Zone1 Unearthing the Roots of Racial Inequity in America

[toobfreak]

Unearthing the Roots of Racial Inequity in America​

SIMPLE QUESTION: Name a country more multicultural than America? And has greater equity?

I thought so.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

And since blacks control 2 percent of the wealth and you post an anectdote, recognize that this story is about whites.

De.ocrat rule you'll have that shit

 

[bigrebnc1775]

SIMPLE QUESTION: Name a country more multicultural than America? And has greater equity?

I thought so.

I wonder when will the Brits will have a black PM? Or Canada

 

[odanny]

De.ocrat rule you'll have that shit

Is that the best you could regurgitate?

 

[IM2]

SIMPLE QUESTION: Name a country more multicultural than America? And has greater equity?

I thought so.

Since this is a article from a white man talking about how whites fail to recognize what whiteness has meant, your question is off topic. You are an example of what the writer is talking about. It's now time whites like you stopped dodging the topic when the issue is about white behavior. Face your history and begin to understand that white is a race, and that being white has allowed you things from birth that have come with being white for generation after generation. One of them has been the refusal to do introspection. Instead its easier to ask stupid questions.

 

[IM2]

De.ocrat rule you'll have that shit

What does this have to do with the OP?

 

[IM2]

Blacks lack the ability to even get an ID, right?

This is an article by a white man talking about whiteness. Blacks getting ID's have nothing to do with this discussion.

 

[toobfreak]

Since this is a article from a white man talking about how whites fail to recognize what whiteness has meant, your question is off topic.

BULLSHIT. I am asking YOU: Name another country more multicultural and who makes a greater effort to create opportunity and fairness for everyone? Just our being so multicultural when we could have chosen to be and stay 99% northern European is in itself, a form of fairness and equity.

You are an example of what the writer is talking about.

You are an example of what sticks to the bottom of my shoe.

It's now time whites like you stopped dodging the topic

Says the racist hatemonger bigoted pig who does nothing but dodge questions. To you, everything is dodging, racist and off topic unless it leads to the answers and conclusions you try to hem people into.

 

[toobfreak]

This is an article by a white man talking about whiteness.

The views of ONE MAN. His skin color doesn't mean shit. I can throw a rock out my window and hit a dozen while guilt liberals.

 

[IM2]

The views of ONE MAN. His skin color doesn't mean shit. I can throw a rock out my window and hit a dozen while guilt liberals.

It's the virew of more than one man and you know it. You just don't have the balls to admit the truth in what this man is saying. This ain't about guilt, but again, you show the arrogance that has been a part of whiteness.

 

[IM2]

This is the thread topic.

Unearthing the Roots of Racial Inequity in America​

Chapter One of A Family History of White Lies: American Roots of Racial Injustice
As chance and ancestry would have it, my life as a White American began on White Street, at the end of the first week of May 1955, in the small town of Clinton, in DeWitt County, smack dab in the middle of the state of Illinois. Clinton was, on the day of my birth, a town of six thousand souls — all but a handful of them White people — hemmed in on all sides by freshly-turned soybean and corn fields.

For the first eighteen years of my life, I lived in Clinton, in the middle of middle America with my middle-class White family in a medium-sized white house on West White Street. Although I have spent my adult life far from the rural Midwest and my racially-isolated hometown, in many ways, “White Street” — think of it as the racially-privileged version of “Easy Street” — is the place I have always called home.

Growing up in an overwhelmingly White community, I was immersed in racialist thinking, actions, and institutions. I have lived my entire life in a world where my Whiteness mattered and has given me rights and freedoms denied to others.

Despite the unquestioning faith in the superiority of Whiteness shared by all my childhood family, friends, and neighbors — or perhaps, because of it — as a child, I was convinced I was not at all racist. I could look back to the time of my parent’s childhood and see clear evidence that racism was a much more serious problem in their generation than it was in mine. As a child in the 1960s, imagining myself as fully enlightened on matters of racial equality and civil rights, I felt my generation would be the ones to solve the problem of White supremacy in America once and for all. I had no idea how far we had to go.

As a child, I was not only ignorant of how deeply White supremacy was embedded in American history and culture, I also possessed a completely groundless certainty about the geographic limits of racism in America. I looked south from my central Illinois hometown and imagined a dividing line, a western extension of the Mason-Dixon line marking the border between the tolerant North and the racist South. In general, I grew up thinking White supremacy was primarily a problem of a different time and a different place, not something related in any way to me or my community.

But, of course, the history and geography of racial inequity in America are far more pervasive and complex than any younger versions of myself ever could have imagined. As a White American male, I have lived a life of entitlement and privilege and yet, until very recently, the myriad ways I was advantaged by ancestral legacies of Whiteness remained invisible to me, too ordinary-seeming to attract notice.

We cannot know ourselves until we know our true history. But the truths of White American history have been intentionally buried. For generations, White Americans have taught their children a history full of white lies, a sanitized and whitewashed version of American origins designed to maximize (White) American pride and minimize any feelings of discomfort (for White folks).

Unearthing Roots of Racial Inequity in America

Chapter One of A Family History of White Lies: American Roots of Racial Injustice

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This is a thread about the concept of whiteness and how it has defined our society. It is not about the Asian with the perfect entrance exam score denied entry into Harvard for a low score white legacy admission. Nor is it about naming countries so some moron can try saying America doesn't have a problem. All off topic posts from now on will be reported

 

[toobfreak]

It's the virew of more than one man and you know it.

Really? Do you have a list of names and CVs for us to check? Further, if you are saying that mere size of number lends credibility to their view, then I thank you for vindicating the views of millions of Trump Supporters, "election deniers," and J6 protesters! Perhaps worse still, you've just punched yourself in the face denouncing the entire theory that "all men are created equal," and that to see otherwise as racism! Because, the foundation of your very argument is that RACE determines legitimacy and outcome or WEIGHT of argument, because all you ever do, Bozo, is argue strength of argument BASED on race, hence the reason for stressing that it is a WHITE man arguing about WHITE people, instead of crediting them because of their education and expertise in the field.

You just don't have the balls

I only know my balls are a hell of a lot bigger and more legitimate than yours.

 

[IM2]

Really? Do you have a list of names and CVs for us to check? Further, if you are saying that mere size of number lends credibility to their view, then I thank you for vindicating the views of millions of Trump Supporters, "election deniers," and J6 protesters! Perhaps worse still, you've just punched yourself in the face denouncing the entire theory that "all men are created equal," and that to see otherwise as racism! Because, the foundation of your very argument is that RACE determines legitimacy and outcome or WEIGHT of argument, because all you ever do, Bozo, is argue strength of argument BASED on race, hence the reason for stressing that it is a WHITE man arguing about WHITE people, instead of crediting them because of their education and expertise in the field.


I only know my balls are a hell of a lot bigger and more legitimate than yours.

It the experience of millions of whites and you know it. You are the one measuring everything on race. I simply rebut your erroneous views. You live to deny these things as if by your denying them to me means these things aren't so. But they are so, and what this man said, you have lived too.

 

[IM2]

“Because most whites have not been trained to think with complexity about racism, and because it benefits white dominance not to do so, we have a very limited understanding of it. We are the least likely to see, comprehend, or be invested in validating people of color’s assertions of racism and being honest about their consequences. At the same time, because of white social, economic, and political power within a white dominant culture, whites are the group in the position to legitimize people of color’s assertions of racism. Being in this position engenders a form of racial arrogance, and in this racial arrogance, whites have little compunction about debating the knowledge of people who have thought deeply about race through research, study, peer-reviewed scholarship ,deep and on-going critical self-reflection, interracial relationships, and lived experience. This expertise is often trivialized and countered with simplistic platitudes, such as people just need to see each other as individuals’ or ‘see each other as humans’ or ‘take personal responsibility.’

White lack of racial humility often leads to declarations of disagreement when in fact the problem is that we do no tunderstand. Whites generally feel free to dismiss informed perspectives rather than have the humility to acknowledge that they are unfamiliar, reflect on them further, seek more information, or sustain a dialogue.”
- Dr. Robin DiAngelo

 

[toobfreak]

It the experience of millions of whites and you know it.

No, prove it. Put up or SHUT UP. Or are you all talk?

You are the one measuring everything on race.

Acknowledging observations is quite a different thing from MEASURING. YOU are the one measuring everything by race in your EVERY thread and EVERY post. It is all you see, care or talk about!

I simply rebut your erroneous views.

No you don't. Just saying you rebut them doesn't prove they are erroneous. Dude, are you full of crap or what? Posting an article of someone's theories and beliefs you happen to like and agree with doesn't prove a thing.

You live to deny these things

You live to extol them. I only deny things based on your total lack of supporting proof.

as if by your denying them to me means these things aren't so.

No less so than your extolling them on this forum makes them true.

what this man said, you have lived too.

Go suck dead donkey dick. You haven't a clue what I have lived, you racist jackass. I swear, I know 5th graders with more smarts and education than you. I guess that is the flaw of the internet--- it gives any brainless hack like you with a keyboard an equal voice.

 

[toobfreak]

“Because most whites have not been trained to think with complexity about racism,

Let's distill this down to simpler terms that the OP and good doctor can understand. White people are the dominant race in the civilized world because they created and established the most civilization over the widest area on the planet which is self-evident by a single look at any globe, so as such as the conquerors by dint of their better technology and weapons, hold the stronger, majority, upper hand, so why should they bother nor care about needing a "complex" view? The argument for a "complex view" is merely a euphemism for the weaker hand hoping to gain inroads into that success, and to carry truck with a "complex" view is to unnecessarily weaken one's hand in favor of the vanquished.

Minorities care about "complex" views only because they ARE minorities, looking to rationalize their failure, they dependency and their defeat.

And since whites created civilization, it necessarily follows that if and when that civilization becomes overrun with a dependent minority population, civilization will fail, as it is in the process of doing right now, because if the minorities were capable of creating or sustaining civilization in the first place, they already would have on their own, instead of trying to invade and take over that created by white people.

 

[jwoodie]

Face your history and begin to understand that white is a race, and that being white has allowed you things from birth that have come with being white for generation after generation.

So is it genetic, cultural or both? Do you apply that to all races? And why only in the US?

 

[IM2]

So is it genetic, cultural or both? Do you apply that to all races? And why only in the US?

This article is by a white man about being white in America.

 

[toobfreak]

This article is by a white man about being white in America.

I'll ask you again to stop running away, dodging, making excuses and evading. Before you can post a thread like this, you must answer for us this simple question to legitimize the topic in the first place!

Name a country more multicultural than America. And one that has greater equity.

If you cannot, then you have no right to constantly attack and criticize America, Americans, much less "white people," as that establishes that no one has done better and how dare you attack the very people who have actually set the WORLD STANDARD for fairness, justice and equity!

 

[MizMolly]

Spare me the denial of what has gone on in America. You can't face your history. This post is proof.

How do you know his history?