US Appeals court upholds Marylands unconstitutional ban on scary guns

[2aguy]

Wrong.....it reaffirmed the individual right and the right to bear arms...it said nothing about banning militia weapons. I posted quotes from it earlier...please look them up.

But it did so, while dropping the "well regulated miltia" portion of the 2nd amendment as being superfluous. If you ignore that clause, you no longer have the right to military arms alluded to in Miller.

On top of that.....every single firearm was at some point a military arm....lever action rifles, bolt action rifles (still are), pump action shotguns (still are used by the military) and even 6 shot revolvers...as well as flint lock rifles....what you are trying to say is just wrong....

 

[Dr Grump]

it should only come up, if you have to defend your rights in Court.

I believe inalienable rights were invented by gun lovers say they could keep their peashooters. Where did you get your definition from? Is it written into law somewhere? I like killing cats. It makes me happy. I do it privately and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy and safe. I like beating up cripples. It makes me happy. I like this inalienable right thing....

Natural rights are recognized (pre-existing rights) and secured in State Constitutions, and available via Due Process.

No they are not. They are not regonised in any way, shape or form by law. You have yet to name what they are and define them by law.

 

[danielpalos]

Well regulated militia may not be infringed. Usually, it is National Guard whether State or federal.

Heller v DC threw that clause out. And substituted an individual right to self defense. Hence the thread about the court upholding a ban of private citizens owning weapons the militia uses.

nothing but diversion, right wingers?

I'm waiting for somebody to claim second amendment rights on federal property. Where there was no right to bear arms on federal property. Not in federal buildings, not on federal land, at least not before Obama opened up federal parks to guns.

 

[danielpalos]

The illegals are the ones that provide the popular vote margin for that Crooked Hillary bitch. Thanks god that she wasn't elected. She would have kept the borders open and brought in a milllion goddamn Muslims.

Ohio did an investigation, and from what was posted in : Snowflake Argument That Illegals don't Vote Continues To 'Die' a 'Slow Death'

There were around 30 illegals voting in the state election in 2015, and if extrapolated to the entire county, would account for less than 2,000 illegal votes for the entire country. Far short of the 4-5 million Trump claimed.

they are only excluded from federal elections.

 

[danielpalos]

Illegal as in a felon caught with a firearm...that would be illegal.

In some states somebody addicted to prescription pain killers with a gun is also illegal. Or somebody who beat on his wife, or even just threatened to do so, with a gun is also illegal.

How broad is your definition?

Whatever your State politicians claim it is; States have Health and Safety codes.

 

[danielpalos]

it should only come up, if you have to defend your rights in Court.

I believe inalienable rights were invented by gun lovers say they could keep their peashooters. Where did you get your definition from? Is it written into law somewhere? I like killing cats. It makes me happy. I do it privately and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy and safe. I like beating up cripples. It makes me happy. I like this inalienable right thing....

Natural rights are recognized (pre-existing rights) and secured in State Constitutions, and available via Due Process.

No they are not. They are not regonised in any way, shape or form by law. You have yet to name what they are and define them by law.

attention deficits, as well right winger?

All people are by nature free and independent and have inalienable rights. Among these are enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and pursuing and obtaining safety, happiness, and privacy.

 

[there4eyeM]

It isn't that the guns are scary, it is the scary people who buy them because they look scary.

 

[Rustic]

The larger the government the more it needs socialism to exist… Socialism is the death of any sort of individualism and freedom....

 

[danielpalos]

The larger the government the more it needs socialism to exist… Socialism is the death of any sort of individualism and freedom....

we have a Second Amendment; yet, the right wing believes in the socialism on a national basis, of a PoliceStateUSA.

 

[Dr Grump]

[
attention deficits, as well right winger?

All people are by nature free and independent and have inalienable rights. Among these are enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and pursuing and obtaining safety, happiness, and privacy.

I think you missed my point. Who came up with that definition? How is it enforceable by law (hint, it's not). I mean it's a nice, romantic 18th century POV, but not relevant or being capable of being enabled in this day and age.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

How about federal immigration laws? The filthy ass Liberals sure as hell don't want to enforce those laws do they?

Obama kicked more criminal illegal aliens out of the country than all previous presidents combined. FACT.

He also let in more than all of the other presidents combined. They are still here.

 

[Pete7469]

all y'all have, is nothing but fallacy.

Yeah....

Leftist tyrants only exist in our minds.

Imbecile.

 

[Pete7469]

federal law is federal law; only the right wing, never gets it.

No bed wetter.

The "right wing" has "gotten it" well over 100 million times from sociopaths like you.

You'll never get away with it as long as the 2nd Amendment stands and I can move.

 

[Pete7469]

Like anti-tank weapons, mortars, hand grenades, etc. Really?

Your profound idiocy has been duly noted on more occasions than anyone would care to count, however I'll take your bait.

As the law stands right now even your dumbass could apply for and receive permits to obtain, manufacture, design and do all sort of dangerous shit if you've got the money and lawyers to fill out the paperwork.

Of course in reality no one is even discussing crew served weapons, indirect artillery, anti-personnel, or anti-material ordinance This was insipid shit you were programmed to parrot that has absolutely nothing to do with citizens having small arms available in their homes for self defense.

You should have been left to dehydrate and die in Kermit Gosnell's dumpster you insipid parasite.

The NRA and the Conservative Movement have become terrorist organizations.

What, no zombies? At conservative confab, NRA’s LaPierre lists threats to civilization, starting with the media

The first thing despots and oligarchs do is put together an enemies list.

You grew up well after most houses had GFI plugs near water didn't you?

Yeah, I'm not sure about the NRA, they don't support black legal gun-owners when the police attacks them for it.

I'm sure the BLM bowel movement would JUST LOVE if the NRA got involved in an incident they were looking to exploit.

 

[Chuz Life]

There are restrictions on all rights, including the 2nd and the 1st. When we've got officially declared war on the streets of Maryland, I'd be willing to rethink this ruling.

by then it will be too late

the 2nd amendment was put into place so that citizens could check the power of the federal government; this ruling flies in the face of that intent

If you think you're going to stand up to the power of the federal government with an assault rifle (I'm guessing they mean AR-15 types? semi's actually?), I pity you.

So you agree then that the government should have nothing to fear of law abiding citizens arming themselves for their own defense and for the defense of their states with AR-15s?

That's great! Something we can agree on.

Show me an intellectually honest liberal and I will show you a Conservative in the making.

 

[Pete7469]

So you agree then that the government should have nothing to fear of law abiding citizens arming themselves for their own defense and for the defense of their states with AR-15s?

That's great! Something we can agree on.

Show me an intellectually honest liberal and I will show you a Conservative in the making.

Reality sometimes penetrates the program.

Well said.

 

[Chuz Life]

U.S. appeals court upholds Maryland's ban on assault rifles
A federal appeals court on Tuesday upheld Maryland's ban on assault rifles, ruling gun owners are not protected under the U.S. Constitution to possess "weapons of war," court documents showed.
The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit decided 10-4 that the Firearm Safety Act of 2013, a law in response to the massacre in Newtown, Connecticut, by a gunman with an assault rifle, does not violate the right to bear arms within the Second Amendment.
"Put simply, we have no power to extend Second Amendment protection to the weapons of war," Judge Robert King wrote

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Extend it? WTF is that supposed to mean?
I assume, for the sake of consistency and honor, those same people also don't think the first applies to the internet and phones? You know, because they cant "extend it?"
Or maybe any religion developed after 1787, doesn't get the same rights as one developed pre-Constitution?
IDK maybe that's not what it means

lol, the Mormon polygamists don't get the same rights for their religion.

yeah, and muslims cant stone women for getting raped. You completely missed my point.

You're arguing that the 2nd Amendment strictly interpreted prohibits any restrictions on automatic weapons, grenade launchers, rocket launchers, bazookas, etc.

Imagine just for the sake of an academic exercise. . .that "we the people" are once again the victims of a tyrannical government. The likes of which are as bad or worse than the founding fathers faced just prior to the Revolutionary War.

Do tell me what limits to the weapons we might use to defend our liberties and freedoms would the likes of Paul Revere, Thomas Payne or Sam Adams, or George Washington, abide by?

Show me an intellectually honest liberal and I will show you a Conservative in the making.

 

[Pete7469]

If you think you're going to stand up to the power of the federal government with an assault rifle (I'm guessing they mean AR-15 types? semi's actually?), I pity you.

My good lady...

I have dragged weapons around the world for the empire.

A 9 year old mujaheddin with a 70 year old AK that has a 40 caliber bore worn out of it can pin down a company of marines for hours until the pentagon lets them deal with it.

99% of the time the kid runs away.

Please do not believe FOR ONE SECOND that US military personnel won't take their issued small arms home before they throw themselves into a civilian vs. government end game. The people who hold the keys to the vaults and machines are not going to support the sort of abuse collectivist governments are notorious for. The people who make our government "run" know why it doesn't run very well.

 

[danielpalos]

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attention deficits, as well right winger?

All people are by nature free and independent and have inalienable rights. Among these are enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and pursuing and obtaining safety, happiness, and privacy.

I think you missed my point. Who came up with that definition? How is it enforceable by law (hint, it's not). I mean it's a nice, romantic 18th century POV, but not relevant or being capable of being enabled in this day and age.

did you know, nobody takes the right wing seriously about the law, or economics?

It is in a State Constitution.

 

[danielpalos]

all y'all have, is nothing but fallacy.

Yeah....

Leftist tyrants only exist in our minds.

Imbecile.

don't complain, be Patriotic; or the "nazis will, grab your guns".