Uh oh! Democrats getting hammered by religious voters

[GoneBezerk]

Oh, once Romney took the lead for the GOP all of sudden the stories about "Mormons" hit the press.

Strange we never heard this when Harry Reid has been ruining the Senate for a couple years. Hell, Harry Reid probably has gambling ties through his Mormon faith, but the media and kooks here will worry about Romney's "grandfather's marriage beliefs."

Just wait till they tie the anti-black views of the Mormon church on Romney's great, great, grandfather.

Yes...Religious voters will flock to the Mormon

I think they'll flock to him before they'll flock to some guy who isn't honest about his religion.

Also, FYI, Harry Reid is a Mormon. John Huntsman is a Mormon.

Seems it only matters with Mitt.

 

[HUGGY]

It is an honest approach. If it stands, the Church will have to close it's doors to all non-Catholics. That may not seem like a big deal to you... you probably aren't affected... but the people affected - non-Catholics - are among the poorest and most needy Americans. So basically, the damage will be for them - not for you.

Such selfishness by Americans... by the ones who claim 'tolerance'... fucking laughable.

The churches take advantage of peoples misery to sell thier lies.

The 12 step programs come to mind... It's not about help for helps sake. It's always about conversion.

That is fucking bullshit, diaper boy. Absolutely bullshit. You've clearly never required the services of a Catholic Hospital.... or maybe you have - you just didn't know it. Because they tend not to have a Bible on every bed and a Priest for every ward.

You allow 'hatred' of the faith to blind you to reality. Unsurprising, but vaguely disappointing.

OK...It is not ALWAYS about conversion...feel better?

 

[Sarah G]

Oh, it's SUNDAY MORNING "PREACHER."

But you're here.....

Go away liar.

You are a welfare loser sitting in your underwear behind a computer, nothing more.

You and Obamination are fake Christians.

Oh, I've never heard a wannabe preacher brag about their daughter killing unborn babieS.

Where did I say he bragged about it????

Delusional again?

Hey, put your responses below the quote. It makes more sense that way. Not that the rhetorical commentary is related in any way to logic but at least it is more readable.

Quote, then response. Ok?

 

[sealybobo]

Not just religous voters, ALL ignorant voters. If it weren't for ignorant voters, one of two things would happen. Either politicians and Washington wouldn't be so corrupt, or Democrats would have 100 seats in the senate.

George Carlin was right. He doesn't blame the politicians. Where do they come from? They don't come from a 3rd realm. They come from US homes, schools, churches, families. Of course ignorant citizens have a corrupt government.

How did they divide us? One way was with religion. Poor and middle class people voting GOP because of either God, Gays or Guns.

Voting against their own financial interests for what? Abortion?

Are you ok being a surf or peasant as long as they reverse roe v wade?

A lot of middle class voters think they got it good so they want to protect the status quo, until it happens to them. An illness that bankrupts them. Or they get unemployed and the GOP cuts back on how many weeks they give unemployment. I've seen it happen a million times.

But still poor and middle class GOP voters don't get it. Look at how the GOP lied us into wars and trashed the economy and they still defend the party.

Luckily the young voters aren't so brainwashed.

History repeats itself. 1948, Harry Truman had to deal with a do nothing congress. They tried to sabotage him like today's GOP are trying to do to Obama. He was expected to lose re election. But he won in a landslide. And the Dems took back the house.

History will repeat itself.

 

[GoneBezerk]

The men in white coats have been looking for you. Quick hide....

Not just religous voters, ALL ignorant voters. If it weren't for ignorant voters, one of two things would happen. Either politicians and Washington wouldn't be so corrupt, or Democrats would have 100 seats in the senate.

George Carlin was right. He doesn't blame the politicians. Where do they come from? They don't come from a 3rd realm. They come from US homes, schools, churches, families. Of course ignorant citizens have a corrupt government.

How did they divide us? One way was with religion. Poor and middle class people voting GOP because of either God, Gays or Guns.

Voting against their own financial interests for what? Abortion?

Are you ok being a surf or peasant as long as they reverse roe v wade?

A lot of middle class voters think they got it good so they want to protect the status quo, until it happens to them. An illness that bankrupts them. Or they get unemployed and the GOP cuts back on how many weeks they give unemployment. I've seen it happen a million times.

But still poor and middle class GOP voters don't get it. Look at how the GOP lied us into wars and trashed the economy and they still defend the party.

Luckily the young voters aren't so brainwashed.

History repeats itself. 1948, Harry Truman had to deal with a do nothing congress. They tried to sabotage him like today's GOP are trying to do to Obama. He was expected to lose re election. But he won in a landslide. And the Dems took back the house.

History will repeat itself.

 

[California Girl]

The churches take advantage of peoples misery to sell thier lies.

The 12 step programs come to mind... It's not about help for helps sake. It's always about conversion.

That is fucking bullshit, diaper boy. Absolutely bullshit. You've clearly never required the services of a Catholic Hospital.... or maybe you have - you just didn't know it. Because they tend not to have a Bible on every bed and a Priest for every ward.

You allow 'hatred' of the faith to blind you to reality. Unsurprising, but vaguely disappointing.

OK...It is not ALWAYS about conversion...feel better?

The services provided by the Church are never about 'conversion'. It's about Charity, it's our Christian Duty. Something that may be above your intellectual pay grade.

 

[Full-Auto]

Not just religous voters, ALL ignorant voters. If it weren't for ignorant voters, one of two things would happen. Either politicians and Washington wouldn't be so corrupt, or Democrats would have 100 seats in the senate.

George Carlin was right. He doesn't blame the politicians. Where do they come from? They don't come from a 3rd realm. They come from US homes, schools, churches, families. Of course ignorant citizens have a corrupt government.

How did they divide us? One way was with religion. Poor and middle class people voting GOP because of either God, Gays or Guns.

Voting against their own financial interests for what? Abortion?

Are you ok being a surf or peasant as long as they reverse roe v wade?

A lot of middle class voters think they got it good so they want to protect the status quo, until it happens to them. An illness that bankrupts them. Or they get unemployed and the GOP cuts back on how many weeks they give unemployment. I've seen it happen a million times.

But still poor and middle class GOP voters don't get it. Look at how the GOP lied us into wars and trashed the economy and they still defend the party.

Luckily the young voters aren't so brainwashed.

History repeats itself. 1948, Harry Truman had to deal with a do nothing congress. They tried to sabotage him like today's GOP are trying to do to Obama. He was expected to lose re election. But he won in a landslide. And the Dems took back the house.

History will repeat itself.

Understand one thing about politics.

Repubs do well when people believe they have a chance at being successful, dems do well when people have lost hope.

I will not vote for democrats, they are and have been the most despicable and corrupt through out history. Piss off as they would say.

 

[GoneBezerk]

No my words/response are more important than your babble, so it goes on top where it is upfront and easier to read.

You need to help your fellow lib to church so it can go preach, instead of being the style poster judge.

Oh, it's SUNDAY MORNING "PREACHER."

But you're here.....

Go away liar.

You are a welfare loser sitting in your underwear behind a computer, nothing more.

Where did I say he bragged about it????

Delusional again?

Hey, put your responses below the quote. It makes more sense that way. Not that the rhetorical commentary is related in any way to logic but at least it is more readable.

Quote, then response. Ok?

 

[Cowman]

Want to know why Obama is trying to come off like he's Jesus, again?

Please explain to me how Obama is trying to come off like he's Jesus.

Stop worshiping Obama. Why does nobody see it except you wacky religious conservatives?

 

[sealybobo]

The poor and middle class' wages haven't kept up with inflation. We make the same as we did in the 1970's. Time to give us a raise.

The rich have never been richer. Since before Reagan, they have waged class warfare on the middle class and poor. They used illegals to attack the poor and they used NAFTA to attack our unions and middle class.

It is time to fight back. Vote democratic and end the bush tax breaks.

Time to spread that wealth they STOLE from us. Think about it. They crashed the economy, our homes are worth nothing, our 401k's suck, we make no interest on our savings now, etc. And they have never been richer? Anyone not think this was done on purpose?

Well we need to tax the rich and fix the economy. Tax companies that went overseas. Bring them back home. Give them a tax holiday.

I'm sick of the truth being "radical". Everything I'm saying is fact. But Fox News would call me a socialist? Stop being brainwashed. The rich have all the wealth. And they control our government. Citizens United? Sounds good, but is very bad. Bush stole the 2000 election and put corrupt judges on the supreme court, lied us into iraq, and the gop are bankrupting the country on purpose. They love high unemployment because it lowers wages.

Bush lost 7 million jobs and the GOP said things were good. Obama's adding 300,000 jobs a month and they say its not good enough.

 

[sealybobo]

Not just religous voters, ALL ignorant voters. If it weren't for ignorant voters, one of two things would happen. Either politicians and Washington wouldn't be so corrupt, or Democrats would have 100 seats in the senate.

George Carlin was right. He doesn't blame the politicians. Where do they come from? They don't come from a 3rd realm. They come from US homes, schools, churches, families. Of course ignorant citizens have a corrupt government.

How did they divide us? One way was with religion. Poor and middle class people voting GOP because of either God, Gays or Guns.

Voting against their own financial interests for what? Abortion?

Are you ok being a surf or peasant as long as they reverse roe v wade?

A lot of middle class voters think they got it good so they want to protect the status quo, until it happens to them. An illness that bankrupts them. Or they get unemployed and the GOP cuts back on how many weeks they give unemployment. I've seen it happen a million times.

But still poor and middle class GOP voters don't get it. Look at how the GOP lied us into wars and trashed the economy and they still defend the party.

Luckily the young voters aren't so brainwashed.

History repeats itself. 1948, Harry Truman had to deal with a do nothing congress. They tried to sabotage him like today's GOP are trying to do to Obama. He was expected to lose re election. But he won in a landslide. And the Dems took back the house.

History will repeat itself.

Understand one thing about politics.

Repubs do well when people believe they have a chance at being successful, dems do well when people have lost hope.

I will not vote for democrats, they are and have been the most despicable and corrupt through out history. Piss off as they would say.

Seems to me that people vote GOP when they don't understand what the GOP is all about. Take 2000 for example. Things were good and the ignorant electorate voted for GW Bush instead of Gore because they could drink a beer with him.

Bush/Chaney were the most corrupt in history. You just don't realize it because the media has been taken over by corporations and they control the message.

Forget history. The GOP isn't the same party that it was when Reagan was in office, was it? No, it is not. It is much worse. So parties change. Lincoln freed the slaves. He was a Republican. That doesn't mean the GOP today is the party for black people. Black people left the GOP when the GOP shit on them during the Great Mississippi Flood. 1920's I believe? And the dems lost the south during the civil rights movement.

Today, if you are not rich, you need to vote out the GOP.

 

[HUGGY]

That is fucking bullshit, diaper boy. Absolutely bullshit. You've clearly never required the services of a Catholic Hospital.... or maybe you have - you just didn't know it. Because they tend not to have a Bible on every bed and a Priest for every ward.

You allow 'hatred' of the faith to blind you to reality. Unsurprising, but vaguely disappointing.

OK...It is not ALWAYS about conversion...feel better?

The services provided by the Church are never about 'conversion'. It's about Charity, it's our Christian Duty. Something that may be above your intellectual pay grade.

That's what I appreciate about you CG...you keep everything so warm and personal-like. In the spirit of "charity" I'm sure...

 

[California Girl]

OK...It is not ALWAYS about conversion...feel better?

The services provided by the Church are never about 'conversion'. It's about Charity, it's our Christian Duty. Something that may be above your intellectual pay grade.

That's what I appreciate about you CG...you keep everything so warm and personal-like. In the spirit of "charity" I'm sure...

I'm a charitable individual. But I suffer from a low tolerance for idiots. Your comments were idiocy. The Church doesn't instruct me to suffer fools gladly.

You're wrong about the Church in your assertion about 'conversions'. If we were concerned about membership, we'd shout about all the good things we do in this country, and around the world. But we do not. Because we do not seek approval, converts or glory. However, if you prefer your fictional account, that's cool.

 

[HUGGY]

The services provided by the Church are never about 'conversion'. It's about Charity, it's our Christian Duty. Something that may be above your intellectual pay grade.

That's what I appreciate about you CG...you keep everything so warm and personal-like. In the spirit of "charity" I'm sure...

I'm a charitable individual. But I suffer from a low tolerance for idiots. Your comments were idiocy. The Church doesn't instruct me to suffer fools gladly.

You're wrong about the Church in your assertion about 'conversions'. If we were concerned about membership, we'd shout about all the good things we do in this country, and around the world. But we do not. Because we do not seek approval, converts or glory. However, if you prefer your fictional account, that's cool.

You REALLY have been away too long Honey Butt! I agree THAT is the way it USED to be. Both the Catholics and Mormans advertise thier wares and "good works" on the television constantly THESE days. That is one of my minor quibbles with your point of view of America...it's so 90's.

You really need to catch up with the times Doll Face.

 

[sfcalifornia]

Certainly, you are right about Catholics.... but, this time around, with Obama trying to force the Church to fund abortions..... he stands a very strong chance of losing a significant amount of votes from us. Generally speaking, while Catholics might accept birth control... they do not accept abortion.

He is not trying to get them to fund abortions. It is contraceptives that the argument is about. I thought you would understand the difference. <shrug>

Besides there are many pro choicers out here.

I'm aware there are many pro choicers out there. I support their right to be pro choice. I just wish that you would do likewise and support the Catholic Church's stance not to be forced by government to provide services that are against our core beliefs.

If this stance by the government is successful.... Catholic Hospitals will be forced to close their doors to anyone who is not Catholic. Currently, those hospitals provide care and treatment to anyone - regardless of race, color, creed or sexual orientation.... and most of that care is funded by the Church - not by your taxes. We ask nothing in return for that. Other than we are not forced to provide services that we cannot provide. Surely, you see that?

Who would force Catholic Hospitals to close their doors to non-Catholics? The government? Nope. The Catholic leaders.

And they would be closing their doors to non-Catholics based on an ideology which is becoming more and more irrelevant in today's society.

 

[California Girl]

That's what I appreciate about you CG...you keep everything so warm and personal-like. In the spirit of "charity" I'm sure...

I'm a charitable individual. But I suffer from a low tolerance for idiots. Your comments were idiocy. The Church doesn't instruct me to suffer fools gladly.

You're wrong about the Church in your assertion about 'conversions'. If we were concerned about membership, we'd shout about all the good things we do in this country, and around the world. But we do not. Because we do not seek approval, converts or glory. However, if you prefer your fictional account, that's cool.

You REALLY have been away too long Honey Butt! I agree THAT is the way it USED to be. Both the Catholics and Mormans advertise thier wares and "good works" on the television constantly THESE days. That is one of my minor quibbles with your point of view of America...it's so 90's.

You really need to catch up with the times Doll Face.

If you want to engage with me on a topic, I suggest you knock off the misogynistic bullshit.

 

[HUGGY]

I'm a charitable individual. But I suffer from a low tolerance for idiots. Your comments were idiocy. The Church doesn't instruct me to suffer fools gladly.

You're wrong about the Church in your assertion about 'conversions'. If we were concerned about membership, we'd shout about all the good things we do in this country, and around the world. But we do not. Because we do not seek approval, converts or glory. However, if you prefer your fictional account, that's cool.

You REALLY have been away too long Honey Butt! I agree THAT is the way it USED to be. Both the Catholics and Mormans advertise thier wares and "good works" on the television constantly THESE days. That is one of my minor quibbles with your point of view of America...it's so 90's.

You really need to catch up with the times Doll Face.

If you want to engage with me on a topic, I suggest you knock off the misogynistic bullshit.

Why?.. Does it appear I am "talking down" to you? My My...Not good enough for the Gander? So my form of "sexist humorous" disrespect is less appealing than your more direct snippy bitchy know it all variety?

6 of 1... half a dozen of the other. You know I only respond to your posts because I know you like the attention...

 

[sfcalifornia]

You REALLY have been away too long Honey Butt! I agree THAT is the way it USED to be. Both the Catholics and Mormans advertise thier wares and "good works" on the television constantly THESE days. That is one of my minor quibbles with your point of view of America...it's so 90's.

You really need to catch up with the times Doll Face.

If you want to engage with me on a topic, I suggest you knock off the misogynistic bullshit.

Why?.. Does it appear I am "talking down" to you? My My...Not good enough for the Gander? So my form of "sexist humorous" disrespect is less appealing than your more direct snippy bitchy know it all variety?

6 of 1... half a dozen of the other. You know I only respond to your posts because I know you like the attention...

Honey Butt and Doll Face aren't gender specific.

Diaper Boy, however, clearly shows California Girl is a misandrist, as well as a hypocrite.

LOL I usually like to respond to CaliGirl's posts in order to point out she's full of shit.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I'm aware there are many pro choicers out there. I support their right to be pro choice. I just wish that you would do likewise and support the Catholic Church's stance not to be forced by government to provide services that are against our core beliefs.

That’s not the situation. If a Catholic hospital is going to function in a secular capacity as a secular employer, it must be subject to the same laws as any other employer. Non-Catholic employees are entitled to comprehensive health insurance, regardless the employer’s religions affiliation.

Indeed, a Catholic hospital is required to abide by other employment laws and policies, such as work hours and pay rates.

If this stance by the government is successful.... Catholic Hospitals will be forced to close their doors to anyone who is not Catholic. Currently, those hospitals provide care and treatment to anyone - regardless of race, color, creed or sexual orientation.... and most of that care is funded by the Church - not by your taxes. We ask nothing in return for that. Other than we are not forced to provide services that we cannot provide. Surely, you see that?

Catholic hospitals won’t be forced to close their doors, that’s baseless hyperbole. And Catholic hospitals aren’t being required to provide any services they object to, they’re providing medical insurance to their employees, nothing more. What treatment the insurance pays for is a private matter between the employee/patient and his doctor, and considered medically necessary accordingly.

This is yet another non-issue contrived by the right in an effort to realize some perceived political advantage.

 

[California Girl]

You REALLY have been away too long Honey Butt! I agree THAT is the way it USED to be. Both the Catholics and Mormans advertise thier wares and "good works" on the television constantly THESE days. That is one of my minor quibbles with your point of view of America...it's so 90's.

You really need to catch up with the times Doll Face.

If you want to engage with me on a topic, I suggest you knock off the misogynistic bullshit.

Why?.. Does it appear I am "talking down" to you? My My...Not good enough for the Gander? So my form of "sexist humorous" disrespect is less appealing than your more direct snippy bitchy know it all variety?

6 of 1... half a dozen of the other. You know I only respond to your posts because I know you like the attention...

No, you're not 'talking down' to me, you're making gender the issue... which is sexist. I have no problem dealing with sexists. Sexism, like racism, comes from a lack of intellect. I'm cool with that.

And... you 'know' nothing about me. That you think you do just shows that lack of intellect I referred to above.