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Would we have so many "violent gun offenders" if you didn`t help them acquire guns?What`s the big deal? Scalise didn`t mind getting shot at the baseball game. He`s still owned by the NRA.
What he did mind is the fact that several members of the baseball team had concealed carry permits for guns that they couldn't carry because of democrat gun free zone guns. If Scalise hadn't been there with his security detail, no one would have been there with a gun to shoot the attacker.... those gun free zones are on the democrats and the gun murder rate in this country is also on the democrats who refuse to keep violent gun offenders in jail.
Criminals steal guns or get people to break the law to get guns, and then, when they are caught, the democrats let them out again and again...... the only ones driving the gun crime rate in the U.S. is the democrat party.
Your claim that criminals only get guns by criminal means is pretty stupid.
No, it isn't, they can't legally buy, own or carry guns because they are criminals. That means, doofus.... if they buy any gun, from anyone, they are doing so illegally, you moron.
Would we have so many "violent gun offenders" if you didn`t help them acquire guns?What he did mind is the fact that several members of the baseball team had concealed carry permits for guns that they couldn't carry because of democrat gun free zone guns. If Scalise hadn't been there with his security detail, no one would have been there with a gun to shoot the attacker.... those gun free zones are on the democrats and the gun murder rate in this country is also on the democrats who refuse to keep violent gun offenders in jail.
Criminals steal guns or get people to break the law to get guns, and then, when they are caught, the democrats let them out again and again...... the only ones driving the gun crime rate in the U.S. is the democrat party.
Your claim that criminals only get guns by criminal means is pretty stupid.
No, it isn't, they can't legally buy, own or carry guns because they are criminals. That means, doofus.... if they buy any gun, from anyone, they are doing so illegally, you moron.
Such a dumb statement. You think the only thugs are the ones who have lost their right to own guns. Without universal background checks, anybody can buy all the guns they want with no problem.
Would we have so many "violent gun offenders" if you didn`t help them acquire guns?
Criminals steal guns or get people to break the law to get guns, and then, when they are caught, the democrats let them out again and again...... the only ones driving the gun crime rate in the U.S. is the democrat party.
Your claim that criminals only get guns by criminal means is pretty stupid.
No, it isn't, they can't legally buy, own or carry guns because they are criminals. That means, doofus.... if they buy any gun, from anyone, they are doing so illegally, you moron.
Such a dumb statement. You think the only thugs are the ones who have lost their right to own guns. Without universal background checks, anybody can buy all the guns they want with no problem.
Universal Background Checks won't stop criminals and you never can show why you think they would. Criminals who murdered 11,004 people in 2016 had no problem getting guns with current, federally mandated background checks, so universal background checks won't slow them down.
What universal checks do? They allow morons like you to register guns so you can confiscate them later.
Well that’s the only way they can, because it’s illegal for violent criminals to own firearmsWould we have so many "violent gun offenders" if you didn`t help them acquire guns?What`s the big deal? Scalise didn`t mind getting shot at the baseball game. He`s still owned by the NRA.Yes...tell that to the Republican baseball team when the left wing, democrat, bernie sanders supporter tried to murder them.......
What he did mind is the fact that several members of the baseball team had concealed carry permits for guns that they couldn't carry because of democrat gun free zone guns. If Scalise hadn't been there with his security detail, no one would have been there with a gun to shoot the attacker.... those gun free zones are on the democrats and the gun murder rate in this country is also on the democrats who refuse to keep violent gun offenders in jail.
Criminals steal guns or get people to break the law to get guns, and then, when they are caught, the democrats let them out again and again...... the only ones driving the gun crime rate in the U.S. is the democrat party.
Your claim that criminals only get guns by criminal means is pretty stupid.
You don't know shit about the latter eitherShows you know nothing about concealed carry
You're right. I don't know a lot about the rules of concealed carry. I do know a lot about many of the Rambo wannabeees who conceal carry 24/7.
You are probably around people carrying every day and are none the wiser
Hard not to know when they take them out and play with them.
And you see that happen all the time right?
Face it there are people you will see today that are carrying and you'll be as ignorant of that fact as you are a multitude of others
At least a few CC holders follow the rules, and would never see a gun as a fashion statement or a political statement. How comforting.
Well that’s the only way they can, because it’s illegal for violent criminals to own firearmsWould we have so many "violent gun offenders" if you didn`t help them acquire guns?What`s the big deal? Scalise didn`t mind getting shot at the baseball game. He`s still owned by the NRA.
What he did mind is the fact that several members of the baseball team had concealed carry permits for guns that they couldn't carry because of democrat gun free zone guns. If Scalise hadn't been there with his security detail, no one would have been there with a gun to shoot the attacker.... those gun free zones are on the democrats and the gun murder rate in this country is also on the democrats who refuse to keep violent gun offenders in jail.
Criminals steal guns or get people to break the law to get guns, and then, when they are caught, the democrats let them out again and again...... the only ones driving the gun crime rate in the U.S. is the democrat party.
Your claim that criminals only get guns by criminal means is pretty stupid.
You don't know shit about the latter eitherYou're right. I don't know a lot about the rules of concealed carry. I do know a lot about many of the Rambo wannabeees who conceal carry 24/7.
You are probably around people carrying every day and are none the wiser
Hard not to know when they take them out and play with them.
And you see that happen all the time right?
Face it there are people you will see today that are carrying and you'll be as ignorant of that fact as you are a multitude of others
At least a few CC holders follow the rules, and would never see a gun as a fashion statement or a political statement. How comforting.
I know you're still scared of guns even if you can't see them
Then why does the UK have twice as many rape and assault victims per capita than the US?When you discuss gun self defense here on U.S.messageboard, the anti gunners call anyone who carries a gun for self defense cowards, and various other names...."What, you can't go outside without a gun, what kind of wimp, coward, are you." And then you get the " no one in my family has ever, ever been a victim of crime so no one should ever be allowed to carry or own a gun for self defense since because no one in my family has ever, ever been a victim of any crime, it is obvious that no one ever, anywhere in this country needs a gun for self defense...."
And then something like this happens.....
Video: Armed citizen effectively defends family in Houston
Investigators said it all started when the man’s wife pulled into their driveway Tuesday night. Then the two armed suspects jumped out and tried to rob her.
First, they took her purse, and then they tried to force her into the house. However, that is when her husband showed up.
He heard the commotion from inside, grabbed his gun and ended up exchanging gunfire with the intruders. Fortunately, the couple weren’t hit, but one of the suspects was hit in the head, police said. The other suspect took off running.
“One can only imagine what was going through their mind,” Choi added. I’d guess it was something along the lines of thank goodness we could effectively defend ourselves. The victims should be thankful to live in a state that doesn’t go out of its way to interfere with that right, too.
A good guy with a gun not only stopped a bad guy with a gun, but he almost certainly saved lives, starting with his own. Opponents of the individual right to bear arms usually dismiss these scenarios as improbable, if not entirely theoretical. That’s why it’s well worth highlighting such incidents when they occur, even if they largely speak for themselves.
And with guns, the US is a more violent place.
Great.
Then why does the UK have twice as many rape and assault victims per capita than the US?When you discuss gun self defense here on U.S.messageboard, the anti gunners call anyone who carries a gun for self defense cowards, and various other names...."What, you can't go outside without a gun, what kind of wimp, coward, are you." And then you get the " no one in my family has ever, ever been a victim of crime so no one should ever be allowed to carry or own a gun for self defense since because no one in my family has ever, ever been a victim of any crime, it is obvious that no one ever, anywhere in this country needs a gun for self defense...."
And then something like this happens.....
Video: Armed citizen effectively defends family in Houston
Investigators said it all started when the man’s wife pulled into their driveway Tuesday night. Then the two armed suspects jumped out and tried to rob her.
First, they took her purse, and then they tried to force her into the house. However, that is when her husband showed up.
He heard the commotion from inside, grabbed his gun and ended up exchanging gunfire with the intruders. Fortunately, the couple weren’t hit, but one of the suspects was hit in the head, police said. The other suspect took off running.
“One can only imagine what was going through their mind,” Choi added. I’d guess it was something along the lines of thank goodness we could effectively defend ourselves. The victims should be thankful to live in a state that doesn’t go out of its way to interfere with that right, too.
A good guy with a gun not only stopped a bad guy with a gun, but he almost certainly saved lives, starting with his own. Opponents of the individual right to bear arms usually dismiss these scenarios as improbable, if not entirely theoretical. That’s why it’s well worth highlighting such incidents when they occur, even if they largely speak for themselves.
And with guns, the US is a more violent place.
Great.
According to Politifact:
Social media post says U.K. has far higher violent crime rate than U.S. does
The meme said "there are over 2,000 crimes recorded per 100,000 population in the U.K.," compared to "466 violent crimes per 100,000" in the United States. Our preliminary attempt to make an apples-to-apples comparison shows a much smaller difference in violent crime rates between the two countries, but criminologists say differences in how the statistics are collected make it impossible to produce a truly valid comparison. We rate the claim False.
It's pretty well known in the US that less than half of all rapes are not reported. I won't go as far as one report that claimed it was as low as one in 4 but it's pretty low. There is no way of us knowing how many rapes in Britain go unreported. But if it follows the assault reports, it's going to be a much higher percentage than the US. Reason comes into play here. I doubt if there really is much difference in the rate between the two countries and there is no real way to prove one way or the other.
Criminals steal guns or get people to break the law to get guns, and then, when they are caught, the democrats let them out again and again...... the only ones driving the gun crime rate in the U.S. is the democrat party.
Your claim that criminals only get guns by criminal means is pretty stupid.
No, it isn't, they can't legally buy, own or carry guns because they are criminals. That means, doofus.... if they buy any gun, from anyone, they are doing so illegally, you moron.
Such a dumb statement. You think the only thugs are the ones who have lost their right to own guns. Without universal background checks, anybody can buy all the guns they want with no problem.
Universal Background Checks won't stop criminals and you never can show why you think they would. Criminals who murdered 11,004 people in 2016 had no problem getting guns with current, federally mandated background checks, so universal background checks won't slow them down.
What universal checks do? They allow morons like you to register guns so you can confiscate them later.
Yes, that is your talking point. Stupid, and wrong, but your talking point still.
A good guy died because the bad guy had a gun. If the good guy had a gun it wouldn`t have made any difference.
A new father was fatally shot after confronting a man who hurled the n-word at his friend, police say
Shows you know nothing about concealed carryProgressives do not get to say what other people do with their firearm ownership^^^^^^^^^^Advice from a coward^^^^^^^^^
We shall see won't we?
What will you do if you are the victim of a home invasion?
Oh wait I know you'll piss you pants and watch your family members be brutalized
I'm not opposed to guns, and certainly not against using them to defend your home. Invade my home, one of us is getting shot. Doesn't mean I'm going to hide behind a gun every minute of every day. Coward.
You're right. You hide behind that gun all you think you need to.------coward.
Well that’s the only way they can, because it’s illegal for violent criminals to own firearmsWould we have so many "violent gun offenders" if you didn`t help them acquire guns?What he did mind is the fact that several members of the baseball team had concealed carry permits for guns that they couldn't carry because of democrat gun free zone guns. If Scalise hadn't been there with his security detail, no one would have been there with a gun to shoot the attacker.... those gun free zones are on the democrats and the gun murder rate in this country is also on the democrats who refuse to keep violent gun offenders in jail.
Criminals steal guns or get people to break the law to get guns, and then, when they are caught, the democrats let them out again and again...... the only ones driving the gun crime rate in the U.S. is the democrat party.
Your claim that criminals only get guns by criminal means is pretty stupid.
I've yet to be shown why bad guys don't buy guns from strangers who aren't required to have background checks performed on the people who buy their guns. That is the gun nut claim, but never any proof.
Shows you know nothing about concealed carryProgressives do not get to say what other people do with their firearm ownershipWe shall see won't we?
What will you do if you are the victim of a home invasion?
Oh wait I know you'll piss you pants and watch your family members be brutalized
I'm not opposed to guns, and certainly not against using them to defend your home. Invade my home, one of us is getting shot. Doesn't mean I'm going to hide behind a gun every minute of every day. Coward.
You're right. You hide behind that gun all you think you need to.------coward.
Stay within the law in your responses. Not everyone can get a CCW. Even if it's your right, it might be almost impossible to get it due to many reasons. You are back to saying everyone is safer if they are armed. So let's look at some history of our nation. And we are NOT any more civilized today than before.
Due to the duels and gun fights, Congress barred guns from their buildings and only allowed security people to be armed. They also barred duels involving any member of congress or their staff. This also included the Executive Branch. There were too many arguments being settled with firearms.
In 1871, many western towns and cities barred carrying firearms inside of city limits. This included concealed weapons but they didn't look too closely for those. If you pulled your concealed weapon and used it, you were generally hung for murder. If you think the shootout at the OK Corral was about Ruselers V Law, you would be wrong. The Earps entered what they thought was going to be a civil meeting with their guns pointed down. It was about the Cowboys demanding to wear their guns inside of city limits. The Clantons and McCloweries opened fire first and the smoke flew. In some towns, you got one warning. The next warning, the Marshals didn't wait. They just shot you dead when they saw you with your gun. These others didn't make the penny dreadfulls since neither party was as famous as the Earps. It wasn't too long that the Wild Wild West wasn't wild anymore. The Cowboys no longer shot up the towns and killed innocent people with stray shots and damaged private property with their bullets. But it was pretty wild from 1866 to 1870 though. The Wild Wild West lasted only 4 years. Even the Indian Wars were winding down.
There has been common sense gun controls in the country since almost the day it was created. And not so common sense from the very early days. And some not so common sense ones that were thrown out starting in 1869. What's happened is we have forgotten those common sense gun regulations and have tried to turn it back to the Wild Wild West. And we are still just not any more civilized to do that.
Your claim that criminals only get guns by criminal means is pretty stupid.
No, it isn't, they can't legally buy, own or carry guns because they are criminals. That means, doofus.... if they buy any gun, from anyone, they are doing so illegally, you moron.
Such a dumb statement. You think the only thugs are the ones who have lost their right to own guns. Without universal background checks, anybody can buy all the guns they want with no problem.
Universal Background Checks won't stop criminals and you never can show why you think they would. Criminals who murdered 11,004 people in 2016 had no problem getting guns with current, federally mandated background checks, so universal background checks won't slow them down.
What universal checks do? They allow morons like you to register guns so you can confiscate them later.
Yes, that is your talking point. Stupid, and wrong, but your talking point still.
You haven't been able to show it is wrong but you keep pretending that you have..... you are a moron.
No, it isn't, they can't legally buy, own or carry guns because they are criminals. That means, doofus.... if they buy any gun, from anyone, they are doing so illegally, you moron.
Such a dumb statement. You think the only thugs are the ones who have lost their right to own guns. Without universal background checks, anybody can buy all the guns they want with no problem.
Universal Background Checks won't stop criminals and you never can show why you think they would. Criminals who murdered 11,004 people in 2016 had no problem getting guns with current, federally mandated background checks, so universal background checks won't slow them down.
What universal checks do? They allow morons like you to register guns so you can confiscate them later.
Yes, that is your talking point. Stupid, and wrong, but your talking point still.
You haven't been able to show it is wrong but you keep pretending that you have..... you are a moron.
Yes, we are coming for your guns. All of your guns. We are coming in black choppers in the dead of the night, all dressed in black with our faces painted black. We have already put in the cameras in your house, in your bedroom and even your bathroom. We know when you are sleeping and hacked the codes of your security system. When you weren't there, we replaced your dogs with our own highly trained dogs who act exactly like yours. We may wait until you are in deep sleep or taking a good healthy crap when we come in. So sleep tight, have a loose sphincter.
Of course, we are only coming for your guns but I get to keep mine and so do the majority of the rest of America.
Shows you know nothing about concealed carryProgressives do not get to say what other people do with their firearm ownershipI'm not opposed to guns, and certainly not against using them to defend your home. Invade my home, one of us is getting shot. Doesn't mean I'm going to hide behind a gun every minute of every day. Coward.
You're right. You hide behind that gun all you think you need to.------coward.
Stay within the law in your responses. Not everyone can get a CCW. Even if it's your right, it might be almost impossible to get it due to many reasons. You are back to saying everyone is safer if they are armed. So let's look at some history of our nation. And we are NOT any more civilized today than before.
Due to the duels and gun fights, Congress barred guns from their buildings and only allowed security people to be armed. They also barred duels involving any member of congress or their staff. This also included the Executive Branch. There were too many arguments being settled with firearms.
In 1871, many western towns and cities barred carrying firearms inside of city limits. This included concealed weapons but they didn't look too closely for those. If you pulled your concealed weapon and used it, you were generally hung for murder. If you think the shootout at the OK Corral was about Ruselers V Law, you would be wrong. The Earps entered what they thought was going to be a civil meeting with their guns pointed down. It was about the Cowboys demanding to wear their guns inside of city limits. The Clantons and McCloweries opened fire first and the smoke flew. In some towns, you got one warning. The next warning, the Marshals didn't wait. They just shot you dead when they saw you with your gun. These others didn't make the penny dreadfulls since neither party was as famous as the Earps. It wasn't too long that the Wild Wild West wasn't wild anymore. The Cowboys no longer shot up the towns and killed innocent people with stray shots and damaged private property with their bullets. But it was pretty wild from 1866 to 1870 though. The Wild Wild West lasted only 4 years. Even the Indian Wars were winding down.
There has been common sense gun controls in the country since almost the day it was created. And not so common sense from the very early days. And some not so common sense ones that were thrown out starting in 1869. What's happened is we have forgotten those common sense gun regulations and have tried to turn it back to the Wild Wild West. And we are still just not any more civilized to do that.
You don't know what you are talking about..... gun control laws in those few western towns didn't work....as the fact that one Earp was shot to death and the other Earp was maimed...by criminals using guns in their gun controlled towns....
You don't know what you are talking about....and Doc Holiday completely ignored the gun control laws...
Shows you know nothing about concealed carryProgressives do not get to say what other people do with their firearm ownership
You're right. You hide behind that gun all you think you need to.------coward.
Stay within the law in your responses. Not everyone can get a CCW. Even if it's your right, it might be almost impossible to get it due to many reasons. You are back to saying everyone is safer if they are armed. So let's look at some history of our nation. And we are NOT any more civilized today than before.
Due to the duels and gun fights, Congress barred guns from their buildings and only allowed security people to be armed. They also barred duels involving any member of congress or their staff. This also included the Executive Branch. There were too many arguments being settled with firearms.
In 1871, many western towns and cities barred carrying firearms inside of city limits. This included concealed weapons but they didn't look too closely for those. If you pulled your concealed weapon and used it, you were generally hung for murder. If you think the shootout at the OK Corral was about Ruselers V Law, you would be wrong. The Earps entered what they thought was going to be a civil meeting with their guns pointed down. It was about the Cowboys demanding to wear their guns inside of city limits. The Clantons and McCloweries opened fire first and the smoke flew. In some towns, you got one warning. The next warning, the Marshals didn't wait. They just shot you dead when they saw you with your gun. These others didn't make the penny dreadfulls since neither party was as famous as the Earps. It wasn't too long that the Wild Wild West wasn't wild anymore. The Cowboys no longer shot up the towns and killed innocent people with stray shots and damaged private property with their bullets. But it was pretty wild from 1866 to 1870 though. The Wild Wild West lasted only 4 years. Even the Indian Wars were winding down.
There has been common sense gun controls in the country since almost the day it was created. And not so common sense from the very early days. And some not so common sense ones that were thrown out starting in 1869. What's happened is we have forgotten those common sense gun regulations and have tried to turn it back to the Wild Wild West. And we are still just not any more civilized to do that.
You don't know what you are talking about..... gun control laws in those few western towns didn't work....as the fact that one Earp was shot to death and the other Earp was maimed...by criminals using guns in their gun controlled towns....
You don't know what you are talking about....and Doc Holiday completely ignored the gun control laws...
Doc Holiday normally carried a concealed weapon. The Earps overlooked that although it was against the ordinance. Most residents of any given city carried concealed weapons and were overlooked. The Marshals didn't go out of their way to frisk people to look for guns. And it worked well. After that shooting, people stopped at city limits and religiously checked the sidearms. I suggest you watch a parody called "A Million Ways to Die in the West". it's not far off.
Such a dumb statement. You think the only thugs are the ones who have lost their right to own guns. Without universal background checks, anybody can buy all the guns they want with no problem.
Universal Background Checks won't stop criminals and you never can show why you think they would. Criminals who murdered 11,004 people in 2016 had no problem getting guns with current, federally mandated background checks, so universal background checks won't slow them down.
What universal checks do? They allow morons like you to register guns so you can confiscate them later.
Yes, that is your talking point. Stupid, and wrong, but your talking point still.
You haven't been able to show it is wrong but you keep pretending that you have..... you are a moron.
Yes, we are coming for your guns. All of your guns. We are coming in black choppers in the dead of the night, all dressed in black with our faces painted black. We have already put in the cameras in your house, in your bedroom and even your bathroom. We know when you are sleeping and hacked the codes of your security system. When you weren't there, we replaced your dogs with our own highly trained dogs who act exactly like yours. We may wait until you are in deep sleep or taking a good healthy crap when we come in. So sleep tight, have a loose sphincter.
Of course, we are only coming for your guns but I get to keep mine and so do the majority of the rest of America.
At the 1:58 mark on the video, your buddies finally can't keep the lie going anymore and admit they want to ban all semi automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns...and in truth, all guns....
