Two key democrats have expressed concern about Obama becoming president

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  1. 4PeepsByPeeps
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    Hillary Clinton on many occassions challenged Obama's experience to be the right choice as our next President of the United States. In fact, she has expressed that John McCain is a better choice for president than Barack Obama. Don't believe me check out YouTube & type in "Hillary Clinton puts McCain above Obama"

    Then there is good old Joe Biden who expressed real concern of an Obama presidency as it relates to foreign policy. He warns the American people that America would face a major international crisis within the first 6 months of an Obama presidency.

    So if Hillary Clinton doesn't think Obama is the right candidate for president and Joe Biden thinks his presidential running mate doesn't exude the necessary strength to ward off major challenges from America's foreign enemies then why in the hell would anyone want Obama to become president?

    On a secondary note, LIBERAL MEDIA SUCKS! Americans need to get off their fat, lazy butts and research the platforms of the presidential candidates versus just getting their news from the skewed, ratings focused media outlets. Be an activist!
     
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    Yeah, people like Clinton and Biden have become the great paradoxical speakers of the democRatic party. I bet Kerry is jealous.

    Great post!
     
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    Thanks for the reprise on the now very passe primaries.....

    as for crises, we have had something or another about every six months for the past sixty years, so BFD. I am sure Obama will handle it better than that senile idiot from Arizona, or the super shopper from Alaska......

    The RNC could at least taken the heifer to Mervyn's, where the sales would have been a little savings, since they are already short of money..... but, on the other hand, what casn you expect from a welfare chick from Meth-Land Alaska, LOL.....

    I can see it now, some huge crisis, and they can't find her because she is hitting the designer racks as NM.
     
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    Awe, surely you don't mean that. Don't you want her to look nice when she presides over the Senate on a regular basis?
     
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    Help me out here,please. Please list the opponents of John S. McCain during the primaries that stood in line to state that indeed John was a much better choice than they? I realize that the list is so long it may take time so please feel free to give us just a few names at a time.
     
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    Having run Senator John McCain's campaign for president, I can recount a textbook example of a smear made against McCain in South Carolina during the 2000 presidential primary. We had just swept into the state from New Hampshire, where we had racked up a shocking, 19-point win over the heavily favored George W. Bush. What followed was a primary campaign that would make history for its negativity.

    In South Carolina, Bush Republicans were facing an opponent who was popular for his straight talk and Vietnam war record. They knew that if McCain won in South Carolina, he would likely win the nomination. With few substantive differences between Bush and McCain, the campaign was bound to turn personal. The situation was ripe for a smear.

    It didn't take much research to turn up a seemingly innocuous fact about the McCains: John and his wife, Cindy, have an adopted daughter named Bridget. Cindy found Bridget at Mother Theresa's orphanage in Bangladesh, brought her to the United States for medical treatment, and the family ultimately adopted her. Bridget has dark skin.

    Anonymous opponents used "push polling" to suggest that McCain's Bangladeshi born daughter was his own, illegitimate black child. In push polling, a voter gets a call, ostensibly from a polling company, asking which candidate the voter supports. In this case, if the "pollster" determined that the person was a McCain supporter, he made statements designed to create doubt about the senator.

    Thus, the "pollsters" asked McCain supporters if they would be more or less likely to vote for McCain if they knew he had fathered an illegitimate child who was black. In the conservative, race-conscious South, that's not a minor charge. We had no idea who made the phone calls, who paid for them, or how many calls were made. Effective and anonymous: the perfect smear campaign.

    Some aspects of this smear were hardly so subtle. Bob Jones University professor Richard Hand sent an e-mail to "fellow South Carolinians" stating that McCain had "chosen to sire children without marriage." It didn't take long for mainstream media to carry the charge. CNN interviewed Hand and put him on the spot: "Professor, you say that this man had children out of wedlock. He did not have children out of wedlock." Hand replied, "Wait a minute, that's a universal negative. Can you prove that there aren't any?"

    The Anatomy of a Smear Campaign
    The anatomy of a smear campaign - The Boston Globe

    What Bush did to McCain in the 2000 S. C. primary"

    Bush Waged Nasty Smear Campaign Against McCain in 2000
    Bush Supporters Called McCain “The Fag Candidate.” In South Carolina, Bush supporters circulated church fliers that labeled McCain “the fag candidate.” Columnist Frank Rich noted that the fliers were distributed “even as Bush subtly reinforced that message by indicating he wouldn’t hire openly gay people for his administration.”

    McCain Slurs Included Illegitimate Children, Homosexuality And A Drug-Addict Wife.
    Among the rumors circulated against McCain in 2000 in South Carolina was that his adopted Bangladeshi daughter was actually black, that McCain was both gay and cheated on his wife, and that his wife Cindy was a drug addict.”

    Bush Campaign Used Code Words to Question McCain’s Temper.
    “A smear campaign of the ugliest sort is now coursing through the contest for the presidency in 2000. Using the code word "temper," a group of Senate Republicans, and at least some outriders of the George W. Bush campaign, are spreading the word that John McCain is unstable. The subtext, also suggested in this whispering campaign, is that he returned from 5 1/2 years as a POW in North Vietnam with a loose screw. And it is bruited about that he shouldn't be entrusted with nuclear weapons.”

    Bush Supporters Questioned McCain’s Sanity.
    “Some of George W. Bush's supporters have questioned Republican presidential candidate John McCain's fitness for the White House, suggesting that his five years as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam drove him insane at the time.”

    Bush Supporters Spread Racist Rumors About McCain’s Daughter.
    Bush supporters in South Carolina made race-baiting phone calls saying that McCain had a “black child.” The McCains’ daughter, Bridget, was adopted from Mother Teresa’s orphanage in Bangladesh. In August 2000, columnist Maureen Dowd wrote that the McCains “are still seething about Bush supporters in South Carolina spreading word of their dark-skinned adopted daughter.”

    Rove Suggests Former POW McCain Committed Treason and Fathered Child With Black Prostitute.
    In 2000, McCain operatives in SC accused Rove of spreading rumors against McCain, such as “suggestions that McCain had committed treason while a prisoner of war, and had fathered a child by a black prostitute,” according to the New Yorker.

    After Rove Denied Role In McCain Whisper Campaign, Reporters Concluded He Was Behind It.
    A December 1999 Dallas Morning News linked Rove to a series of campaign dirty tricks, including his College Republican efforts, allegedly starting a whisper campaign about Ann Richard being too gay-friendly, spreading stories about Jim Hightower’s involvement in a kickback scheme and leaking the educational history of Lena Guerrero. The article also outlined current dirty tricks and whisper campaigns against McCain in South Carolina, including that “McCain may be unstable as a result of being tortured while a prisoner of war in North Vietnam.” (DMN, 12/2/99) After the article was published, Rove blasted Slater in the Manchester, NH airport, “nose to nose” according to one witness, with Rove claiming Slater had “harmed his reputation,” Slater later noted. But according to one witness, “What was interesting then is that everyone on the campaign charter concluded that Rove was responsible for rumors about McCain.”

    Rove Was In Close Touch With McConnell, McCain-Feingold’s Chief Opponent.
    Senior White House adviser Karl Rove was in close contact with Senator Mitch McConnell (R-KY) during McConnell’s effort to fight the McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Bill in the U.S. Senate. According to Newsweek, though Rove and Bush have publicly kept their distance from McConnell on the issue, “sources tell Newsweek that Rove is, in fact, in close touch with McConnell as GOP experts study the bill for hidden land mines.”

    Bush Campaign Accused of Using Push Polls Against McCain.
    College of Charleston student Suzette Latsko said she received a telephone call from a woman who identified herself as an employee of Voter/Consumer Research, and that the caller misrepresented McCain’s positions and asked if Latsko knew McCain had been reprimanded for interfering with federal regulators in the savings and loan scandal. Voter/Consumer Research is listed as a polling contractor on Bush’s Federal Election Commission filings; the Bush campaign has paid Voter/Consumer Research $93,000 through December 31, 1999. Bush spokesman Ari Fleischer denied the call was a push poll, but said it was important that the Republican Party remember McCain’s role in the S&L crisis.

    Bush Campaign Acknowledged Making Phone Calls.
    Tucker Eskew, Bush’s South Carolina spokesman, acknowledged the Bush campaign made such calls, but claimed they were not “push polls.” Eskew added, “Show me a baseless comment in those questions.”

    Bush Used Fringe Veterans Group to Attack McCain as “Manchurian Candidate.”
    “In the case of Ted Sampley, the same guy who did Bush's dirty work in going after Sen. John McCain in the 2000 Republican primaries is doing the job against Kerry this year. Sampley dared compare McCain, who spent five years as a Vietnam POW, with ‘the Manchurian Candidate.’”

    Sampley Called McCain a “Coward” and a Traitor.
    “Sampley… accused McCain of being a weak-minded coward who had escaped death by collaborating with the enemy. Sampley claimed that McCain had first been compromised by the Vietnamese, then recruited by the Soviets.”

    What Bush did to McCain in the 2000 S. C. primary

    I'd say what Clinton and Biden said about Obama is pretty tame in comparison .. and fully expected in a hotly contested race.

    But the Bush/Rove team were something special ...
     
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    Fact: Biden offers public warning of an international crisis facing a potential Obama presidency (& I stress "potential" as the votes will not be tallied until next Tuesday no matter what the LIBERAL MEDIA suggest)

    Fact: Correct me if I'm wrong but primaries took place in 2008 which is pretty current my friends. Are you suggesting Clinton's prior rhetoric only pertained to a certain time period. She claimed it and just b/c she has been paid off doesn't mean it isn't less true. That is A BFD. Your ignorance is not bliss!

    BTW, as I stated in a prevous post...Obama/Biden will find ways to fund their $1 Trillion BIG GOVT SPEND and it is coming true. They are now talking about bigger taxes to those who earn $150K or more...What happened to $250K. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED...OBAMA/BIDEN ARE LIARS...ALWAYS HAVE BEEN....ALWAYS WILL BE.

    The only thing that rings true about Obama's "Change" campaign is that he keeps changing his story to make his lies sound more true among lazy Americans who are persuaded by words and not content.
     
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    Great example of a dependent thinker. Classic example of how you spoon-fed information, you get the type of behavior that was targeted. Sit down, stand up. Good boy. If you can train a dog how to fetch, you can train a person how to think.
     
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    A quick study would maybe indicate a common problem exists with a former VP by name of Quale and Biden. The only difference is party affiliation.
     
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    No leave it to the Repubs.

    McCain was the least electable of most of those who ran.

    Then he picks some pretty chick with no real experience to get the women't vote and the religious right.

    Talk about a loser, talk about John.
     

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