Two Threats: School Vouchers & Homeschooling

Flanders

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Winston Churchill famously said:

The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet.

WWII is fast fading from public discourse. Germany is one country again. The Huns are heading for the throats of children. Germany is fighting against homeschooling right here with Barack Taqiyya as their ally:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdlrViu4UP0&feature=player_embedded]Christian Family Facing Deportation For Homeschooling - FNC - Fox & Friends First - 2013.03.07 - YouTube[/ame]​

As WND reported, the Romeike case has been submitted to the U.S. Supreme Court. In 2010, an immigration judge granted asylum in the U.S. to the family, which fled Germany because their children were forced to go to public schools.

The Obama administration, unhappy with the outcome, appealed and obtained an order from a higher court that the family must return to Germany. The Obama administration has argued in court parents essentially have no right to determine how and what their children are taught, leaving the authority with the government.

The Clintons sent Elián González back to a Communist paradise. Barack Taqiyya wants to send an entire family back to this:

Four children, ages 7 to 14, have been forcibly taken from their Darmstadt, Germany, home by police armed with a battering ram, and their parents have been told they won’t see them again soon, all over the issue of homeschooling, according to a stunning new report from the Home School Legal Defense Association.

Police storm homeschool class, take children by force
'Officers brought a battering ram and were about to break the door in'
Published: 2 days ago
BOB UNRUH

Police storm homeschool class, take children by force

American parents who homeschool have few friends irrespective of the freedoms they are trying to access. At best, federal judges are lukewarm friends living in fear of retaliation from the Department of Education. The enemies of homeschooling are many. Naming them is self-explanatory:

1. The education industry.

2. The entire parasite class.

3. Organized religions that operate schools.

4. Propagandists.

Homeschooling is but one threat to the Socialist brainwashing machinery. School vouchers circumvent a ruling by the Department of Education’s favorite judge:


Judge Gone Wild

Ruling against parental rights is just one way Judge Stephen Reinhardt is trying to overturn American values.

He's the judge who says parental rights end at the schoolhouse door. . .

Citizen Magazine - Cover Story - Judge Gone Wild

Socialists/Communists are well-aware of the school voucher threat as this lawsuit shows:

Justice sues Louisiana to stop school voucher program – irony overwhelming
posted at 12:01 pm on August 27, 2013 by Bruce McQuain

Justice sues Louisiana to stop school voucher program ? irony overwhelming « Hot Air

Unlike homeschooling, the prospect of millions of kids escaping Socialism’s brainwashing by utilizing school vouchers goes right into the classroom. They can’t brainwash children when they are not in public school classrooms.
 
Now we get to start playing these same kinds of political games with health care. Huzzah!
 
but what if you are a teacher and not a socialist?

or is that impossible?

To squeeze berry: It’s not impossible, but pubic school curriculums are controlled by Socialist teachers’ unions and the Department of Education; so non-Socialist teachers teach the crap irrespective of their personal beliefs. In addition, teachers are highly educated; so they know what they are doing.

Let’s not downplay the number of teachers who are Socialists. There must be a lot them based on all of the reported stories about teachers punishing children who unknowingly resist the party line. I’d say Socialists are in the majority because they do not organize against the Socialists/Communists running their unions.

And then there are colleges and universities that force young adults to take at least one class that teaches the joys of collectivism if they want to graduate, not to mention the well-known political beliefs of most professors in higher education.

Teaching Socialism has been a worldwide movement since the late 19th century. The movement gained tremendous momentum in the second half of the 20th century —— along with the drive to establish a global government. In fact, there is every reason to believe the NEA is the driving force behind global government. Sad to say, turning teachers into the most wonderful of human beings was all done with tax dollars, and a tax dollar funded entertainment industry.

Finally, Socialism is the only religion that has a grip on children from every home environment. Imagine the outcry if Catholics, or Muslims, or Buddhists, had the authority through taxation to force their religion on every child in the public schools.
 
Totalitarians of every stripe have always hated teachers and intellectuals.

We see from the posts here attacking education and educators that there's nothing especially exceptional about the US crop of these ignorant turds.
 
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Totalitarians of every stripe have always hated teachers and intellectuals.

We see from the posts here attacking education and educators that there's nothing especially exceptional about the US crop of these ignorant turds.



There is a vast difference between hating teachers....I don't....and hating the socialist educrats who control the public education scam.



1. Before the Left took over the Democrat Party, even liberals understood and objected. Arthur Schlesinger, jr.,:
”The attack on the common American identity is the culmination of the cult of ethnicity. That attack was mounted in the first instance by European Americans of non-British origin (“unmeltable ethnics”) against the British foundations of American culture; then, latterly and massively, by Americans of non-European origin against the European foundations of that culture.”
Untitled Document


2. The indoctrination by ‘educators’ was intensified via the National History Standards. The document, supposed to examine what was most important for students to learn about America did not mention Daniel Webster, Robert E. Lee, Thomas Edison, or Albert Einstein.

a. “The federally funded “National History Standards” for elementary schools were released in 1994, cemented a revisionist view of American Communism for schoolteachers, as the guide mentions McCarthy over twenty times, while Edison and the Wright Brothers got no mention.

“It …repeatedly condemns McCarthyism as an unmitigated evil…[but] the Hiss-Chambers and Rosenberg cases, the two dominant controversies of the anticommunist era, are described with bland, neutral language crafted to keep from implying guilt while not being quite so foolhardy as to actually assert innocence..’National Standards’…implies that the cases are part and parcel of the McCartyite horror.”
From “In Denial,” by Haynes and Klehr, pg. 151

b. Issues of race, ethnicity and gender were emphasized nearly three times as much as political liberty and democracy.

c. In fact, the term “Left” refers to the values associated with the Western welfare state, secularism, and the vast array of attitudes and positions identified as Left from Karl Marx to contemporary socialist democrat parties and today’s Democratic Party in the United States. The Left-wing ‘trinity’ is race, gender, class.
Prager, "Still The Best Hope"
 
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Nobody attacks "teachers" or "education." Just like nobody opposes "immigration," and very, very few people "hate gays."

These are all Liberal distortions, intended to portray those who disagree with them as either ignorant, evil, or both. And to their ignorant constituents, such mischaracterizations allow them to disengage from the policy dialog without having to defend, for example, teachers' unions, Mexican border jumpers, and the destruction of the nuclear family.

Free public education is a relatively recent innovation, and it rightly should be treated as a free privilege - like using a public park for recreation - that can either be taken advantage of or not, at the citizens' option (the citizen being the parent in this case). The only case where truancy is relevant is when the parents have chosen to avail themselves of the free education for their children, but the children don't participate as necessary. Otherwise, if people want to handle their own education it should be entirely up to them.

As a product of parochial schools, I have also promoted the idea that alternate formal school systems should be able to draw public funds that are more or less equivalent to the amount saved by the State, in not having to educate those children. This would not be equal to the calculated per-student cost of the public schools, but something less than that, maybe about 50%.

But I'm not Emperor, at this time.
 

Totalitarians of every stripe have always hated teachers and intellectuals.

We see from the posts here attacking education and educators that there's nothing especially exceptional about the US crop of these ignorant turds.

To editec: Not intellectuals, just Public Trough Intellectuals.

And teachers are more like the parasitic Ichabod Crane than Mr. Chips:


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2muJDGdakCc&feature=player_embedded]Part 1 of Disney's banned Legend of Sleepy Hollow 1958 - YouTube[/ame]​

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvV4rmPGBTU&feature=player_embedded&list=PLBA1CE833D2A6B1F4]Part 2 of Disney's banned Legend of Sleepy Hollow 1958 - YouTube[/ame]​

Here’s another take on teachers that I always found accurate; not so much for the stick in this country thanks to lawsuits, but for the beatings Socialists administer to young minds:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTv9pmnA0m8&feature=player_embedded]How Green Was my Valley John Ford - YouTube[/ame]​
 
Totalitarians of every stripe have always hated teachers and intellectuals.

We see from the posts here attacking education and educators that there's nothing especially exceptional about the US crop of these ignorant turds.

Teachers don't control anything in education.

Overpaid government bureaucrats do.

Time and again it has been shown that home schooled kids are ahead of their public school counterparts and yet the vitriol towards home schooling grows every day as these parents are marginalized as religious nut cases or anti government loons.

That said if I were to have kids i would definitely home school them.
 
but what if you are a teacher and not a socialist?

or is that impossible?

To squeeze berry: It’s not impossible, but pubic school curriculums are controlled by Socialist teachers’ unions and the Department of Education; so non-Socialist teachers teach the crap irrespective of their personal beliefs. In addition, teachers are highly educated; so they know what they are doing.

Let’s not downplay the number of teachers who are Socialists. There must be a lot them based on all of the reported stories about teachers punishing children who unknowingly resist the party line. I’d say Socialists are in the majority because they do not organize against the Socialists/Communists running their unions.

And then there are colleges and universities that force young adults to take at least one class that teaches the joys of collectivism if they want to graduate, not to mention the well-known political beliefs of most professors in higher education.

Teaching Socialism has been a worldwide movement since the late 19th century. The movement gained tremendous momentum in the second half of the 20th century —— along with the drive to establish a global government. In fact, there is every reason to believe the NEA is the driving force behind global government. Sad to say, turning teachers into the most wonderful of human beings was all done with tax dollars, and a tax dollar funded entertainment industry.

Finally, Socialism is the only religion that has a grip on children from every home environment. Imagine the outcry if Catholics, or Muslims, or Buddhists, had the authority through taxation to force their religion on every child in the public schools.

bullshit

the teachers unions have nothing to do with curriculum.That is decided on the state and district level.

Not once has the union told me what or how to teach.

WTF do you get your info?
 
bullshit

the teachers unions have nothing to do with curriculum.That is decided on the state and district level.

Not once has the union told me what or how to teach.

WTF do you get your info?

To squeeze berry: You are one dumb son-of-a-bitch for a teacher if you do not know where curriculums originate. Union officials do not dictate curriculums directly to their members. Union officials work through the people they help elect —— and rely on for legislative protection. Ditto, the Department of Education that is so entrenched it can’t be shutdown because of the protective covering Democrats provide.
 
To make any generalization about "home schooled kids" is ridiculous. It all depends on who is doing the schooling - maybe an idiot, maybe a genius, maybe a genius with no teaching skills.
 
bullshit

the teachers unions have nothing to do with curriculum.That is decided on the state and district level.

Not once has the union told me what or how to teach.

WTF do you get your info?

To squeeze berry: You are one dumb son-of-a-bitch for a teacher if you do not know where curriculums originate. Union officials do not dictate curriculums directly to their members. Union officials work through the people they help elect —— and rely on for legislative protection. Ditto, the Department of Education that is so entrenched it can’t be shutdown because of the protective covering Democrats provide.
You did not spell curriculum correctly, twice, which shows you were not good at any school you attended.

Texass does not have schoolteacher unions and a committee by the state determines what text books are used. Same with the state of Louisiana. The Dept of Ed on gives 10% funding for schools. The curriculum chosen by the schools is okay-ed by committees that over see what curriculum is taught. School boards are elected by the local population.
 
Please show me proof what communistic values are being taught, I have seen no truth only hearsay and conjecture. What socialist dogma is being taught? Specific proof is all I ask.
 
To make any generalization about "home schooled kids" is ridiculous. It all depends on who is doing the schooling - maybe an idiot, maybe a genius, maybe a genius with no teaching skills.

Ridiculous?

Really?

1. Recent statistics from The College Board and the American College Testing Program (ACT) indicate that home schoolers are exceeding the national average test scores on both the SAT and the ACT college entrance exams. In 1999, the 2219 students who identified themselves as home schooled students on the SAT test, scored an average of 1083 (verbal 548, math 535), 67 points above the national average of 1016. A perfect SAT score is 1600. Also in 1999, 3616 home school students taking the ACT scored an average of 22.7, compared to the national average of 21, a perfect score being 36.
College-bound Home Schoolers Make Headlines (HSLDA | National Center News)


2. In short, the results found in the new study are consistent with 25 years of research, which show that as a group homeschoolers consistently perform above average academically. The Progress Report also shows that, even as the numbers and diversity of homeschoolers have grown tremendously over the past 10 years, homeschoolers have actually increased the already sizeable gap in academic achievement between themselves and their public school counterparts-moving from about 30 percentile points higher in the Rudner study (1998) to 37 percentile points higher in the Progress Report (2009).


a. Of course, an education movement which consistently shows that children can be educated to a standard significantly above the average public school student at a fraction of the cost—the average spent by participants in the Progress Report was about $500 per child per year as opposed to the public school average of nearly $10,000 per child per year—will inevitably draw attention from the K-12 public education industry.
HSLDA: New Nationwide Study Confirms Homeschool Academic Achievement
 
Please show me proof what communistic values are being taught, I have seen no truth only hearsay and conjecture. What socialist dogma is being taught? Specific proof is all I ask.



Elementary school fare:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GorqroigqM]Story of Stuff (2007, OFFICIAL Version) - YouTube[/ame]
 
To make any generalization about "home schooled kids" is ridiculous. It all depends on who is doing the schooling - maybe an idiot, maybe a genius, maybe a genius with no teaching skills.

The testing bears it out.

The same testing by the way used to make generalizations about public school students.
 
You did not spell curriculum correctly, twice, which shows you were not good at any school you attended.

Texass does not have schoolteacher unions and a committee by the state determines what text books are used. Same with the state of Louisiana. The Dept of Ed on gives 10% funding for schools. The curriculum chosen by the schools is okay-ed by committees that over see what curriculum is taught. School boards are elected by the local population.

To Moonglow: Check your dictionary for the plural of curriculum before you make a bigger fool of yourself.

And since you want to correct your betters you misspelled Texas. Of course being an asshole you might be hung up on the word ass as in Texass.

And you might learn how to use plural possessives as in schoolteachers’ unions.


Please show me proof what communistic values are being taught, I have seen no truth only hearsay and conjecture. What socialist dogma is being taught? Specific proof is all I ask.

To Moonglow: Take your pick:

 
bullshit

the teachers unions have nothing to do with curriculum.That is decided on the state and district level.

Not once has the union told me what or how to teach.

WTF do you get your info?

To squeeze berry: You are one dumb son-of-a-bitch for a teacher if you do not know where curriculums originate. Union officials do not dictate curriculums directly to their members. Union officials work through the people they help elect —— and rely on for legislative protection. Ditto, the Department of Education that is so entrenched it can’t be shutdown because of the protective covering Democrats provide.

I'm not a democrat either and there is no commie agenda.

where do you guys get these crazy ideas?

dems think we push religion

so I'm holding a bible in one hand and Mao's little red book in the other preaching out both sides of my mouth while fondling kids? :cuckoo:
 

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