US hypocrisy of democracy

[frigidweirdo]

Note, this topic is not about Cuba.

A new dawn for Cuba? The draft constitution explained


"Dear Donald Trump: A letter from Cuba
"The US objection, the Trump administration's objection, to Cuba is that it's not a multi-party democracy like the United States and the Cuban constitution doesn't change that, in fact the new constitution reaffirms the single-party system with the Communist Party in the leading role," said William LeoGrande, a professor in the School of Public Affairs at the American University."

So, the Trump administration which was not elected through much in the way of democracy, in a system which limits political parties, is complaining about a country with a system that doesn't have democracy and limits political parties.

It's funny how the US goes around doing this.

Not much has changed

Bush says U.S. must spread democracy

"Bush says U.S. must spread democracy"

A second leader who was elected not with proper democracy calling for a spread of democracy around the world.

The US has an unfair Electoral College system which is fit only for the 18th century.

It has House elections which are often so gerrymandered it's ridiculous and pointless for many people to even vote.

How much hypocrisy can the US spread?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Note, this topic is not about Cuba.

A new dawn for Cuba? The draft constitution explained


"Dear Donald Trump: A letter from Cuba
"The US objection, the Trump administration's objection, to Cuba is that it's not a multi-party democracy like the United States and the Cuban constitution doesn't change that, in fact the new constitution reaffirms the single-party system with the Communist Party in the leading role," said William LeoGrande, a professor in the School of Public Affairs at the American University."

So, the Trump administration which was not elected through much in the way of democracy, in a system which limits political parties, is complaining about a country with a system that doesn't have democracy and limits political parties.

It's funny how the US goes around doing this.

Not much has changed

Bush says U.S. must spread democracy

"Bush says U.S. must spread democracy"

A second leader who was elected not with proper democracy calling for a spread of democracy around the world.

The US has an unfair Electoral College system which is fit only for the 18th century.

Aww. Mob rule just eludes the heck out of ya, eh?

 

[12icer]

is this the comic section? OP seems like it. Why don’t these people move to one of their ideal world countries like South Africa or aaaa Where is there a complete democracy? No socialist state is a real complete democracy. That venue of economic government model never makes it. It always ends in abject poverty, disease and then dictatorship followed by genocide. Try the history of Uganda in the 1962 through the Amin dictatorship. There can be NO chance for a democracy in this country. It is proved every minute of every day.

 

[saveliberty]

Democratic Republic....

liberals never learned the concept.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Note, this topic is not about Cuba.

A new dawn for Cuba? The draft constitution explained


"Dear Donald Trump: A letter from Cuba
"The US objection, the Trump administration's objection, to Cuba is that it's not a multi-party democracy like the United States and the Cuban constitution doesn't change that, in fact the new constitution reaffirms the single-party system with the Communist Party in the leading role," said William LeoGrande, a professor in the School of Public Affairs at the American University."

So, the Trump administration which was not elected through much in the way of democracy, in a system which limits political parties, is complaining about a country with a system that doesn't have democracy and limits political parties.

It's funny how the US goes around doing this.

Not much has changed

Bush says U.S. must spread democracy

"Bush says U.S. must spread democracy"

A second leader who was elected not with proper democracy calling for a spread of democracy around the world.

The US has an unfair Electoral College system which is fit only for the 18th century.

Aww. Mob rule just eludes the heck out of ya, eh?

Ah, a person who hates democracy.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Democratic Republic....

liberals never learned the concept.

Would seem to not be very democratic. Might just be a Republic.

Funny how the right, Trump and Bush, went around telling everyone they had to be Democratic, then when it concerns home, they're like "nah, we don't like Democracy", so why demand others are democratic then?

 

[frigidweirdo]

is this the comic section? OP seems like it. Why don’t these people move to one of their ideal world countries like South Africa or aaaa Where is there a complete democracy? No socialist state is a real complete democracy. That venue of economic government model never makes it. It always ends in abject poverty, disease and then dictatorship followed by genocide. Try the history of Uganda in the 1962 through the Amin dictatorship. There can be NO chance for a democracy in this country. It is proved every minute of every day.

You think democracy is "comic"?

Well.....

We're getting a nice collection of people who don't like democracy on here from the right.

 

[martybegan]

Note, this topic is not about Cuba.

A new dawn for Cuba? The draft constitution explained


"Dear Donald Trump: A letter from Cuba
"The US objection, the Trump administration's objection, to Cuba is that it's not a multi-party democracy like the United States and the Cuban constitution doesn't change that, in fact the new constitution reaffirms the single-party system with the Communist Party in the leading role," said William LeoGrande, a professor in the School of Public Affairs at the American University."

So, the Trump administration which was not elected through much in the way of democracy, in a system which limits political parties, is complaining about a country with a system that doesn't have democracy and limits political parties.

It's funny how the US goes around doing this.

Not much has changed

Bush says U.S. must spread democracy

"Bush says U.S. must spread democracy"

A second leader who was elected not with proper democracy calling for a spread of democracy around the world.

The US has an unfair Electoral College system which is fit only for the 18th century.

Aww. Mob rule just eludes the heck out of ya, eh?

Ah, a person who hates democracy.

Pure Democracy is 2 other kids deciding they own your bike.

 

[william104]

Note, this topic is not about Cuba.

A new dawn for Cuba? The draft constitution explained


"Dear Donald Trump: A letter from Cuba
"The US objection, the Trump administration's objection, to Cuba is that it's not a multi-party democracy like the United States and the Cuban constitution doesn't change that, in fact the new constitution reaffirms the single-party system with the Communist Party in the leading role," said William LeoGrande, a professor in the School of Public Affairs at the American University."

So, the Trump administration which was not elected through much in the way of democracy, in a system which limits political parties, is complaining about a country with a system that doesn't have democracy and limits political parties.

It's funny how the US goes around doing this.

Not much has changed

Bush says U.S. must spread democracy

"Bush says U.S. must spread democracy"

A second leader who was elected not with proper democracy calling for a spread of democracy around the world.

The US has an unfair Electoral College system which is fit only for the 18th century.

It has House elections which are often so gerrymandered it's ridiculous and pointless for many people to even vote.

How much hypocrisy can the US spread?

What part of the U.S. is a hypocrisy against Democracy, other than the putrid human larvae of tRump, his felonious and antigovernment conspiring GOPer cronies, criminal family and his brainwashed cult followers?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Note, this topic is not about Cuba.

A new dawn for Cuba? The draft constitution explained


"Dear Donald Trump: A letter from Cuba
"The US objection, the Trump administration's objection, to Cuba is that it's not a multi-party democracy like the United States and the Cuban constitution doesn't change that, in fact the new constitution reaffirms the single-party system with the Communist Party in the leading role," said William LeoGrande, a professor in the School of Public Affairs at the American University."

So, the Trump administration which was not elected through much in the way of democracy, in a system which limits political parties, is complaining about a country with a system that doesn't have democracy and limits political parties.

It's funny how the US goes around doing this.

Not much has changed

Bush says U.S. must spread democracy

"Bush says U.S. must spread democracy"

A second leader who was elected not with proper democracy calling for a spread of democracy around the world.

The US has an unfair Electoral College system which is fit only for the 18th century.

It has House elections which are often so gerrymandered it's ridiculous and pointless for many people to even vote.

How much hypocrisy can the US spread?

What part of the U.S. is a hypocrisy against Democracy, other than the putrid human larvae of tRump, his felonious and antigovernment conspiring GOPer cronies, criminal family and his brainwashed cult followers?

What isn't Democratic about the US?

I read the China Daily once on the way to Hong Kong. There was an "opinion piece" by some Chinese "academic" about elections in Hong Kong.

His whole attitude was "they get to vote, that's democracy, what more do they want?" They literally had a choice between three candidates. Each candidate was Beijing approved, ie, nobody who was pro-independence for Hong Kong could run, nobody who disagreed with Xi could run.

My first thought was "this is a joke, this isn't democracy" voting doesn't equal democracy. Making a choice and being heard is a choice.

Then the US election came along. People have two choices. Yes, I understand there are more people on the ballot, but literally it doesn't matter.
If you vote third party, your vote doesn't count.
If you live in one of 38 states which always vote the same way, your vote doesn't count.
If you live in Puerto Rico, you don't even get to vote.

Then I look at the appalling gerrymandering going on in House elections and state elections and it's like, people's votes don't count.

In Utah, a Democrat's voice has been totally wiped out. 4 House seats and they will go Republican all the time because it's been gerrymandered that way. Other states have 60-40 Republican and it's 9-1 for House seats.

It's not democracy if you don't actually have a choice, even if you have a vote. Negative voting is massive. If PR were in place people would actually have a choice. Why do you think the two monopoly parties, Dems and Reps oppose this?

Why do you think the partisan hacks on here are against proper democracy?

Oh, they'll tell you "but the smaller states need a voice", but they don't get a voice for the most part unless they're in the 12 states that really do get a voice in presidential elections. As for gerrymandering, they just snigger and laugh that they're cheating "legally".

 

[OKTexas]

Note, this topic is not about Cuba.

A new dawn for Cuba? The draft constitution explained


"Dear Donald Trump: A letter from Cuba
"The US objection, the Trump administration's objection, to Cuba is that it's not a multi-party democracy like the United States and the Cuban constitution doesn't change that, in fact the new constitution reaffirms the single-party system with the Communist Party in the leading role," said William LeoGrande, a professor in the School of Public Affairs at the American University."

So, the Trump administration which was not elected through much in the way of democracy, in a system which limits political parties, is complaining about a country with a system that doesn't have democracy and limits political parties.

It's funny how the US goes around doing this.

Not much has changed

Bush says U.S. must spread democracy

"Bush says U.S. must spread democracy"

A second leader who was elected not with proper democracy calling for a spread of democracy around the world.

The US has an unfair Electoral College system which is fit only for the 18th century.

Aww. Mob rule just eludes the heck out of ya, eh?

Ah, a person who hates democracy.

So did the founders, he's in good company.

.

 

[Dale Smith]

Note, this topic is not about Cuba.

A new dawn for Cuba? The draft constitution explained


"Dear Donald Trump: A letter from Cuba
"The US objection, the Trump administration's objection, to Cuba is that it's not a multi-party democracy like the United States and the Cuban constitution doesn't change that, in fact the new constitution reaffirms the single-party system with the Communist Party in the leading role," said William LeoGrande, a professor in the School of Public Affairs at the American University."

So, the Trump administration which was not elected through much in the way of democracy, in a system which limits political parties, is complaining about a country with a system that doesn't have democracy and limits political parties.

It's funny how the US goes around doing this.

Not much has changed

Bush says U.S. must spread democracy

"Bush says U.S. must spread democracy"

A second leader who was elected not with proper democracy calling for a spread of democracy around the world.

The US has an unfair Electoral College system which is fit only for the 18th century.

It has House elections which are often so gerrymandered it's ridiculous and pointless for many people to even vote.

How much hypocrisy can the US spread?

What part of the U.S. is a hypocrisy against Democracy, other than the putrid human larvae of tRump, his felonious and antigovernment conspiring GOPer cronies, criminal family and his brainwashed cult followers?

What isn't Democratic about the US?

I read the China Daily once on the way to Hong Kong. There was an "opinion piece" by some Chinese "academic" about elections in Hong Kong.

His whole attitude was "they get to vote, that's democracy, what more do they want?" They literally had a choice between three candidates. Each candidate was Beijing approved, ie, nobody who was pro-independence for Hong Kong could run, nobody who disagreed with Xi could run.

My first thought was "this is a joke, this isn't democracy" voting doesn't equal democracy. Making a choice and being heard is a choice.

Then the US election came along. People have two choices. Yes, I understand there are more people on the ballot, but literally it doesn't matter.
If you vote third party, your vote doesn't count.
If you live in one of 38 states which always vote the same way, your vote doesn't count.
If you live in Puerto Rico, you don't even get to vote.

Then I look at the appalling gerrymandering going on in House elections and state elections and it's like, people's votes don't count.

In Utah, a Democrat's voice has been totally wiped out. 4 House seats and they will go Republican all the time because it's been gerrymandered that way. Other states have 60-40 Republican and it's 9-1 for House seats.

It's not democracy if you don't actually have a choice, even if you have a vote. Negative voting is massive. If PR were in place people would actually have a choice. Why do you think the two monopoly parties, Dems and Reps oppose this?

Why do you think the partisan hacks on here are against proper democracy?

Oh, they'll tell you "but the smaller states need a voice", but they don't get a voice for the most part unless they're in the 12 states that really do get a voice in presidential elections. As for gerrymandering, they just snigger and laugh that they're cheating "legally".

Your beloved "gubermint" is a corporate entity engaged in a for profit venture to provide the 19 enumerated services per their corporate charter constitution via the Act of 1871. I am going to give Trump and the white hats another few months to unleash the hounds on the deep state and their banking oligarchs before I declare that we have all been had.

 

[DOTR]

Note, this topic is not about Cuba.

A new dawn for Cuba? The draft constitution explained


"Dear Donald Trump: A letter from Cuba
"The US objection, the Trump administration's objection, to Cuba is that it's not a multi-party democracy like the United States and the Cuban constitution doesn't change that, in fact the new constitution reaffirms the single-party system with the Communist Party in the leading role," said William LeoGrande, a professor in the School of Public Affairs at the American University."

So, the Trump administration which was not elected through much in the way of democracy, in a system which limits political parties, is complaining about a country with a system that doesn't have democracy and limits political parties.

It's funny how the US goes around doing this.

Not much has changed

Bush says U.S. must spread democracy

"Bush says U.S. must spread democracy"

A second leader who was elected not with proper democracy calling for a spread of democracy around the world.

The US has an unfair Electoral College system which is fit only for the 18th century.

It has House elections which are often so gerrymandered it's ridiculous and pointless for many people to even vote.

How much hypocrisy can the US spread?

What part of the U.S. is a hypocrisy against Democracy, other than the putrid human larvae of tRump, his felonious and antigovernment conspiring GOPer cronies, criminal family and his brainwashed cult followers?

What isn't Democratic about the US?

I read the China Daily once on the way to Hong Kong. There was an "opinion piece" by some Chinese "academic" about elections in Hong Kong.

His whole attitude was "they get to vote, that's democracy, what more do they want?" They literally had a choice between three candidates. Each candidate was Beijing approved, ie, nobody who was pro-independence for Hong Kong could run, nobody who disagreed with Xi could run.

My first thought was "this is a joke, this isn't democracy" voting doesn't equal democracy. Making a choice and being heard is a choice.

Then the US election came along. People have two choices. Yes, I understand there are more people on the ballot, but literally it doesn't matter.
If you vote third party, your vote doesn't count.
If you live in one of 38 states which always vote the same way, your vote doesn't count.
If you live in Puerto Rico, you don't even get to vote.

Then I look at the appalling gerrymandering going on in House elections and state elections and it's like, people's votes don't count.

In Utah, a Democrat's voice has been totally wiped out. 4 House seats and they will go Republican all the time because it's been gerrymandered that way. Other states have 60-40 Republican and it's 9-1 for House seats.

It's not democracy if you don't actually have a choice, even if you have a vote. Negative voting is massive. If PR were in place people would actually have a choice. Why do you think the two monopoly parties, Dems and Reps oppose this?

Why do you think the partisan hacks on here are against proper democracy?

Oh, they'll tell you "but the smaller states need a voice", but they don't get a voice for the most part unless they're in the 12 states that really do get a voice in presidential elections. As for gerrymandering, they just snigger and laugh that they're cheating "legally".

Your beloved "gubermint" is a corporate entity engaged in a for profit venture to provide the 19 enumerated services per their corporate charter constitution via the Act of 1871. I am going to give Trump and the white hats another few months to unleash the hounds on the deep state and their banking oligarchs before I declare that we have all been had.

And you dont expect the deep state and bankers to release their own hounds? Its what you have been seeing.

 

[Dale Smith]

Note, this topic is not about Cuba.

A new dawn for Cuba? The draft constitution explained


"Dear Donald Trump: A letter from Cuba
"The US objection, the Trump administration's objection, to Cuba is that it's not a multi-party democracy like the United States and the Cuban constitution doesn't change that, in fact the new constitution reaffirms the single-party system with the Communist Party in the leading role," said William LeoGrande, a professor in the School of Public Affairs at the American University."

So, the Trump administration which was not elected through much in the way of democracy, in a system which limits political parties, is complaining about a country with a system that doesn't have democracy and limits political parties.

It's funny how the US goes around doing this.

Not much has changed

Bush says U.S. must spread democracy

"Bush says U.S. must spread democracy"

A second leader who was elected not with proper democracy calling for a spread of democracy around the world.

The US has an unfair Electoral College system which is fit only for the 18th century.

It has House elections which are often so gerrymandered it's ridiculous and pointless for many people to even vote.

How much hypocrisy can the US spread?

What part of the U.S. is a hypocrisy against Democracy, other than the putrid human larvae of tRump, his felonious and antigovernment conspiring GOPer cronies, criminal family and his brainwashed cult followers?

What isn't Democratic about the US?

I read the China Daily once on the way to Hong Kong. There was an "opinion piece" by some Chinese "academic" about elections in Hong Kong.

His whole attitude was "they get to vote, that's democracy, what more do they want?" They literally had a choice between three candidates. Each candidate was Beijing approved, ie, nobody who was pro-independence for Hong Kong could run, nobody who disagreed with Xi could run.

My first thought was "this is a joke, this isn't democracy" voting doesn't equal democracy. Making a choice and being heard is a choice.

Then the US election came along. People have two choices. Yes, I understand there are more people on the ballot, but literally it doesn't matter.
If you vote third party, your vote doesn't count.
If you live in one of 38 states which always vote the same way, your vote doesn't count.
If you live in Puerto Rico, you don't even get to vote.

Then I look at the appalling gerrymandering going on in House elections and state elections and it's like, people's votes don't count.

In Utah, a Democrat's voice has been totally wiped out. 4 House seats and they will go Republican all the time because it's been gerrymandered that way. Other states have 60-40 Republican and it's 9-1 for House seats.

It's not democracy if you don't actually have a choice, even if you have a vote. Negative voting is massive. If PR were in place people would actually have a choice. Why do you think the two monopoly parties, Dems and Reps oppose this?

Why do you think the partisan hacks on here are against proper democracy?

Oh, they'll tell you "but the smaller states need a voice", but they don't get a voice for the most part unless they're in the 12 states that really do get a voice in presidential elections. As for gerrymandering, they just snigger and laugh that they're cheating "legally".

Your beloved "gubermint" is a corporate entity engaged in a for profit venture to provide the 19 enumerated services per their corporate charter constitution via the Act of 1871. I am going to give Trump and the white hats another few months to unleash the hounds on the deep state and their banking oligarchs before I declare that we have all been had.

And you dont expect the deep state and bankers to release their own hounds? Its what you have been seeing.

Trust me, I have been watching this allllll play out........

 

[frigidweirdo]

Note, this topic is not about Cuba.

A new dawn for Cuba? The draft constitution explained


"Dear Donald Trump: A letter from Cuba
"The US objection, the Trump administration's objection, to Cuba is that it's not a multi-party democracy like the United States and the Cuban constitution doesn't change that, in fact the new constitution reaffirms the single-party system with the Communist Party in the leading role," said William LeoGrande, a professor in the School of Public Affairs at the American University."

So, the Trump administration which was not elected through much in the way of democracy, in a system which limits political parties, is complaining about a country with a system that doesn't have democracy and limits political parties.

It's funny how the US goes around doing this.

Not much has changed

Bush says U.S. must spread democracy

"Bush says U.S. must spread democracy"

A second leader who was elected not with proper democracy calling for a spread of democracy around the world.

The US has an unfair Electoral College system which is fit only for the 18th century.

Aww. Mob rule just eludes the heck out of ya, eh?

Ah, a person who hates democracy.

So did the founders, he's in good company.

.

The Founding Fathers didn't necessarily hate democracy. They just lived in a different time. When Democracy had been extremely limited at that time.
They had been a part of the British Empire where voting was limited to rich people.
Going from that to full out Proportional Representation would have caused problems.

The modern world has changed and the Founding Fathers allowed for the Constitution to change so that it could meet the needs of the contemporary world.

This doesn't mean they hated Democracy. It means they understood that the world wasn't ready for it at that time.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Note, this topic is not about Cuba.

A new dawn for Cuba? The draft constitution explained


"Dear Donald Trump: A letter from Cuba
"The US objection, the Trump administration's objection, to Cuba is that it's not a multi-party democracy like the United States and the Cuban constitution doesn't change that, in fact the new constitution reaffirms the single-party system with the Communist Party in the leading role," said William LeoGrande, a professor in the School of Public Affairs at the American University."

So, the Trump administration which was not elected through much in the way of democracy, in a system which limits political parties, is complaining about a country with a system that doesn't have democracy and limits political parties.

It's funny how the US goes around doing this.

Not much has changed

Bush says U.S. must spread democracy

"Bush says U.S. must spread democracy"

A second leader who was elected not with proper democracy calling for a spread of democracy around the world.

The US has an unfair Electoral College system which is fit only for the 18th century.

It has House elections which are often so gerrymandered it's ridiculous and pointless for many people to even vote.

How much hypocrisy can the US spread?

What part of the U.S. is a hypocrisy against Democracy, other than the putrid human larvae of tRump, his felonious and antigovernment conspiring GOPer cronies, criminal family and his brainwashed cult followers?

What isn't Democratic about the US?

I read the China Daily once on the way to Hong Kong. There was an "opinion piece" by some Chinese "academic" about elections in Hong Kong.

His whole attitude was "they get to vote, that's democracy, what more do they want?" They literally had a choice between three candidates. Each candidate was Beijing approved, ie, nobody who was pro-independence for Hong Kong could run, nobody who disagreed with Xi could run.

My first thought was "this is a joke, this isn't democracy" voting doesn't equal democracy. Making a choice and being heard is a choice.

Then the US election came along. People have two choices. Yes, I understand there are more people on the ballot, but literally it doesn't matter.
If you vote third party, your vote doesn't count.
If you live in one of 38 states which always vote the same way, your vote doesn't count.
If you live in Puerto Rico, you don't even get to vote.

Then I look at the appalling gerrymandering going on in House elections and state elections and it's like, people's votes don't count.

In Utah, a Democrat's voice has been totally wiped out. 4 House seats and they will go Republican all the time because it's been gerrymandered that way. Other states have 60-40 Republican and it's 9-1 for House seats.

It's not democracy if you don't actually have a choice, even if you have a vote. Negative voting is massive. If PR were in place people would actually have a choice. Why do you think the two monopoly parties, Dems and Reps oppose this?

Why do you think the partisan hacks on here are against proper democracy?

Oh, they'll tell you "but the smaller states need a voice", but they don't get a voice for the most part unless they're in the 12 states that really do get a voice in presidential elections. As for gerrymandering, they just snigger and laugh that they're cheating "legally".

Your beloved "gubermint" is a corporate entity engaged in a for profit venture to provide the 19 enumerated services per their corporate charter constitution via the Act of 1871. I am going to give Trump and the white hats another few months to unleash the hounds on the deep state and their banking oligarchs before I declare that we have all been had.

Why wait? Trump isn't going to change anything. It was never his intention to do so. He just wants to enrich himself.

 

[Wyatt earp]

You must really stop with this nonsense, you have the state of Florida allowing felons to vote, San Francisco and other places allowing Illegals to vote and you want to eliminate the EC to bully us all to hell



.

 

[Issa]

Didnt the orange supreme leader called the EC a disaster?...I beleive him.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Didnt the orange supreme leader called the EC a disaster...I beleive him.

It was a disaster until he found out the Republicans get a 3 million head start.

 

[Erinwltr]

Note, this topic is not about Cuba.

A new dawn for Cuba? The draft constitution explained


"Dear Donald Trump: A letter from Cuba
"The US objection, the Trump administration's objection, to Cuba is that it's not a multi-party democracy like the United States and the Cuban constitution doesn't change that, in fact the new constitution reaffirms the single-party system with the Communist Party in the leading role," said William LeoGrande, a professor in the School of Public Affairs at the American University."

So, the Trump administration which was not elected through much in the way of democracy, in a system which limits political parties, is complaining about a country with a system that doesn't have democracy and limits political parties.

It's funny how the US goes around doing this.

Not much has changed

Bush says U.S. must spread democracy

"Bush says U.S. must spread democracy"

A second leader who was elected not with proper democracy calling for a spread of democracy around the world.

The US has an unfair Electoral College system which is fit only for the 18th century.

Aww. Mob rule just eludes the heck out of ya, eh?

Ah, a person who hates democracy.

Pure Democracy is 2 other kids deciding they own your bike.

Not being snarky. Perhaps you will explain that to me or point me in the direction of a book or two?