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I feel like I can really speak to this topic because I started out life as an uber-left college aged democrat 20-something and have aged towards the middle and pragmatism. Yet I came from a family filled with republicans of the old-school type. I've heard it all, all the complaining, all the woes.
OK, so this thread is inspired by something I heard Lindsey Graham say today on Fox News. He was lamenting about how Trump's followers might be brought around by telling them their support of Trump was hurting the republican party. I almost fell off my chair laughing. They are with the RINO Trump precisely TO hurt the republican party...willingly and happily.
Let me explain.
There isn't anymore "brand loyalty" in any significant numbers with regards to the GOP label. The reason this is so isn't at first what most might be thinking (how badly the name "Bush"..and Cheney..destroyed the label). It's because what used to hold the GOP together was a glue called "Christianity". And Christianity has been under calculated assault from the new cult trying to replace it, as well as internal erosion from Bible-thumping hypocrites lodged within the fold.
So it is accurate to say that the demise of the GOP is directly related to the demise of true Christian values that are quiet, persistent and reliable.
The left has glue. The left has a cult now; which has recently risen above mere religion to gain special protected status that can put other religions in jail if they fail to play along...thank you very much..
The middle is a group of people lost. They feel betrayed and abandoned by leaders on both sides. So they have become utterly jaded and not loyal to anyone. What they deeply desire is a leader who makes sense, who is strong...and who isn't a member of a whacked out (LGBT) or insipid (neo-Christian) religion which lays down and takes it up the keister in either case; literally or figuratively. They see the right as having no more real, actual, authentic glue. All that's left in that glue are just calcified extreme right talking points. While their main concern from the assault from the far left gets a complete pass. In other words, how do you respect "Christian" when Christian has no backbone and all that's left is an insipid, fruitless, shrieking pulpit-puppet saying "believe me no matter how spineless and ineffectual I've become!".
The middle doesn't want that. And, they don't want American children stripped legally of either a father or mother for life, or taught how cool it is to have anal sex after recess in the 5th grade. So they are caught..well...in the middle...for very tangible reasons. They feel abandoned by both extremes. And that's why I found it hilarious that Lindsey Graham was actually believing that the GOP brand-loyalty might be a way to draw Trump supporters back into the GOP. Why? What would they gain from it besides a glue-less shell that does nothing but spout rhetoric without backing it up?
I mean...get a clue! Know your electorate.
Great work BTW, eliminating Chris Christie from the lineup...the only one with the quiet fortitude to give the GOP a spine once again and reinstall basic Christian values of both conservativism AND compassion. Don't worry. The Trump supporters will expect the GOP to insert another insipid puppet that can be bought by either oil or Soros money just like all the rest.
So while Fox News does its best to cordially drum a spine out of its body (Christie), and simultaneously laments why they are losing voters in droves to a candidate with a spine (Trump), I laugh and laugh and laugh at the effectiveness of a former democrat pulling a Ralph Nader as a favor to a neo-cult to finally and completely extinguish all vestiges of any glue left in the GOP and the GOP itself by extension.
We need two parties but we are very very close to only having one. And, you can't really blame Donald Trump. He's just a businessman at the end of the day...
And BTW, as effective as Kasich might be as a leader, nobody sees "spine" when they hear him try to get fired up. You can't fake authenticity and when people are jaded as hell, their instincts are extremely sharp. They will smell the ruse. It would've been better to line up a Christie /Kasich ticket instead of the opposite. Because with Christie, the Trump-electorate transfer would've actually happened. It won't now. Kasich is a likeable guy and would probably do well near the Oval Office. But when the middle is CRAVING a spine, attempting to insert one at the last minute in a man who is not spineless, but more reserved, will gain nothing but Trumpsters' suspicions and apathy. Christie was the only one who could get them fired up. And BTW, as the campaign moves into the South and more liberal states, that pat Christie gave Obama on the back might not be so horrific to middle black and other minority voters who would see that as a treatment of equals between blacks and whites...
Bush taking Christie's place is probably one of the worst mistakes ever. He CANNOT get elected. If you think anyone in the middle is craving W-2, you are smoking some serious dope. All Bush is doing is siphoning Christie's chance at getting into the next debate away from him. A last ditch hope would be to expunge the unelectable Rubio (too young/inexperienced, can't stand up to Hillary) or Bush (c'mon, somebody has to sit this guy down and spell out reality) and talk those voters into backing Christie. So if you think about it, once again the Bush family dynasty is going to deliver another blow to the GOP out of their own narcissistic addiction to ultimate power: the GOP itself be damned..
There's still time. But the clock is ticking. Let's see how quick the GOP is to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory..
OK, so this thread is inspired by something I heard Lindsey Graham say today on Fox News. He was lamenting about how Trump's followers might be brought around by telling them their support of Trump was hurting the republican party. I almost fell off my chair laughing. They are with the RINO Trump precisely TO hurt the republican party...willingly and happily.
Let me explain.
There isn't anymore "brand loyalty" in any significant numbers with regards to the GOP label. The reason this is so isn't at first what most might be thinking (how badly the name "Bush"..and Cheney..destroyed the label). It's because what used to hold the GOP together was a glue called "Christianity". And Christianity has been under calculated assault from the new cult trying to replace it, as well as internal erosion from Bible-thumping hypocrites lodged within the fold.
So it is accurate to say that the demise of the GOP is directly related to the demise of true Christian values that are quiet, persistent and reliable.
The left has glue. The left has a cult now; which has recently risen above mere religion to gain special protected status that can put other religions in jail if they fail to play along...thank you very much..
The middle is a group of people lost. They feel betrayed and abandoned by leaders on both sides. So they have become utterly jaded and not loyal to anyone. What they deeply desire is a leader who makes sense, who is strong...and who isn't a member of a whacked out (LGBT) or insipid (neo-Christian) religion which lays down and takes it up the keister in either case; literally or figuratively. They see the right as having no more real, actual, authentic glue. All that's left in that glue are just calcified extreme right talking points. While their main concern from the assault from the far left gets a complete pass. In other words, how do you respect "Christian" when Christian has no backbone and all that's left is an insipid, fruitless, shrieking pulpit-puppet saying "believe me no matter how spineless and ineffectual I've become!".
The middle doesn't want that. And, they don't want American children stripped legally of either a father or mother for life, or taught how cool it is to have anal sex after recess in the 5th grade. So they are caught..well...in the middle...for very tangible reasons. They feel abandoned by both extremes. And that's why I found it hilarious that Lindsey Graham was actually believing that the GOP brand-loyalty might be a way to draw Trump supporters back into the GOP. Why? What would they gain from it besides a glue-less shell that does nothing but spout rhetoric without backing it up?
I mean...get a clue! Know your electorate.
Great work BTW, eliminating Chris Christie from the lineup...the only one with the quiet fortitude to give the GOP a spine once again and reinstall basic Christian values of both conservativism AND compassion. Don't worry. The Trump supporters will expect the GOP to insert another insipid puppet that can be bought by either oil or Soros money just like all the rest.
So while Fox News does its best to cordially drum a spine out of its body (Christie), and simultaneously laments why they are losing voters in droves to a candidate with a spine (Trump), I laugh and laugh and laugh at the effectiveness of a former democrat pulling a Ralph Nader as a favor to a neo-cult to finally and completely extinguish all vestiges of any glue left in the GOP and the GOP itself by extension.
We need two parties but we are very very close to only having one. And, you can't really blame Donald Trump. He's just a businessman at the end of the day...
And BTW, as effective as Kasich might be as a leader, nobody sees "spine" when they hear him try to get fired up. You can't fake authenticity and when people are jaded as hell, their instincts are extremely sharp. They will smell the ruse. It would've been better to line up a Christie /Kasich ticket instead of the opposite. Because with Christie, the Trump-electorate transfer would've actually happened. It won't now. Kasich is a likeable guy and would probably do well near the Oval Office. But when the middle is CRAVING a spine, attempting to insert one at the last minute in a man who is not spineless, but more reserved, will gain nothing but Trumpsters' suspicions and apathy. Christie was the only one who could get them fired up. And BTW, as the campaign moves into the South and more liberal states, that pat Christie gave Obama on the back might not be so horrific to middle black and other minority voters who would see that as a treatment of equals between blacks and whites...
Bush taking Christie's place is probably one of the worst mistakes ever. He CANNOT get elected. If you think anyone in the middle is craving W-2, you are smoking some serious dope. All Bush is doing is siphoning Christie's chance at getting into the next debate away from him. A last ditch hope would be to expunge the unelectable Rubio (too young/inexperienced, can't stand up to Hillary) or Bush (c'mon, somebody has to sit this guy down and spell out reality) and talk those voters into backing Christie. So if you think about it, once again the Bush family dynasty is going to deliver another blow to the GOP out of their own narcissistic addiction to ultimate power: the GOP itself be damned..
There's still time. But the clock is ticking. Let's see how quick the GOP is to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory..
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