Was Jesus the First Republican?

[EdwardBaiamonte]

He turned water into wine, and didn't even try to make a profit on it.

What kind of Republican does that?

does that mean you agree with OP? can you say why?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Yeah.... Nope. If Jesus were real and alive today and actually believed all that stuff in the Bible he'd be extremely pissed at republicans in general and the religious right in particular.

I predict a righteous smiting!

can you put into words why you think he'd be upset??

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Jesus was crucified by Republicans

oh no, Jesus was crucified by Democrats!

( this is considered meaningful debate exchange to a liberal)

 

[buttercup]

"Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom."
2 Corinthians 3:17

so you agree with OP?

No, actually I wasn't commenting on the 'Republican' part of it at all. (I was going to say, a better question would be "was Jesus the first libertarian?" )

 

[Winston]

. Ever hear of Sparticus?

yes a slave and??????

Do some homework and get back to me.

Social class in ancient Rome - Wikipedia

 

[Avatar4321]

Was Jesus the First Republican?

Sure he was. He created individual liberty on earth. He was a powerful common man who liberated other common men from earthly liberal rulers such as Caesar. He taught that each individual person was loved by God and had an individual relationship with God that was based on his free will and individual behavior toward other people and toward God.. This was opposite to liberal statist Rome wherein all human beings on earth were the same. They were mere animals to be defeated militarily, captured, enslaved, raped, killed or taxed. The transformational liberty Jesus created on earth slowly gave birth to Christianity, the Reformation, Enlightenment, and finally the American Revolution. To this day Republicans stand to limit Caesarian liberal statist govt and maintain or increase liberty , while Democrats oppose this basic trajectory of Western Civilization every step of the way!

The delusion of Republicans knows no bounds.

Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of Heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn: for they will be comforted.
Blessed are the meek: for they will inherit the earth.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness: for they will be filled.
Blessed are the merciful: for they will be shown mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart: for they will see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they will be called children of God.
Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

Yeah, sounds like a Republican to me.

And I suggest you study your Roman History. The Roman empire did not believe all people were the same. Ever hear of Sparticus?

actually it does sounds more like republican. Each one of those beattitudes is a responsibility. Jesus is teaching individuals to be responsible in their lives and not telling them to demand government do those things

 

[Picaro]

Was Jesus the First Republican?

Sure he was. He created individual liberty on earth. He was a powerful common man who liberated other common men from earthly liberal rulers such as Caesar. He taught that each individual person was loved by God and had an individual relationship with God that was based on his free will and individual behavior toward other people and toward God.. This was opposite to liberal statist Rome wherein all human beings on earth were the same. They were mere animals to be defeated militarily, captured, enslaved, raped, killed or taxed. The transformational liberty Jesus created on earth slowly gave birth to Christianity, the Reformation, Enlightenment, and finally the American Revolution. To this day Republicans stand to limit Caesarian liberal statist govt and maintain or increase liberty , while Democrats oppose this basic trajectory of Western Civilization every step of the way!

lol what a load of rubbish.

And, the Romans were a very enlightened bunch, compared to the surrounding tribes, and even the Greeks. The Roman Empire was necessary for Christianity to travel as far and wide as it did. Without Rome there would have been no 'West'. It's embrace of diversity and tolerance and universal citizenship did it in, actually.

 

[Picaro]

Was Jesus the First Republican?

Sure he was. He created individual liberty on earth. He was a powerful common man who liberated other common men from earthly liberal rulers such as Caesar. He taught that each individual person was loved by God and had an individual relationship with God that was based on his free will and individual behavior toward other people and toward God.. This was opposite to liberal statist Rome wherein all human beings on earth were the same. They were mere animals to be defeated militarily, captured, enslaved, raped, killed or taxed. The transformational liberty Jesus created on earth slowly gave birth to Christianity, the Reformation, Enlightenment, and finally the American Revolution. To this day Republicans stand to limit Caesarian liberal statist govt and maintain or increase liberty , while Democrats oppose this basic trajectory of Western Civilization every step of the way!

The delusion of Republicans knows no bounds.

Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of Heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn: for they will be comforted.
Blessed are the meek: for they will inherit the earth.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness: for they will be filled.
Blessed are the merciful: for they will be shown mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart: for they will see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they will be called children of God.
Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

Yeah, sounds like a Republican to me.

And I suggest you study your Roman History. The Roman empire did not believe all people were the same. Ever hear of Sparticus?

actually it does sounds more like republican. Each one of those beattitudes is a responsibility. Jesus is teaching individuals to be responsible in their lives and not telling them to demand government do those things

Well, it is teaching people not to be total asshats, which of course most on the Right can't exist without.

 

[rightwinger]

Jesus was crucified by Republicans

oh no, Jesus was crucified by Democrats!

( this is considered meaningful debate exchange to a liberal)

Romans were Republicans

 

[Avatar4321]

Was Jesus the First Republican?

Sure he was. He created individual liberty on earth. He was a powerful common man who liberated other common men from earthly liberal rulers such as Caesar. He taught that each individual person was loved by God and had an individual relationship with God that was based on his free will and individual behavior toward other people and toward God.. This was opposite to liberal statist Rome wherein all human beings on earth were the same. They were mere animals to be defeated militarily, captured, enslaved, raped, killed or taxed. The transformational liberty Jesus created on earth slowly gave birth to Christianity, the Reformation, Enlightenment, and finally the American Revolution. To this day Republicans stand to limit Caesarian liberal statist govt and maintain or increase liberty , while Democrats oppose this basic trajectory of Western Civilization every step of the way!

Why would you relate Republicans with Individual liberty?

Because of the two parties they are bigger on individual liberties.

course that's only the conservative wing of the party

 

[Picaro]

I take it you thing Rome was bad because of what happened to Herods temple.

Rome was bad?? Well it was not a democracy was it???????

Nothing magical about being a democracy. Republics tend to have the longest life spans outside of Asia.

Somebody said the problem with democracy is that the opinions and votes of geniuses have no more influence or carry any more weight than the village idiot's. And, there are a lot more village idiots than geniuses.

 

[Avatar4321]

Was Jesus the First Republican?

Sure he was. He created individual liberty on earth. He was a powerful common man who liberated other common men from earthly liberal rulers such as Caesar. He taught that each individual person was loved by God and had an individual relationship with God that was based on his free will and individual behavior toward other people and toward God.. This was opposite to liberal statist Rome wherein all human beings on earth were the same. They were mere animals to be defeated militarily, captured, enslaved, raped, killed or taxed. The transformational liberty Jesus created on earth slowly gave birth to Christianity, the Reformation, Enlightenment, and finally the American Revolution. To this day Republicans stand to limit Caesarian liberal statist govt and maintain or increase liberty , while Democrats oppose this basic trajectory of Western Civilization every step of the way!

Yeah.... Nope. If Jesus were real and alive today and actually believed all that stuff in the Bible he'd be extremely pissed at republicans in general and the religious right in particular.

I predict a righteous smiting!

So when you are proven a false prophet s should we stone you?

 

[Avatar4321]

Jesus was crucified by Republicans

that makes no sense

 

[Avatar4321]

Was Jesus the First Republican?

Sure he was. He created individual liberty on earth. He was a powerful common man who liberated other common men from earthly liberal rulers such as Caesar. He taught that each individual person was loved by God and had an individual relationship with God that was based on his free will and individual behavior toward other people and toward God.. This was opposite to liberal statist Rome wherein all human beings on earth were the same. They were mere animals to be defeated militarily, captured, enslaved, raped, killed or taxed. The transformational liberty Jesus created on earth slowly gave birth to Christianity, the Reformation, Enlightenment, and finally the American Revolution. To this day Republicans stand to limit Caesarian liberal statist govt and maintain or increase liberty , while Democrats oppose this basic trajectory of Western Civilization every step of the way!

The delusion of Republicans knows no bounds.

Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of Heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn: for they will be comforted.
Blessed are the meek: for they will inherit the earth.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness: for they will be filled.
Blessed are the merciful: for they will be shown mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart: for they will see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they will be called children of God.
Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

Yeah, sounds like a Republican to me.

And I suggest you study your Roman History. The Roman empire did not believe all people were the same. Ever hear of Sparticus?

actually it does sounds more like republican. Each one of those beattitudes is a responsibility. Jesus is teaching individuals to be responsible in their lives and not telling them to demand government do those things

Well, it is teaching people not to be total asshats, which of course most on the Right can't exist without.

I'm fairly sure we could exist quite well without progressives

 

[Avatar4321]

Jesus was crucified by Republicans

oh no, Jesus was crucified by Democrats!

( this is considered meaningful debate exchange to a liberal)

Romans were Republicans

they were an empire.

 

[gipper]

Was Jesus the First Republican?

Sure he was. He created individual liberty on earth. He was a powerful common man who liberated other common men from earthly liberal rulers such as Caesar. He taught that each individual person was loved by God and had an individual relationship with God that was based on his free will and individual behavior toward other people and toward God.. This was opposite to liberal statist Rome wherein all human beings on earth were the same. They were mere animals to be defeated militarily, captured, enslaved, raped, killed or taxed. The transformational liberty Jesus created on earth slowly gave birth to Christianity, the Reformation, Enlightenment, and finally the American Revolution. To this day Republicans stand to limit Caesarian liberal statist govt and maintain or increase liberty , while Democrats oppose this basic trajectory of Western Civilization every step of the way!

You know you have a problem when you see everything in terms of Republicans and Democrats.

Rs suck just as much as Ds. If only all Americans would know this.

 

[Crepitus]

Yeah.... Nope. If Jesus were real and alive today and actually believed all that stuff in the Bible he'd be extremely pissed at republicans in general and the religious right in particular.

I predict a righteous smiting!

can you put into words why you think he'd be upset??

Lol, Jesus was always on the side of the poor and exploited. Jesus was a refugee. Love thy neighbor doesn't just mean the white ones, or even just the american ones. That's just a few.

 

[Crepitus]

Was Jesus the First Republican?

Sure he was. He created individual liberty on earth. He was a powerful common man who liberated other common men from earthly liberal rulers such as Caesar. He taught that each individual person was loved by God and had an individual relationship with God that was based on his free will and individual behavior toward other people and toward God.. This was opposite to liberal statist Rome wherein all human beings on earth were the same. They were mere animals to be defeated militarily, captured, enslaved, raped, killed or taxed. The transformational liberty Jesus created on earth slowly gave birth to Christianity, the Reformation, Enlightenment, and finally the American Revolution. To this day Republicans stand to limit Caesarian liberal statist govt and maintain or increase liberty , while Democrats oppose this basic trajectory of Western Civilization every step of the way!

Yeah.... Nope. If Jesus were real and alive today and actually believed all that stuff in the Bible he'd be extremely pissed at republicans in general and the religious right in particular.

I predict a righteous smiting!

So when you are proven a false prophet s should we stone you?

Huh?

 

[Crepitus]

Was Jesus the First Republican?

Sure he was. He created individual liberty on earth. He was a powerful common man who liberated other common men from earthly liberal rulers such as Caesar. He taught that each individual person was loved by God and had an individual relationship with God that was based on his free will and individual behavior toward other people and toward God.. This was opposite to liberal statist Rome wherein all human beings on earth were the same. They were mere animals to be defeated militarily, captured, enslaved, raped, killed or taxed. The transformational liberty Jesus created on earth slowly gave birth to Christianity, the Reformation, Enlightenment, and finally the American Revolution. To this day Republicans stand to limit Caesarian liberal statist govt and maintain or increase liberty , while Democrats oppose this basic trajectory of Western Civilization every step of the way!

The delusion of Republicans knows no bounds.

Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of Heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn: for they will be comforted.
Blessed are the meek: for they will inherit the earth.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness: for they will be filled.
Blessed are the merciful: for they will be shown mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart: for they will see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they will be called children of God.
Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

Yeah, sounds like a Republican to me.

And I suggest you study your Roman History. The Roman empire did not believe all people were the same. Ever hear of Sparticus?

actually it does sounds more like republican. Each one of those beattitudes is a responsibility. Jesus is teaching individuals to be responsible in their lives and not telling them to demand government do those things

Well, it is teaching people not to be total asshats, which of course most on the Right can't exist without.

I'm fairly sure we could exist quite well without progressives

Pretty sure you're wrong. Now conservatives, when have they ever done anything useful?

 

[Natural Citizen]

Was Jesus the First Republican?

Sure he was. He created individual liberty on earth. He was a powerful common man who liberated other common men from earthly liberal rulers such as Caesar. He taught that each individual person was loved by God and had an individual relationship with God that was based on his free will and individual behavior toward other people and toward God.. This was opposite to liberal statist Rome wherein all human beings on earth were the same. They were mere animals to be defeated militarily, captured, enslaved, raped, killed or taxed. The transformational liberty Jesus created on earth slowly gave birth to Christianity, the Reformation, Enlightenment, and finally the American Revolution. To this day Republicans stand to limit Caesarian liberal statist govt and maintain or increase liberty , while Democrats oppose this basic trajectory of Western Civilization every step of the way!

Why would you relate Republicans with Individual liberty?

Because of the two parties they are bigger on individual liberties.

course that's only the conservative wing of the party

Most so-called conservatives in America today are rabid statists. They just don't realize it. They do not realize it because they do not understand liberty.

Though, you do get a few refuseniks here and there.