what's your point? political cartoons are one thing, political propaganda is another.

why should this cartoon be taken seriously? because it's old? because xenophobes agree with it? what is it that makes this cartoon a respectable source?

It's accuracy. People used to value accuracy in the past.

 

[Avatar4321]

Bullshit.

Any of my kids would run circles around you in a discussion about freedom and our Constitution. And two of them are not that into Social Science as subject matter. They have all been educated in Florida public schools.

And.....the idea that public school curricula have been altered since president Obama took office is ridiculous.

So you are arguing that your children would argue better than you would? While the bar isn't that high, I am still a bit skeptical.