U.S. tells Moscow : " Putin to pull back from Ukraine or face painful sanctions". if Moscow invades Ukraine again, will Biden do what R. Reagan did ?

[bripat9643]

In this case they will just sell it to the Russians.

Why would they sell them to the Russians?

 

[bendog]

Reagan was unable to stop the Soviets in their actions nor was Reagan able to cause the USSR to confront it's own reformation.

Well he did force them to face their own actions. He forced the Soviets to abandon their empire. That's what Putin is about. He views that as a worse catastrophe than the Holocaust or either World War ... or even the famine Stalin caused in Ukraine that literally starved three million people to death.

 

[JWBooth]

 

[bendog]

It is one of the reasons WHY they invaded Ukraine.

It's bs. Russia already has a court judgment for their money. NS2 and their Belarus pipeline would have allowed the russians to sell gas to the EU without ever touching Ukraine. Ukraine would not have been able to buy any gas without doing something about it's judgment debt. Putin's invasion is simply to gain a vassal state as it had before 1990. Whatever Rigby's agenda in posting propaganda is, it ain't about Russia's bill for the Ukraine.

Unless, the EU let's up on sanctions, Putin is not going to win because the freezing of Russian assets and preventing them from buying or selling anything besides their oil "should" should cause a recession so severe that the Russians will have nothing they can't produce. That means no parts for drilling, missing parts for everything. And even when they are paid for oil, all they can do is watch the money sit in a bank that cannot transfer it outside of Russia.

The russians can probably feed themselves, but beyond that .....

Global sanctions will trigger a 'Russian depression': Bill Browder

Sanctions will eventually cause the Russian economy to fall into a full-fledged depression, Bill Browder told Yahoo Finance Editor-in-Chief Andy Serwer in a new interview.

www.aol.com

Russian sanctions risk 'developing world debt crisis' â not a Lehman moment

Russian president Vladimir Putin's push to sanction-proof Russia has backfired, said Adam Posen, president of the Peterson Institute on Tuesday.

www.marketwatch.com

And Russia will be assessed financial costs of the physical damage, which will far outweigh what Ukraine owed them.

 

[B. Kidd]

It is one of the reasons WHY they invaded Ukraine.

It's bs. Russia already has a court judgment for their money. NS2 and their Belarus pipeline would have allowed the russians to sell gas to the EU without ever touching Ukraine. Putin's invasion is simply to gain a vassal state as it had before 1990. Whatever Rigby's agenda in posting propaganda is, it ain't about Russia's bill for the Ukraine.

Unless, Putin is not going to win because the freezing of Russian assets and preventing them from buying or selling anything besides their oil "should" should cause a recession so severe that the Russians will have nothing they can't produce. That means no parts for drilling, missing parts for everything. And even when they are paid for oil, all they can do is watch the money sit in a bank that cannot transfer it outside of Russia.

Global sanctions will trigger a 'Russian depression': Bill Browder

Sanctions will eventually cause the Russian economy to fall into a full-fledged depression, Bill Browder told Yahoo Finance Editor-in-Chief Andy Serwer in a new interview.

www.aol.com

Russian sanctions risk 'developing world debt crisis' â not a Lehman moment

Russian president Vladimir Putin's push to sanction-proof Russia has backfired, said Adam Posen, president of the Peterson Institute on Tuesday.

www.marketwatch.com

And Russia will be assessed financial costs of the physical damage, which will far outweigh what Ukraine owed them.

Whose gonna collect?

 

[bendog]

Whose gonna collect?

What do you mean? Do you think we paid Iran back just cause we're nice?

 

[B. Kidd]

What do you mean? Do you think we paid Iran back just cause we're nice?

You answered with a question related to some other country.

I ask again, whose gonna collect?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What do you mean? Do you think we paid Iran back just cause we're nice?

We paid back Iran because Obama was a fucking moron.

 

[bendog]

We paid back Iran because Obama was a fucking moron.

WE did not send them money. Essentially, for banks were prohibited from giving them their own money until sanctions were lifted. Once they were, there was no legal way to keep them from getting their own money.

Democrats and Obama did not give $150 billion to Iran

CLAIM: Posts circulating widely online state that “The Democrats and President Obama gave Iran 150 Billion Dollars and got nothing, but they can’t give 5 Billion Dollars for National Security and a Wall?”

apnews.com

similarly, if and when Russia is sanctioned for deaths and monetary judgments from war crimes, Ukraine or Ukranians who have individ damages can go after them wherever Russia has money.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

WE did not send them money. Essentially, for banks were prohibited from giving them their own money until sanctions were lifted. Once they were, there was no legal way to keep them from getting their own money.

Democrats and Obama did not give $150 billion to Iran

CLAIM: Posts circulating widely online state that “The Democrats and President Obama gave Iran 150 Billion Dollars and got nothing, but they can’t give 5 Billion Dollars for National Security and a Wall?”

apnews.com

similarly, if and when Russia is sanctioned for deaths and monetary judgments from war crimes, Ukraine or Ukranians who have individ damages can go after them wherever Russia has money.

Obama was a moron to allow them to get any of that money.

 

[ding]

It's bs. Russia already has a court judgment for their money. NS2 and their Belarus pipeline would have allowed the russians to sell gas to the EU without ever touching Ukraine. Ukraine would not have been able to buy any gas without doing something about it's judgment debt. Putin's invasion is simply to gain a vassal state as it had before 1990. Whatever Rigby's agenda in posting propaganda is, it ain't about Russia's bill for the Ukraine.

Unless, the EU let's up on sanctions, Putin is not going to win because the freezing of Russian assets and preventing them from buying or selling anything besides their oil "should" should cause a recession so severe that the Russians will have nothing they can't produce. That means no parts for drilling, missing parts for everything. And even when they are paid for oil, all they can do is watch the money sit in a bank that cannot transfer it outside of Russia.

The russians can probably feed themselves, but beyond that .....

Global sanctions will trigger a 'Russian depression': Bill Browder

Sanctions will eventually cause the Russian economy to fall into a full-fledged depression, Bill Browder told Yahoo Finance Editor-in-Chief Andy Serwer in a new interview.

www.aol.com

Russian sanctions risk 'developing world debt crisis' â not a Lehman moment

Russian president Vladimir Putin's push to sanction-proof Russia has backfired, said Adam Posen, president of the Peterson Institute on Tuesday.

www.marketwatch.com

And Russia will be assessed financial costs of the physical damage, which will far outweigh what Ukraine owed them.

At what point do you think Russia says fuck it and launches it's nukes? Cause if what you are saying is true why wouldn't they?

 

[Moonglow]

Well he did force them to face their own actions. He forced the Soviets to abandon their empire. That's what Putin is about. He views that as a worse catastrophe than the Holocaust or either World War ... or even the famine Stalin caused in Ukraine that literally starved three million people to death.

I see, so according to you, Reagan is mightier than God in the persuasion department?

 

[ding]

Reagan was unable to stop the Soviets in their actions nor was Reagan able to cause the USSR to confront it's own reformation.

Pretty sure history records he stopped them by forcing them to spend money they didn't have.

 

[ding]

We paid back Iran because Obama was a fucking moron.

Paid back? Is this like your low productivity jobs argument? Don't you mean released their funds? Or is there something I am missing?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Paid back? Is this like your low productivity jobs argument? Don't you mean released their funds? Or is there something I am missing?

There's a lot you're missing.

 

[Augustine_]

The United States urged Russia on Wednesday to pull back its troops from the Ukrainian border, warning that a Russian invasion would provoke sanctions that would hit Moscow harder than any imposed until now.

"We don't know whether President (Vladimir) Putin has made the decision to invade. We do know that he is putting in place the capacity to do so on short order should he so decide," U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said.


"Should Russia follow the path of confrontation, when it comes to Ukraine, we've made clear that we will respond resolutely, including with a range of high impact economic measures that we have refrained from pursuing in the past."

U.S. tells Russia to pull back from Ukraine or face painful sanctions

The United States urged Russia on Wednesday to pull back its troops from the Ukrainian border, warning that a Russian invasion would provoke sanctions that would hit Moscow harder than any imposed until now.

www.reuters.com

Its clear like a sunny day that USA sanctions from the hell can bring Putin´s empire down , if Moscow invades Ukraine again, will Biden do what R. Reagan did to ussr&Marxism ?

Reagan fans love to argue that communism doesn't collapse on its own. Very interesting.

 

[ding]

There's a lot you're missing.

I only put that in there as an out. Looks like I didn't need it. I win again!!!!!!

So tell me more about this money we paid back?

pay back. 1. To pay or return (what is owed as a debt). 2. To repay (a person who is owed a debt).

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I only put that in there as an out. Looks like I didn't need it. I win again!!!!!!

So tell me more about this money we paid back?

pay back. 1. To pay or return (what is owed as a debt). 2. To repay (a person who is owed a debt).

We shouldn't give any money to a terrorist regime, even if we owed it to them.

 

[ding]

We shouldn't give any money to a terrorist regime, even if we owed it to them.

Ok, that's better language but was it money we owed them or was it their money we seized? I thought it was the latter.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Ok, that's better language but was it money we owed them or was it their money we seized? I thought it was the latter.

It was money the Shah spent for weapons. When the mullahs took over, we canceled the order and kept the money.

US families of Iranian terror victims were suing Iran hoping to be paid from those accounts.
Rather than letting them, Obama had it sent to the thugs in Iran.