We should stop calling them "Liberals!"

[Correll]

Well... no, not really. We have toxic waste dumps out of necessity because we don't want to pollute our environment. The largest source of toxic waste is medical waste. Do you think we should stop treating medical patients and close the hospitals? What are they supposed to do with their toxic waste? Other sources come from manufacturing things like computers and electronic circuitry. You want to give up computers and electronics? How about steel making or the automotive industry? You want to give those up too? Because... IF we're going to have those things and IF we are going to also have an EPA to keep us safe from toxins... then we MUST have toxic waste dumps. Unfortunately, there is no Toxic Waste Fairy.

Guy, you miss my point. I'm all for dumping Toxic Waste in the South. You people fucking deserve it.

Of course, we COULD AND SHOULD properly dispose of that waste through recycling, but dumping it next to Cleetus and Billy-bob and all the other inbred, bible-thumping rednecks who fly Confederate Flags... that works, too.

Now... Toxic waste dumps are highly regulated by the EPA. Strict guidelines are enforced and facilities are monitored closely to ensure compliance. There is no risk to public health anywhere near a toxic waste facility. There is very little health risk to employees who work at toxic waste facilities when procedures are followed correctly. It is precisely BECAUSE we are a free market capitalist system brimming with ingenuity and technology, that we are capable of efficiently handling our toxic byproducts... unlike places like China and North Korea.

Guy, you just contradicted yourself. You admitted that Toxic waste is relatively safe because of strict government regulations, and then praised the free market- you know, the guys trying to get rid of government regulation- for it.

Man, you inbreds are stupid.

Racist moron, you cannot recycle all waste.

 

[Correll]

Guy, you miss my point. I'm all for dumping Toxic Waste in the South. You people fucking deserve it.

Of course, we COULD AND SHOULD properly dispose of that waste through recycling, but dumping it next to Cleetus and Billy-bob...

Again, you are flat wrong... as usual.

As my posted maps show, your state has plenty of toxic waste facilities, as do most states. What the hell do you mean "recycle" it? You can't recycle cadmium and arsenic or asbestos, heavy metals, mercury and radioactive material. You can't recycle syringes and colostomy bags. That's why we have facilities where they can be properly disposed. Sometimes, certain things can be incinerated, other times it just has to be buried....

He is just spouting ideological rhetoric without considering the meaning of the words.

 

[JoeB131]

Uhm... hate to be the one to tell you this, but we'll ALWAYS have poverty. There is no system that eliminates poverty. It is in OUR system more people can pull themselves out of poverty... Like Madame C.J. Walker.

actually, the Europeans have a pretty good handle on it... welfare without shame and a sturdy safety net.. But you done keep believing you are exceptional, Cleetus.

And as for your emotive example of the children working... the government most certainly didn't put an end to it... the people did, through their elected representatives. IF governments did that, you wouldn't have that sort of thing in China or North Korea.

Again, why do you guys need to use a comparison to a backward third world country to make your point. Let's do apples to Apples comparisons- The US compared to other first world nations.= UK, France, Germany, Japan, Canada...

We don't look so good compared to them. "Better than North Korea" is kind of a low bar, isn't it? I mean for those of us who don't live next to the Toxic Waste Dump in Cleetusland.

This is a really good movie you need to watch. It explains how the modern Progressive movement emerged. The bird brains aren't going to get it, they are programed to reject anything that challenges their narrative. They are too invested at this point. Dinesh S'Souza lays out the indictment of Saul Alinsky and how he tapped into the radical 60s movement who were ripe for the picking. After watching this, you will understand who these people are and what they are up to.

Dinesh d'SOuza is a piece of shit who belongs in jail.

 

[JoeB131]

Racist moron, you cannot recycle all waste.

Hey, guy, I'm all for dumping the Waste in Jesus-land. Because if you people get birth defects, no one would notice...

 

[JoeB131]

1. The fact that you keep dancing around like a coward is that Nixon, instead of pandering to southern racists, desegregated southern schools ASAP.

Nixon did no such thing, the courts did. Nixon was the guy who had to resign because he wasn't clear on the whole "abuse of power" thing.

Whatever caused the South to flip, Nixon was NOT pandering to southern racists.

That is a lie lefties like you tell blacks to keep them afraid.

Naw, what keeps black afraid is when cops shoot their children... and no one is held accountable.

2. It is not scaremongering when a moronic liberals is letting murderers out to assault, stab and rape citizens.

Um, yeah, it is when you lie about the facts of the case, which is what Atwater did.

Hey, Atwater apologized before he met his maker, why are you still arguing this again?

 

[Correll]

Racist moron, you cannot recycle all waste.

Hey, guy, I'm all for dumping the Waste in Jesus-land. Because if you people get birth defects, no one would notice...

Thanks for not dishonestly denying that you are a racist.

But my point that you cannot recycle all waste stands.

 

[JoeB131]

Thanks for not dishonestly denying that you are a racist.

But my point that you cannot recycle all waste stands.

It isn't a matter of "Race", guy. You Southerners aren't a race.

You are a thorough fucked up culture of truly stupid people. Mostly due to the inbreeding and the stupid religion.

 

[Correll]

1. The fact that you keep dancing around like a coward is that Nixon, instead of pandering to southern racists, desegregated southern schools ASAP.

Nixon did no such thing, the courts did. Nixon was the guy who had to resign because he wasn't clear on the whole "abuse of power" thing.

Whatever caused the South to flip, Nixon was NOT pandering to southern racists.

That is a lie lefties like you tell blacks to keep them afraid.

Naw, what keeps black afraid is when cops shoot their children... and no one is held accountable.

2. It is not scaremongering when a moronic liberals is letting murderers out to assault, stab and rape citizens.

Um, yeah, it is when you lie about the facts of the case, which is what Atwater did.

Hey, Atwater apologized before he met his maker, why are you still arguing this again?

1. That right wing rag, the New York Times.

How a Republican Desegregated the South's Schools



"In 1970, seven states -- Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina and South Carolina -- continued to enforce the dual school system. This was in clear defiance of the Supreme Court's 1954 decision in Brown v. Topeka Board of Education, which declared dual school systems to be unconstitutional. It was also in defiance of a 1969 court decision ordering an end to further delay.

If it's possible to imagine, the subject of desegregation was becoming more inflamed by the day. In March 1970, President Richard M. Nixon decided to take action. He declared Brown to be ''right in both constitutional and human terms'' and expressed his intention to enforce the law. He also put in place a process to carry out the court's mandate. Vice President Spiro T. Agnew and I (then secretary of labor) were asked to lead a cabinet committee to manage the transition to desegregated schools.

The vice president said he wanted no part of this effort. So I became its de facto chairman, with help from Daniel Patrick Moynihan, then a counselor to the president, and Leonard Garment, one of the president's lawyers. With the president's support, we formed biracial committees in each of the seven states. The idea was to reach out to key leaders. Many were reluctant to serve, the whites fearing too close an association with desegregation, the blacks concerned that the committee might be a sham.

The first group to come to Washington was from Mississippi. We met in the Roosevelt Room of the White House, across the hall from the Oval Office. The discussion was civil, but deep divisions were evident. I let them argue for a while. Then, by prearrangement, I had John Mitchell, the attorney general, drop by. He was known in the South as a tough guy, and on the whole was regarded by whites as sympathetic to their cause. I asked Mitchell what he planned to do about the schools. ''I am attorney general, and I will enforce the law,'' he growled in his gruff, pipe-smoking way. He offered no judgments about whether this was good, bad or indifferent. ''I will enforce the law,'' he repeated. With that, he left.

I then addressed the group. ''This discussion has been intense and revealing, but you can see that it's not really relevant,'' I told them. ''The fact is, desegregation is going to happen, whether you like it or not. You have a great stake in seeing that this effort is managed in a reasonable way.'' Gradually, the discussion shifted to more operational issues.

When lunchtime arrived, I took the group to the diplomatic reception rooms in the State Department, taking pains to point out to them the desk on which Thomas Jefferson wrote parts of the Declaration of Independence. I sat with the two people I wanted to lead the Mississippi advisory committee: Warren Hood, president of the Mississippi Manufacturers Association, and Dr. Gilbert Mason, a black physician and head of the Biloxi chapter of the N.A.A.C.P. I argued that if they would accept, the committee would have great credibility with whites and blacks.

I could see they were beginning to talk constructively to each other, so I left them alone. As lunch ended, I was pleased to see them shaking hands. We were in business.

After we returned to the White House, members of the delegation started to make suggestions about how to handle various problems. I mentioned that we had created a small kitty out of Department of Health, Education and Welfare funds -- if they had minor expenditures, I could provide some money quickly. That seemed to help.

When the time was right, I let President Nixon know that we were ready for him. We walked across the hall into the Oval Office, where the president gathered his guests around his desk. ''We live in a great democracy where authority and responsibility are shared,'' I remember him saying. ''Just as decisions are made here in this office, decisions are made throughout the states and communities of our country. You are leaders in those communities and you have to step up to your responsibilities. '' They left the Oval Office inspired."



"
Vice President Agnew warned the president not to go. There you will be in that room, Mr. President, I recall him saying. Half the people there will be black; half will be white. Pictures will be taken. When the schools open, there will be blood running through the streets of the South, and if you go, this will be blood on your hands. This is not your issue. This is the issue of the liberals who have pushed for desegregation. Stay away.

The president looked at me. I told him what was obvious: I can't predict what will happen. The vice president may very well be right about violence, but you're the president of the whole country. We should do everything we can to see that the schools open and operate peacefully and well.

The president decided to go ahead."


"
In the end, the school openings were peaceful, to the amazement of almost everyone. I was not the only one impressed.

In ''One of Us: Richard Nixon and the American Dream,'' Tom Wicker, a former columnist for The Times, assessed the president's efforts. ''There's no doubt about it -- the Nixon administration accomplished more in 1970 to desegregate Southern school systems than had been done in the 16 previous years, or probably since,'' he wrote. ''There's no doubt either that it was Richard Nixon personally who conceived, orchestrated and led the administration's desegregation effort. Halting and uncertain before he finally asserted strong control, that effort resulted in probably the outstanding domestic achievement of his administration.''



Your entire world view is based on lies.



2. And an attempt at distraction. The SOuthern Strategy is a vile lie you lefties tell blacks to keep them afraid.


3. Dukakis let Horton out and he assaulted and stabbed and raped. Pointing out that a liberal candidate has a record of letting murderers out to assault and stab and rape is not racist or fear mongering. lt is informing the people about the truth of the choice between them, and who dangerous it is to give any power to moron liberals.

 

[Correll]

Thanks for not dishonestly denying that you are a racist.

But my point that you cannot recycle all waste stands.

It isn't a matter of "Race", guy. You Southerners aren't a race.

You are a thorough fucked up culture of truly stupid people. Mostly due to the inbreeding and the stupid religion.

I understand that as a liberal, you have abused the english language so much that you have forgotten the meanings of the words you use.

And I don't care. Don't waste my time. If you are confused by my usage of the english language look up the word in a dictionary to educate yourself.


Your words show you to be a racist and a bigot.


Oh, and fuck you, you asshole.

 

[Boss]

actually, the Europeans have a pretty good handle on it...

No.. there is certainly poverty across Europe. My statement stands until you find an example of any society without poverty. Now, you have thousands and thousands of societies through history and you only need to find one example... so I think that is legitimately fair. But when you start pointing to societies who you think have less poverty... well that's debatable and you've not refuted my point.

Again, why do you guys need to use a comparison to a backward third world country to make your point.

Well sorry, but the point is about government eliminating child labor, so we have to look at examples where people aren't free and there is central government control. Unfortunately, there are no "first world" examples of such a thing. Again.. IF "government" eliminated child labor, we wouldn't see it exist in places like China or North Korea where government is in totalitarian control. So clearly, "governments" don't eliminate child labor or slave labor. This is something done by FREE people in a FREE society.

The US compared to other first world nations.= UK, France, Germany, Japan, Canada...

We don't look so good compared to them.

To the contrary, we look supremely and exceptionally better than all those examples. But none of those examples are totalitarian governments, so we can't see an example of government eliminating child labor, which was my point. Governments do not eliminate child labor or slave labor. Free people do.

Dinesh d'SOuza is a piece of shit who belongs in jail.

You're a piece of shit who belongs in jail.

See how that worked?

 

[MaryL]

I used to be a liberal. Liberals NOW are just thug apparatchiks . Rather we do away with that .Liberals want peace and brotherhood. And there isn't any cause liberals won't subjugate to, no mater the cost.

 

[Boss]

Thanks for not dishonestly denying that you are a racist.

But my point that you cannot recycle all waste stands.

It isn't a matter of "Race", guy. You Southerners aren't a race.

You are a thorough fucked up culture of truly stupid people. Mostly due to the inbreeding and the stupid religion.

I don't know if you realize it or not... or maybe you're just oblivious to it... but whenever you display the kind of disdain you do on a consistent basis toward entire groups of people... that's called BIGOTRY.

So you have clearly proven time and time again that you are a bigot with the mind of a bigot. Your thinking and evaluations are bigoted. I have never met a racist who wasn't also a bigot.

Now.. I know you don't like me saying this but I think you are a big time racist bigot, Joey. But you're not a proud racist... you see, there are two types of racists... those who don't give a shit, who know they are racists and they're proud of it, they spew racist ideas left and right and don't really care... then there are racists who are ashamed they are racists and try their best to keep it well hidden. That's you, Joey.

And what you suffer from is called "white liberal guilt" because you are, deep down, a racist and you're ashamed. You really want others to believe you're not a racist so you go out there and promote these "causes" on behalf of black people. But no matter what you do, you can't escape your bigotry, it seeps through despite every effort you make. Even when you are promoting your chosen "causes" it comes out.

Some of us can see that and you don't realize we can.

 

[Boss]

I used to be a liberal. Liberals NOW are just thug apparatchiks . Rather we do away with that .Liberals want peace and brotherhood. And there isn't any cause liberals won't subjugate to, no mater the cost.

Well, the OP lays out the case that the modern "liberal" is not really a liberal in the classical sense. They've simply stolen the identity of liberalism. Many of them are indeed "thug apparatchiks" as you put it. But let's be careful not to fall into the bigoted mindset of people like Joey and paint everyone with the same brush. I believe some modern liberals are well-intentioned people who have simply been led astray by rhetoric. They may very well be liberals in the classical sense, but they've been duped into believing liberalism is something else.

What has become the voice of the modern liberal movement or progressive movement if you prefer, is that of radical Marxist-Socialists and Communists. If you read the current DNC platform it bears a remarkable likeness to Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto. Some people think that's extreme hyperbole but it's really not. They are virtually identical in thought.

 

[Grizz]

1. The fact that you keep dancing around like a coward is that Nixon, instead of pandering to southern racists, desegregated southern schools ASAP.

Nixon did no such thing, the courts did. Nixon was the guy who had to resign because he wasn't clear on the whole "abuse of power" thing.

Whatever caused the South to flip, Nixon was NOT pandering to southern racists.

That is a lie lefties like you tell blacks to keep them afraid.

Naw, what keeps black afraid is when cops shoot their children... and no one is held accountable.

2. It is not scaremongering when a moronic liberals is letting murderers out to assault, stab and rape citizens.

Um, yeah, it is when you lie about the facts of the case, which is what Atwater did.

Hey, Atwater apologized before he met his maker, why are you still arguing this again?

Too bad you weren't standing behind Brown in Ferguson.

 

[JoeB131]

Your entire world view is based on lies.

Nothing in that story contradicted that the Courts made Nixon desegregate.

2. And an attempt at distraction. The SOuthern Strategy is a vile lie you lefties tell blacks to keep them afraid.

No, the Southern Strategy is what the GOP did to make White Afraid. Now there just aren't enough old white people around anymore to make it work. The sad thing is, the music has changed, but you all can't stop dancing with NaziTrump doing the same shit.

3. Dukakis let Horton out and he assaulted and stabbed and raped. Pointing out that a liberal candidate has a record of letting murderers out to assault and stab and rape is not racist or fear mongering. lt is informing the people about the truth of the choice between them, and who dangerous it is to give any power to moron liberals.

No, the courts let Horton out because the Legislature didn't word the furlough program properly. But that wasn't the discussion Bush-41 wanted to have. He wanted to say, "OHMYGODTHATN*GGERISGOINGTOKILLYOU" and people bought it!

I understand that as a liberal, you have abused the english language so much that you have forgotten the meanings of the words you use.

And I don't care. Don't waste my time. If you are confused by my usage of the english language look up the word in a dictionary to educate yourself.

I'm sorry you don't understand the difference between race and culture. You rednecks aren't a race, you are a culture. One that is hopefully becoming extinct.

 

[Grizz]

Your entire world view is based on lies.

Nothing in that story contradicted that the Courts made Nixon desegregate.

2. And an attempt at distraction. The SOuthern Strategy is a vile lie you lefties tell blacks to keep them afraid.

No, the Southern Strategy is what the GOP did to make White Afraid. Now there just aren't enough old white people around anymore to make it work. The sad thing is, the music has changed, but you all can't stop dancing with NaziTrump doing the same shit.

3. Dukakis let Horton out and he assaulted and stabbed and raped. Pointing out that a liberal candidate has a record of letting murderers out to assault and stab and rape is not racist or fear mongering. lt is informing the people about the truth of the choice between them, and who dangerous it is to give any power to moron liberals.

No, the courts let Horton out because the Legislature didn't word the furlough program properly. But that wasn't the discussion Bush-41 wanted to have. He wanted to say, "OHMYGODTHATN*GGERISGOINGTOKILLYOU" and people bought it!

I understand that as a liberal, you have abused the english language so much that you have forgotten the meanings of the words you use.

And I don't care. Don't waste my time. If you are confused by my usage of the english language look up the word in a dictionary to educate yourself.

I'm sorry you don't understand the difference between race and culture. You rednecks aren't a race, you are a culture. One that is hopefully becoming extinct.

You agreed with ole LBJ, "I'll have those ******* voting Democrat for a hundred years".

 

[JoeB131]

No.. there is certainly poverty across Europe. My statement stands until you find an example of any society without poverty. Now, you have thousands and thousands of societies through history and you only need to find one example... so I think that is legitimately fair. But when you start pointing to societies who you think have less poverty... well that's debatable and you've not refuted my point.

Their poverty is NOWHERE near what ours is. IN fact, they beat us in nearly every major inidcator of quality of life. Hey, AMerica is an awesome place to live if you are rich. I'm more concerned about the rest of us.

Well sorry, but the point is about government eliminating child labor, so we have to look at examples where people aren't free and there is central government control. Unfortunately, there are no "first world" examples of such a thing. Again.. IF "government" eliminated child labor, we wouldn't see it exist in places like China or North Korea where government is in totalitarian control. So clearly, "governments" don't eliminate child labor or slave labor. This is something done by FREE people in a FREE society.

You see, this is where you are confused. The point is, in the First World, Child labor HAS been eliminated. But it wasn't eliminated by the "Free Market". It was eliminated because progressives put an end to it.

To the contrary, we look supremely and exceptionally better than all those examples. But none of those examples are totalitarian governments, so we can't see an example of government eliminating child labor, which was my point. Governments do not eliminate child labor or slave labor. Free people do.

Guy, Markets aren't "Free People", and corporations aren't "Free people' and neither are capitalists. Now, I know you've been brainwashed into not understanding the difference, but democracy is the oppossite of capitalism.

 

[JoeB131]

You agreed with ole LBJ, "I'll have those ******* voting Democrat for a hundred years".

Except LBJ said nothing of the sort. But never mind.

 

[JoeB131]

I used to be a liberal. Liberals NOW are just thug apparatchiks . Rather we do away with that .Liberals want peace and brotherhood. And there isn't any cause liberals won't subjugate to, no mater the cost.

You see, I used to be a conservative... until I figured out that they don't want to maintain a status quo, they want to take us back to the Gilded Age where the rich live large and the rest of us live in misery...

and they get stupid people to go along with it by playing on their racial, sexual, and religious fears.

 

[Grizz]

You agreed with ole LBJ, "I'll have those ******* voting Democrat for a hundred years".

Except LBJ said nothing of the sort. But never mind.

"Then in 1957, Johnson would help get the “****** bill” passed, known to most as the Civil Rights Act of 1957. With the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act, the segregationists would go to their graves knowing the cause they’d given their lives to had been betrayed, Frank Underwood style, by a man they believed to be one of their own. When Caro asked segregationist Georgia Democrat Herman Talmadge how he felt when Johnson, signing the Civil Rights Act, said ”we shall overcome,” Talmadge said “sick.”

Lyndon Johnson was a civil rights hero. But also a racist.

Sure thing.