Warmer Springs...

[flacaltenn]

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Lake Mead

In slightly longer than a decade, Nevada's Lake Mead — which sits down river from Lake Powell on the Colorado River — has seen its total volume drop by more than 60 percent. Persistant drought and increased demand have wreaked havoc on water levels, sometimes draining three feet of depth in a month. Now, the lake is listed at about 1,100 feet above sea level, a foot below the previous all-time low set in 1937. With demand not letting up and climate change warming things up, it doesn't look good for Lake Mead. Water managers have the option of releasing water from Lake Powell to raise Lake Mead, but that doesn't solve the problem of not having enough water in the system in the first place

7 lakes and rivers that are drying up: Lake Mead | MNN - Mother Nature Network

Yeah? So? Lake Mead has been that low before as you would have figured out had you done a simple search so once again this is nothing new.


* Lake Mead Water Levels

Don't you sometimes feel cheated when GoldiRocks sends us on these wild goose chases because he's panicky and scared and there's NOT a monster under the bed? Can we split the cost for a night light??

Ever wonder where the water in Lake Mead has gone?

It went HERE !!!

AND HERE !!!

Somehow GoldiRocks doesn't get the function of a man-made water reservoir and seems to think that opening and closing the gate has less of an effect than the 1 degF rise in temp we've seen since we were born.. But that's because he reads scary stories from Mother Earth News before bedtime..

Low Water - Lake Mead National Recreation Area

As a resevoir, Lake Mead is designed to fluctuate in order to provide the southwest with a reliable source of water during times of drought, such as is being experienced now.

In some years, Lake Mead receives much more than the minimum amount of water from the Upper Basin, but the amount of water released from Lake Mead does not vary much from year to year. The water level in Lake Mead is lower than it has been in over 40 years. The water is going down because the Colorado River runoff over the last decade starting in 1998 has been far below normal.

Water: Lake Mead Is at Record Low Levels. Is the Southwest Drying Up? | TIME.com


What’s causing Lake Mead to dry up—and what does it mean for the Southwest? The one undeniable cause is simple growth—Las Vegas has grown from 25,000 people in 1950 to some 2 million today. That means more lawns, more laundry, more swimming pools, more car washes—in general, more straws sucking the water out of Lake Mead. And of course Las Vegas isn’t the only area in the Southwest to experience booming growth over the past few decades. From Denver to Phoenix to Los Angeles, the once lightly populated West has exploded, even as farmers in the region draw more water from the system to irrigate the desert.


But the scary thing is that the territory might be more vulnerable to drought than it seemed during the 20th century—a time period that may have been unusually wet on a historical scale. A 2007 panel organized by the National Research Council found evidence that mega-droughts had occurred in the Southwest more frequently than had been thought, and that “drought episodes are a recurrent and integral feature of the region’s climate.”

Then there’s climate change, an X factor for future water supplies. It’s difficult to gauge what impact, if any, global warming may have had on the current drought and on dropping water levels. As always, it’s virtually impossible to filter out climate change as a cause for a natural disaster amid all the noise and static of other factors. But as the recent report from the government U.S. Global Change Research Program shows, the Southwest is already rapidly warming, reducing the spring mountain snowpack that helps feed the rivers of the region. We’re likely to see increasing temperatures in the future, with more frequent drought and increasingly scarce water supplies. (See the rather alarming graph above.) Climate change won’t be the only cause behind the drying of the West, but could make a bad situation much, much worse.

Ahhhh yes the US Global Change Research Program with it "warming rapidly" assfarts. Even tho "it’s virtually impossible to filter out climate change as a cause for a natural disaster amid all the noise and static of other factors."

Like those Las Vegas attractions above.. But GOLDIROCKS can hear it coming....

 

[Trakar]

Earth had 3rd-warmest May on record
Earth had 3rd-warmest May on record

WSU AgWeatherNet
Warm spring concludes with historic May weather
WSU News Center - Warm spring concludes with historic May weather

 

[westwall]

Earth had 3rd-warmest May on record
Earth had 3rd-warmest May on record

WSU AgWeatherNet
Warm spring concludes with historic May weather
WSU News Center - Warm spring concludes with historic May weather

Meanwhile in the real world...in an area the warmists claim is the "canary in the coal mine" Nenana witnessed the latest ice breakup ever recorded.



Barrow Sea Ice Break Up

Barrow Sea Ice Webcam

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX0YB1AIYLA]Nenana Ice Classic 2013 Breakup - Latest on Record May 20 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Trakar]

Earth had 3rd-warmest May on record
Earth had 3rd-warmest May on record

WSU AgWeatherNet
Warm spring concludes with historic May weather
WSU News Center - Warm spring concludes with historic May weather

Meanwhile in the real world...in an area the warmists claim is the "canary in the coal mine" Nenana witnessed the latest ice breakup ever recorded.

Barrow Sea Ice Break Up

Barrow Sea Ice Webcam

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX0YB1AIYLA"]Nenana Ice Classic 2013 Breakup - Latest on Record May 20 - YouTube[/ame]

You feel that this has relevance to this thread how?

May Global Temps Third Warmest on Record | NOAA Climate.gov

 

[westwall]

Earth had 3rd-warmest May on record
Earth had 3rd-warmest May on record

WSU AgWeatherNet
Warm spring concludes with historic May weather
WSU News Center - Warm spring concludes with historic May weather

Meanwhile in the real world...in an area the warmists claim is the "canary in the coal mine" Nenana witnessed the latest ice breakup ever recorded.

Barrow Sea Ice Break Up

Barrow Sea Ice Webcam

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX0YB1AIYLA"]Nenana Ice Classic 2013 Breakup - Latest on Record May 20 - YouTube[/ame]

You feel that this has relevance to this thread how?

May Global Temps Third Warmest on Record | NOAA Climate.gov

You feel your inane thread has relevance to the physical world? How?

 

[Trakar]

Meanwhile in the real world...in an area the warmists claim is the "canary in the coal mine" Nenana witnessed the latest ice breakup ever recorded.

Barrow Sea Ice Break Up

Barrow Sea Ice Webcam

Nenana Ice Classic 2013 Breakup - Latest on Record May 20 - YouTube

You feel that this has relevance to this thread how?

May Global Temps Third Warmest on Record | NOAA Climate.gov

You feel your inane thread has relevance to the physical world? How?

It is in accord with all physical evidence and mainstream understanding regarding reality as it is objectively observed, recorded and interrelated.

 

[mamooth]

In 2012, the USDA revised their plant hardiness zone maps to take into account newer temperature data.

What's New | USDA Plant Hardiness Zone Map
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The new PHZM is generally one half-zone warmer than the previous PHZM throughout much of the United States, as a result of a more recent averaging period (1974–1986 vs. 1976–2005).
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That would be more of that warming that supposedly doesn't exist. Or maybe the USDA is in on the big conspiracy too. The conspiracy truly is vast and all-encompassing.

 

[skookerasbil]

In 2012, the USDA revised their plant hardiness zone maps to take into account newer temperature data.

What's New | USDA Plant Hardiness Zone Map
---
The new PHZM is generally one half-zone warmer than the previous PHZM throughout much of the United States, as a result of a more recent averaging period (1974–1986 vs. 1976–2005).
---

That would be more of that warming that supposedly doesn't exist. Or maybe the USDA is in on the big conspiracy too. The conspiracy truly is vast and all-encompassing.

Nobody cares..........

Global surveys show environmental concerns rank low among public concerns


Only the climate crusader OCD's are sitting home shitting their pants about this stuff








I LOVE THIS FORUM

 

[gslack]

Warmer Springs Causing Loss of Snow Cover throughout the Rocky Mountains
Released: 5/13/2013 2:00:00 PM
Contact Information:
U.S. Department of the Interior, U.S. Geological Survey
Office of Communications and Publishing
12201 Sunrise Valley Dr, MS 119
Reston, VA 20192
Greg Pederson http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/[email protected]&n=Greg+Pederson
Phone: 406-994-7390

Paul Laustsen http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/[email protected]&n=Paul++Laustsen
Phone: 650-329-4046


In partnership with: American Geophysical Union

…The new study has teased apart and quantified the different influences of winter temperature, spring temperature, and precipitation on historic snowpack variations and trends in the region. To distinguish those varying influences, the researchers implemented a regional snow model that uses inputs of monthly temperature and precipitation data from 1895 to 2011.
"Each year we looked at temperature and precipitation variations and the amount of water contained within the snowpack as of April," said USGS scientist Greg Pederson, the lead author of the study. "Snow deficits were consistent throughout the Rockies due to the lack of precipitation during the cool seasons during the 1930s – coinciding with the Dust Bowl era. From 1980 on, warmer spring temperatures melted snowpack throughout the Rockies early, regardless of winter precipitation. The model in turn shows temperature as the major driving factor in snowpack declines over the past thirty years."
Runoff from Rocky Mountain winter snowpack accounts for 60 to 80 percent of the annual water supply for more than 70 million people living in the western U.S., and is influenced by factors such as the snowpack’s water content, known as snow water equivalent, and the timing of snowmelt…
The study, "Regional patterns and proximal causes of the recent snowpack decline in the Rocky Mountains," is available from Geophysical Research Letters, a journal of the American Geophysical Union.

The whole thing summed up in this one line from your article..

""Both natural variability in temperature and anthropogenic warming have contributed to the recent snowpack decline, though disentangling their influences exactly remains elusive." Betancourt said,"

Yeah, so all that hyperbole and all we need to know is exactly what we already knew and that is they just don't know what's caused by natural variability or man.. SO they just don't know really... LOL, the media spin it how they want and you tools miss the whole point because you are positive it's caused by man anyway..

They say they don't know but all you see is warming and go nuts and the media feeds your silliness.. You people need help..

 

[westwall]

You feel that this has relevance to this thread how?

May Global Temps Third Warmest on Record | NOAA Climate.gov

You feel your inane thread has relevance to the physical world? How?

It is in accord with all physical evidence and mainstream understanding regarding reality as it is objectively observed, recorded and interrelated.

It is? Show us how this is so. The claim that spring will come earlier and earlier isn't born out by fact and in the one area that the warmists claimed would be the most severely impacted by warmer springs the exact opposite is true, they have witnessed exceptionally harsh winters over the last few years and spring has been arriving ever later.

Once again the claims of the warmists fall apart in the harsh light of the real world. So, I say again. Give us some MEASURABLE metric that we can check vs the historical record that backs up your claim.

So far all we have are crickets. You claim to be all "sciencey", be a scientist, show us something measurable.

 

[westwall]

In 2012, the USDA revised their plant hardiness zone maps to take into account newer temperature data.

What's New | USDA Plant Hardiness Zone Map
---
The new PHZM is generally one half-zone warmer than the previous PHZM throughout much of the United States, as a result of a more recent averaging period (1974–1986 vs. 1976–2005).
---

That would be more of that warming that supposedly doesn't exist. Or maybe the USDA is in on the big conspiracy too. The conspiracy truly is vast and all-encompassing.

Yeah? So? They are a government entity, they take years to correct errors. You expect us to care what THEY say? Here in the real world the veggies that we have planted are behind the growing season because we are still far below the average temperature. Have been for weeks.