U.S. Authorizes New Weapons Shipments to Ukraine

[toobfreak]

My concerns exactly, we better not have need of these or any of the other stuff we send over while we are trying to replace them.

You didn't hear? Weeks ago, Raytheon or whomever makes our Stinger missiles announced that we had used up a 12 year supply and they were OUT.

As Raytheon struggles to replenish Stinger missiles, lawmaker pushes Defense Production Act

The U.S. may not be able to make more of the shoulder-fired Stinger anti-aircraft missiles it has been sending to Ukraine until at least 2023, the manufacturer, Raytheon Technologies said Tuesday.

www.defensenews.com

Raytheon Will Not Resume Mass Production of Stinger Missiles Until 2023

Raytheon won't be able to accelerate production of Stinger anti-aircraft missiles before 2023 due to a lack of available parts, the company's chief warned.

www.thedefensepost.com

 

[toobfreak]

This is money well spent if you are comparing it to wall construction.

Only a brain-diseased, syphilitic moron would think money is better spent giving it away to another country which doesn't mean jack shit to us nor do us a thing in return, than spent on our own border or feeding Americans.

Must be talking about YOU.

 

[Redfish]

Because it eliminates Russia as a threat to the West

We spend $850 Billion on our military. Much of that is to counter the threat of Russia.

After seeing how inept their military is and having depleted a large percent of their weapon stockpiles with limited chance to replace them.

Ukraine is demonstrating how effective our weapons systems are and what their shortfalls are.

Money well spent

your ignorance is amazing. Russia is not a threat to the "west". They can barely feed their people, their military is a mess, their economy is a shambles. Why do we need to keep them in the enemy status? who benefits from that besides the weapon industry and the politicians who are bribed by them?

 

[Redfish]

You are just making shit up

answer the questions, stop lying.

 

[JGalt]

I'm curious, JG, isn't the House in charge of all military appropriations and spending? Who is approving funding a foreign war with no actual declaration of war?

And don't let anyone try to tell me we ain't at war with Russia!

We are at war with Russia, and it's a proxy war. Just like we were at war with China during the 1950's Korean "police action" and the Vietnam war.

 

[Redfish]

Obviously, we did

We are not sending US Troops to do the fighting for Ukraine. Unlike the S Vietnam forces, Ukraine is doing well on its own

we have to send troops with the missiles, or use US troops to train the Ukrainians. either way we will be involved and american kids will be at risk or being killed-----------------for what?

 

[JGalt]

your ignorance is amazing. Russia is not a threat to the "west". They can barely feed their people, their military is a mess, their economy is a shambles. Why do we need to keep them in the enemy status? who benefits from that besides the weapon industry and the politicians who are bribed by them?

"But...Hillary. It was her time and those Russians ruined it..."

 

[toobfreak]

"But...Hillary. It was her time and those Russians ruined it..."

Hillary missed her opportunity.

 

[Redfish]

Hillary missed her opportunity.



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she is pissed because they did not cheat enough for her to win.

 

[toobfreak]

she is pissed because they did not cheat enough for her to win.

And Bill is out chasing young 50 year old skirts.

Hillary drowns the sorrows of her failed life.

 

[odanny]

Only a brain-diseased, syphilitic moron would think money is better spent giving it away to another country which doesn't mean jack shit to us nor do us a thing in return, than spent on our own border or feeding Americans.

Must be talking about YOU.

I get it, you're upset your country is getting their assed kicked by a bunch of civilians with hand me down weapons. I've got some bad news for you: the weapons Ukraine will be fighting with are only going to get more lethal, moving forward.

Cheers.

 

[odanny]

there was a poll taken in Ukraine last year, roughly half of those polled wanted to rejoin Russia …<snip>

Of course they do.

 

[toobfreak]

I get it, you're upset your country is getting their assed kicked by a bunch of civilians with hand me down weapons.

Idiot, my country is getting its ass kicked by an 80 year old venal, diaper-ridden, senile, stuttering Chinese-agent. That is, until he is impeached.

I've got some bad news for you

You've renewed your subscription to My Whiny Bitch Weekly?

: the weapons Ukraine will be fighting with are only going to get more lethal, moving forward.

Should that concern me, asshole? It only does that I'm paying for them, fuckmouth.

Surprise, surprise, Putin's weapons might get a whole lot more lethal too, asshole triggered bitch.

Now go get me some catsup for my fries, bitch.

 

[odanny]

Should that concern me, asshole? It only does that I'm paying for them, fuckmouth.

You're not paying for shit, and, in fact, you are getting paid, in rubles, for being here.

 

[rightwinger]

we have to send troops with the missiles, or use US troops to train the Ukrainians. either way we will be involved and american kids will be at risk or being killed-----------------for what?

Actually, we don’t.
You keep saying the US will get involved with no proof

Repeating it over and over doesnt prove your case

 

[Blaster]

Actually, we don’t.
You keep saying the US will get involved with no proof

Repeating it over and over doesnt prove your case

The US is already involved.

 

[rightwinger]

The US is already involved.

How many boots on the ground?

 

[beautress]

I spend almost half of my life in Ukraine, оn my father's side, my ancestors lived in Ukraine way back in the 19th century. What is your qualification about the history of Ukraine? The name of the country that you heard once and that you can't find on the map?

Long before Russia's invasion of the Ukraine last year, I was very upset to learn that both China and Russia had killed masses of people--100 million in China during the WWII era when Mao knew the responsible countries of the world were busy fighting off Hitler's Germans or horrified to hear of the bombings of London, and hostile takeovers of several European countries by Hitler's Brown-shirters who were bloody hateful in their killings and brainwashed out the wazoo by Hitler's slick but pleasing words to the German people (with notable exceptions in the upper classes who were silenced by just about every political maneuver known to mankind.) For some reason, I wanted to know more about our ally in WWII, Russia, and why some prominent Americans couldn't stand Stalin, who was Russia's leader at the time who only intervened in the European brawl because he hated the Germans with whom Russia had a history in which they battled off and on with each other for almost a thousand years over Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania et al from year one to the recorded millennia that followed. Russia hit the Ukraine with millions of deaths there from the thirties through WWII, taking advantage of the Western world's onus that seemed to be exclusively obsessed with holding the line on the Nazi nation whose majority believed Hitler's smooth talking, or at least wanted to believe in him. Big mistake. The Germans sank the USS Reuben James (DD-245) which was escorting Convoy HX 156, with a loss of 115 lives. Reuben James was the first U.S. Navy ship lost to enemy action during World War II and sealed the deal with American/European alliances against the Nazis.

I was just interested in why the Allies were less than friendly with Russia's Stalin, who was secretly starving out the farmers of the Ukraine with KGB ruthlessness of visiting each farm regularly to make sure there was no food in farm pantries, kitchens, and underground cellars. Millions were starved to death who weren't murdered outright by KGB agents from the thirties through WWII. Why Putin decided he would repunish the Ukraine in our lifetime, for freebies and power, I can't wrap my mind around. He can't seem to stop, although only 25% of the Russian people approve. Putin ought to throw in the towel, because his former allies are fed up with the hundred schools, libraries, and stores of every description that he has pounded with Hand-to-hand combat, supersonic missiles, and snipers. He's targeting civilians as well as going after Ukraine military that has defended as best as they can against the largest country in the world. If Putin doesn't knock it off, the Russians will be ruled by way of Kyiv after a humiliating defeat they are waging against their own Mother Russia. Not smart, Putin. Putin needs to have someone translate Kenny Rogers' song the Gambler.

So I wiil: Mr Putin:


Emphasis: Ya gotta know when to fold 'em.​

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

War mongers love sending weapons to fascists.
Not sure if they actually care, or if they are just supporting what they are told to support.

That conservatives seek to appease fascists comes as no surprise.

 

[rightwinger]

You don't think I can find it on a map? Seriously?

I'm glad you know of the Holodomor, it will help allow you to understand why Ukraine wants nothing to do with Russia, to say nothing of Russia blowing up hospitals, grade schools and apartment buildings.

Russia has done little to ingratiate themselves with the people they hope to rule