Turns Out There Is A "Deep State"

There is that aroma of irony around the topic: the same folks who rant that there is no God, are the very same ranting that there is no 'Deep State'.....while big government and its Deep State IS their god!


1." I know opponents of President Donald Trump roll their eyes in ridicule at the mere suggestion of a deep state committed to undermining Trump's agenda. That's the stuff of paranoid conspiracy theorists or unhinged Trumpublican tribalists, they say.

2. Well, James O'Keefe, and his Project Veritas, has shown, again, that there is a "there" there.

3. ...unelected leftist bureaucrats embedded in the bowels of the federal government have been lawlessly targeting conservatives and abusing their power to thwart the agenda of duly elected Republican policymakers. The proof keeps pouring in.




4. The Obama administration's IRS deliberately discriminated against conservative groups in their applications for tax-exempt status. This isn't an empty partisan allegation from an imaginary "right-wing conspiracy." In 2013, an IRS official admitted scrutinizing groups with right wing identifying names, such as "Tea Party" and "patriots." An inspector general's report that year confirmed this nefarious practice.

5. At least two groups of cases were settled in 2017 with the IRS agreeing to a "substantial financial settlement" in one and expressing "its sincere apology" in another. This is the kind of tyrannical behavior that liberals used to care about.

6. In a case involving the Linchpins of Liberty and some 40 other conservative organizations, the IRS confessed that it used "heighted scrutiny and inordinate delays" and required unnecessary information in its review of applications for tax-exemptions.

7. In the NorCal Tea Party Patriots case, involving more than 400 groups, plaintiffs contended the IRS used their tax information for improper purposes.



8. ...James O'Keefe, and his Project Veritas, ....recently released secret videotapes in which some of these boorish bureaucrats brazenly admit their chicanery, and even brag about it.

9. On Tuesday, Project Veritas released the first of its tapes unmasking these proud pinheads boasting of sabotaging the Trump agenda. The video features State Department employee Stuart Karaffa, a smarmy, self-proclaimed socialist using his government position to resist official Trump administration policies. Karaffa is a member of the Metro DC Democratic Socialists of America...

10. He admits to drafting DSA communications at his worksite. "I'm careful about it," says Karaffa. "I don't leave a paper trail, like I leave emails, and like any press s--- that comes up, I leave that until after 5:30. But as soon as 5:31 hits, got my like draft messages ready to send out." Precious."
Project Veritas Catches Deep State Redhanded
There is no God. There is a corrupt faction within the government however. Call it whatever you like.

Keep your fairy tales about God in the religion forum please.


This nation was founded on a belief in God.

For a reminder:

There are four references to ‘Divine’ in the Declaration of Independence:

1) in first paragraph ‘Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God,’

2) next paragraph ‘endowed by their Creator,”

3) Supreme Judge of the world, and

4) ‘divine’ Providence, last paragraph.

This is important because our historic documents memorialize a government based on individuals born with inalienable rights, by, in various references, by the Divine, or Nature’s God, or their Creator, or the Supreme Judge, or divine Providence.



Perhaps you have some other nation in mind......

Constitution of United States of America 1789 (rev. 1992)
Amendment 1


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

  1. U.S. Constitution › Article VI
Article VI
All debts contracted and engagements entered into, before the adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.



 
There is that aroma of irony around the topic: the same folks who rant that there is no God, are the very same ranting that there is no 'Deep State'.....while big government and its Deep State IS their god!


1." I know opponents of President Donald Trump roll their eyes in ridicule at the mere suggestion of a deep state committed to undermining Trump's agenda. That's the stuff of paranoid conspiracy theorists or unhinged Trumpublican tribalists, they say.

2. Well, James O'Keefe, and his Project Veritas, has shown, again, that there is a "there" there.

3. ...unelected leftist bureaucrats embedded in the bowels of the federal government have been lawlessly targeting conservatives and abusing their power to thwart the agenda of duly elected Republican policymakers. The proof keeps pouring in.




4. The Obama administration's IRS deliberately discriminated against conservative groups in their applications for tax-exempt status. This isn't an empty partisan allegation from an imaginary "right-wing conspiracy." In 2013, an IRS official admitted scrutinizing groups with right wing identifying names, such as "Tea Party" and "patriots." An inspector general's report that year confirmed this nefarious practice.

5. At least two groups of cases were settled in 2017 with the IRS agreeing to a "substantial financial settlement" in one and expressing "its sincere apology" in another. This is the kind of tyrannical behavior that liberals used to care about.

6. In a case involving the Linchpins of Liberty and some 40 other conservative organizations, the IRS confessed that it used "heighted scrutiny and inordinate delays" and required unnecessary information in its review of applications for tax-exemptions.

7. In the NorCal Tea Party Patriots case, involving more than 400 groups, plaintiffs contended the IRS used their tax information for improper purposes.



8. ...James O'Keefe, and his Project Veritas, ....recently released secret videotapes in which some of these boorish bureaucrats brazenly admit their chicanery, and even brag about it.

9. On Tuesday, Project Veritas released the first of its tapes unmasking these proud pinheads boasting of sabotaging the Trump agenda. The video features State Department employee Stuart Karaffa, a smarmy, self-proclaimed socialist using his government position to resist official Trump administration policies. Karaffa is a member of the Metro DC Democratic Socialists of America...

10. He admits to drafting DSA communications at his worksite. "I'm careful about it," says Karaffa. "I don't leave a paper trail, like I leave emails, and like any press s--- that comes up, I leave that until after 5:30. But as soon as 5:31 hits, got my like draft messages ready to send out." Precious."
Project Veritas Catches Deep State Redhanded
There is no God. There is a corrupt faction within the government however. Call it whatever you like.

Keep your fairy tales about God in the religion forum please.


This nation was founded on a belief in God.

For a reminder:

There are four references to ‘Divine’ in the Declaration of Independence:

1) in first paragraph ‘Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God,’

2) next paragraph ‘endowed by their Creator,”

3) Supreme Judge of the world, and

4) ‘divine’ Providence, last paragraph.

This is important because our historic documents memorialize a government based on individuals born with inalienable rights, by, in various references, by the Divine, or Nature’s God, or their Creator, or the Supreme Judge, or divine Providence.



Perhaps you have some other nation in mind......
Yet, none of it made it into our Constitution which forbade the establishment of a religion

It forbade the establishment of a STATE religion! Like the one in England headed by the King.

A huge difference.

& yet everything about the (R)s say that christianity is the ONLY religion that matters.
 
There is that aroma of irony around the topic: the same folks who rant that there is no God, are the very same ranting that there is no 'Deep State'.....while big government and its Deep State IS their god!


1." I know opponents of President Donald Trump roll their eyes in ridicule at the mere suggestion of a deep state committed to undermining Trump's agenda. That's the stuff of paranoid conspiracy theorists or unhinged Trumpublican tribalists, they say.

2. Well, James O'Keefe, and his Project Veritas, has shown, again, that there is a "there" there.

3. ...unelected leftist bureaucrats embedded in the bowels of the federal government have been lawlessly targeting conservatives and abusing their power to thwart the agenda of duly elected Republican policymakers. The proof keeps pouring in.




4. The Obama administration's IRS deliberately discriminated against conservative groups in their applications for tax-exempt status. This isn't an empty partisan allegation from an imaginary "right-wing conspiracy." In 2013, an IRS official admitted scrutinizing groups with right wing identifying names, such as "Tea Party" and "patriots." An inspector general's report that year confirmed this nefarious practice.

5. At least two groups of cases were settled in 2017 with the IRS agreeing to a "substantial financial settlement" in one and expressing "its sincere apology" in another. This is the kind of tyrannical behavior that liberals used to care about.

6. In a case involving the Linchpins of Liberty and some 40 other conservative organizations, the IRS confessed that it used "heighted scrutiny and inordinate delays" and required unnecessary information in its review of applications for tax-exemptions.

7. In the NorCal Tea Party Patriots case, involving more than 400 groups, plaintiffs contended the IRS used their tax information for improper purposes.



8. ...James O'Keefe, and his Project Veritas, ....recently released secret videotapes in which some of these boorish bureaucrats brazenly admit their chicanery, and even brag about it.

9. On Tuesday, Project Veritas released the first of its tapes unmasking these proud pinheads boasting of sabotaging the Trump agenda. The video features State Department employee Stuart Karaffa, a smarmy, self-proclaimed socialist using his government position to resist official Trump administration policies. Karaffa is a member of the Metro DC Democratic Socialists of America...

10. He admits to drafting DSA communications at his worksite. "I'm careful about it," says Karaffa. "I don't leave a paper trail, like I leave emails, and like any press s--- that comes up, I leave that until after 5:30. But as soon as 5:31 hits, got my like draft messages ready to send out." Precious."
Project Veritas Catches Deep State Redhanded
There is no God. There is a corrupt faction within the government however. Call it whatever you like.

Keep your fairy tales about God in the religion forum please.


This nation was founded on a belief in God.

For a reminder:

There are four references to ‘Divine’ in the Declaration of Independence:

1) in first paragraph ‘Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God,’

2) next paragraph ‘endowed by their Creator,”

3) Supreme Judge of the world, and

4) ‘divine’ Providence, last paragraph.

This is important because our historic documents memorialize a government based on individuals born with inalienable rights, by, in various references, by the Divine, or Nature’s God, or their Creator, or the Supreme Judge, or divine Providence.



Perhaps you have some other nation in mind......

Constitution of United States of America 1789 (rev. 1992)
Amendment 1


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.




Article VI
All debts contracted and engagements entered into, before the adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.





This nation was founded on a belief in God.

For a reminder:

There are four references to ‘Divine’ in the Declaration of Independence:

1) in first paragraph ‘Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God,’

2) next paragraph ‘endowed by their Creator,”

3) Supreme Judge of the world, and

4) ‘divine’ Providence, last paragraph.

This is important because our historic documents memorialize a government based on individuals born with inalienable rights, by, in various references, by the Divine, or Nature’s God, or their Creator, or the Supreme Judge, or divine Providence.




The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html


Perhaps you have some other nation in mind......
 
O'Keefe is a lying sack of shit.

Project veritus is fodder for idiots who will believe any lie that supports their bias.

The deep state is nothing more than a conservative boogyman. They would use it to frighten their kids if they didn't reproduce by fission like all bacteria.



Gee.....lying Liberals said the very same thing when he proved that Planned Parenthood harvested and sold the organ of those children it slaughtered.
Except that they didn't prove anything of the sort. It was all a lie.

But that's ok, believe what you want. I don't expect.you to suddenly rejoin reality.




Rule #1:
Every argument by Democrats/Liberals is a misrepresentation, fabrication, or a bald-faced lie.

And, of course, you exemplify this.









Those are fake videos that have been thoroughly discredited. The fact that you still believe them speaks volumes though.




Actually, it's you and the Left that has been thoroughly discredited.

You've been very helpful in that endeavor.


you're insane.


https://www.npr.org/2016/01/28/4645...ood-investigations-find-no-fetal-tissue-sales
 
There is that aroma of irony around the topic: the same folks who rant that there is no God, are the very same ranting that there is no 'Deep State'.....while big government and its Deep State IS their god!


1." I know opponents of President Donald Trump roll their eyes in ridicule at the mere suggestion of a deep state committed to undermining Trump's agenda. That's the stuff of paranoid conspiracy theorists or unhinged Trumpublican tribalists, they say.

2. Well, James O'Keefe, and his Project Veritas, has shown, again, that there is a "there" there.

3. ...unelected leftist bureaucrats embedded in the bowels of the federal government have been lawlessly targeting conservatives and abusing their power to thwart the agenda of duly elected Republican policymakers. The proof keeps pouring in.




4. The Obama administration's IRS deliberately discriminated against conservative groups in their applications for tax-exempt status. This isn't an empty partisan allegation from an imaginary "right-wing conspiracy." In 2013, an IRS official admitted scrutinizing groups with right wing identifying names, such as "Tea Party" and "patriots." An inspector general's report that year confirmed this nefarious practice.

5. At least two groups of cases were settled in 2017 with the IRS agreeing to a "substantial financial settlement" in one and expressing "its sincere apology" in another. This is the kind of tyrannical behavior that liberals used to care about.

6. In a case involving the Linchpins of Liberty and some 40 other conservative organizations, the IRS confessed that it used "heighted scrutiny and inordinate delays" and required unnecessary information in its review of applications for tax-exemptions.

7. In the NorCal Tea Party Patriots case, involving more than 400 groups, plaintiffs contended the IRS used their tax information for improper purposes.



8. ...James O'Keefe, and his Project Veritas, ....recently released secret videotapes in which some of these boorish bureaucrats brazenly admit their chicanery, and even brag about it.

9. On Tuesday, Project Veritas released the first of its tapes unmasking these proud pinheads boasting of sabotaging the Trump agenda. The video features State Department employee Stuart Karaffa, a smarmy, self-proclaimed socialist using his government position to resist official Trump administration policies. Karaffa is a member of the Metro DC Democratic Socialists of America...

10. He admits to drafting DSA communications at his worksite. "I'm careful about it," says Karaffa. "I don't leave a paper trail, like I leave emails, and like any press s--- that comes up, I leave that until after 5:30. But as soon as 5:31 hits, got my like draft messages ready to send out." Precious."
Project Veritas Catches Deep State Redhanded
There is no God. There is a corrupt faction within the government however. Call it whatever you like.

Keep your fairy tales about God in the religion forum please.


This nation was founded on a belief in God.

For a reminder:

There are four references to ‘Divine’ in the Declaration of Independence:

1) in first paragraph ‘Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God,’

2) next paragraph ‘endowed by their Creator,”

3) Supreme Judge of the world, and

4) ‘divine’ Providence, last paragraph.

This is important because our historic documents memorialize a government based on individuals born with inalienable rights, by, in various references, by the Divine, or Nature’s God, or their Creator, or the Supreme Judge, or divine Providence.



Perhaps you have some other nation in mind......

Constitution of United States of America 1789 (rev. 1992)
Amendment 1


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.




Article VI
All debts contracted and engagements entered into, before the adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.





This nation was founded on a belief in God.

For a reminder:

There are four references to ‘Divine’ in the Declaration of Independence:

1) in first paragraph ‘Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God,’

2) next paragraph ‘endowed by their Creator,”

3) Supreme Judge of the world, and

4) ‘divine’ Providence, last paragraph.

This is important because our historic documents memorialize a government based on individuals born with inalienable rights, by, in various references, by the Divine, or Nature’s God, or their Creator, or the Supreme Judge, or divine Providence.




The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html


Perhaps you have some other nation in mind......

uh-huh.

Jefferson's Letter to the Danbury Baptists
The Draft and Recently Discovered Text

To messers Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.

Gentlemen

The affectionate sentiments of esteem & approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful & zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, and, in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more & more pleasing.

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man & his god, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" thus building a wall of eternal separation between Church & State. Congress thus inhibited from acts respecting religion, and the Executive authorised only to execute their acts, I have refrained from prescribing even those occasional performances of devotion, practiced indeed by the Executive of another nation as the legal head of its church, but subject here, as religious exercises only to the voluntary regulations and discipline of each respective sect,

[Jefferson first wrote: "confining myself therefore to the duties of my station, which are merely temporal, be assured that your religious rights shall never be infringed by any act of mine and that." These lines he crossed out and then wrote: "concurring with"; having crossed out these two words, he wrote: "Adhering to this great act of national legislation in behalf of the rights of conscience"; next he crossed out these words and wrote: "Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience I shall see with friendly dispositions the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced that he has no natural rights in opposition to his social duties."]

I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & the Danbury Baptist [your religious] association assurances of my high respect & esteem.

Th Jefferson
Jan. 1. 1802.

gotta love thom.
 
There is that aroma of irony around the topic: the same folks who rant that there is no God, are the very same ranting that there is no 'Deep State'.....while big government and its Deep State IS their god!


1." I know opponents of President Donald Trump roll their eyes in ridicule at the mere suggestion of a deep state committed to undermining Trump's agenda. That's the stuff of paranoid conspiracy theorists or unhinged Trumpublican tribalists, they say.

2. Well, James O'Keefe, and his Project Veritas, has shown, again, that there is a "there" there.

3. ...unelected leftist bureaucrats embedded in the bowels of the federal government have been lawlessly targeting conservatives and abusing their power to thwart the agenda of duly elected Republican policymakers. The proof keeps pouring in.




4. The Obama administration's IRS deliberately discriminated against conservative groups in their applications for tax-exempt status. This isn't an empty partisan allegation from an imaginary "right-wing conspiracy." In 2013, an IRS official admitted scrutinizing groups with right wing identifying names, such as "Tea Party" and "patriots." An inspector general's report that year confirmed this nefarious practice.

5. At least two groups of cases were settled in 2017 with the IRS agreeing to a "substantial financial settlement" in one and expressing "its sincere apology" in another. This is the kind of tyrannical behavior that liberals used to care about.

6. In a case involving the Linchpins of Liberty and some 40 other conservative organizations, the IRS confessed that it used "heighted scrutiny and inordinate delays" and required unnecessary information in its review of applications for tax-exemptions.

7. In the NorCal Tea Party Patriots case, involving more than 400 groups, plaintiffs contended the IRS used their tax information for improper purposes.



8. ...James O'Keefe, and his Project Veritas, ....recently released secret videotapes in which some of these boorish bureaucrats brazenly admit their chicanery, and even brag about it.

9. On Tuesday, Project Veritas released the first of its tapes unmasking these proud pinheads boasting of sabotaging the Trump agenda. The video features State Department employee Stuart Karaffa, a smarmy, self-proclaimed socialist using his government position to resist official Trump administration policies. Karaffa is a member of the Metro DC Democratic Socialists of America...

10. He admits to drafting DSA communications at his worksite. "I'm careful about it," says Karaffa. "I don't leave a paper trail, like I leave emails, and like any press s--- that comes up, I leave that until after 5:30. But as soon as 5:31 hits, got my like draft messages ready to send out." Precious."
Project Veritas Catches Deep State Redhanded


yes

a deep state of conservatives and evangelicals....behind the scenes.......working to make America a christian nation.....


newt gingrich "we must change the laws of the land to reflect our religious (christian) beliefs and see to it that they can NEVER be changed again!"

--------------

"I honestly believe that in my lifetime we will see a country once again governed by Christians...and Christian values. What Christians have got to do is take back this country, one precinct at a time, one neighborhood at a time, and one state at a time.

Ralph E. Reed, Jr.


I paint my face and travel at night. You don't know it's over until you're in a body bag.

Ralph E. Reed, Jr.

barry-goldwater-preachers.jpg
 
There is that aroma of irony around the topic: the same folks who rant that there is no God, are the very same ranting that there is no 'Deep State'.....while big government and its Deep State IS their god!


1." I know opponents of President Donald Trump roll their eyes in ridicule at the mere suggestion of a deep state committed to undermining Trump's agenda. That's the stuff of paranoid conspiracy theorists or unhinged Trumpublican tribalists, they say.

2. Well, James O'Keefe, and his Project Veritas, has shown, again, that there is a "there" there.

3. ...unelected leftist bureaucrats embedded in the bowels of the federal government have been lawlessly targeting conservatives and abusing their power to thwart the agenda of duly elected Republican policymakers. The proof keeps pouring in.




4. The Obama administration's IRS deliberately discriminated against conservative groups in their applications for tax-exempt status. This isn't an empty partisan allegation from an imaginary "right-wing conspiracy." In 2013, an IRS official admitted scrutinizing groups with right wing identifying names, such as "Tea Party" and "patriots." An inspector general's report that year confirmed this nefarious practice.

5. At least two groups of cases were settled in 2017 with the IRS agreeing to a "substantial financial settlement" in one and expressing "its sincere apology" in another. This is the kind of tyrannical behavior that liberals used to care about.

6. In a case involving the Linchpins of Liberty and some 40 other conservative organizations, the IRS confessed that it used "heighted scrutiny and inordinate delays" and required unnecessary information in its review of applications for tax-exemptions.

7. In the NorCal Tea Party Patriots case, involving more than 400 groups, plaintiffs contended the IRS used their tax information for improper purposes.



8. ...James O'Keefe, and his Project Veritas, ....recently released secret videotapes in which some of these boorish bureaucrats brazenly admit their chicanery, and even brag about it.

9. On Tuesday, Project Veritas released the first of its tapes unmasking these proud pinheads boasting of sabotaging the Trump agenda. The video features State Department employee Stuart Karaffa, a smarmy, self-proclaimed socialist using his government position to resist official Trump administration policies. Karaffa is a member of the Metro DC Democratic Socialists of America...

10. He admits to drafting DSA communications at his worksite. "I'm careful about it," says Karaffa. "I don't leave a paper trail, like I leave emails, and like any press s--- that comes up, I leave that until after 5:30. But as soon as 5:31 hits, got my like draft messages ready to send out." Precious."
Project Veritas Catches Deep State Redhanded


yes

a deep state of conservatives and evangelicals....behind the scenes.......working to make America a christian nation.....


newt gingrich "we must change the laws of the land to reflect our religious (christian) beliefs and see to it that they can NEVER be changed again!"

--------------

"I honestly believe that in my lifetime we will see a country once again governed by Christians...and Christian values. What Christians have got to do is take back this country, one precinct at a time, one neighborhood at a time, and one state at a time.

Ralph E. Reed, Jr.


I paint my face and travel at night. You don't know it's over until you're in a body bag.

Ralph E. Reed, Jr.

But Gingrich is Catholic

& some 'christians' think catholicism is a cult...
 
There is that aroma of irony around the topic: the same folks who rant that there is no God, are the very same ranting that there is no 'Deep State'.....while big government and its Deep State IS their god!


1." I know opponents of President Donald Trump roll their eyes in ridicule at the mere suggestion of a deep state committed to undermining Trump's agenda. That's the stuff of paranoid conspiracy theorists or unhinged Trumpublican tribalists, they say.

2. Well, James O'Keefe, and his Project Veritas, has shown, again, that there is a "there" there.

3. ...unelected leftist bureaucrats embedded in the bowels of the federal government have been lawlessly targeting conservatives and abusing their power to thwart the agenda of duly elected Republican policymakers. The proof keeps pouring in.




4. The Obama administration's IRS deliberately discriminated against conservative groups in their applications for tax-exempt status. This isn't an empty partisan allegation from an imaginary "right-wing conspiracy." In 2013, an IRS official admitted scrutinizing groups with right wing identifying names, such as "Tea Party" and "patriots." An inspector general's report that year confirmed this nefarious practice.

5. At least two groups of cases were settled in 2017 with the IRS agreeing to a "substantial financial settlement" in one and expressing "its sincere apology" in another. This is the kind of tyrannical behavior that liberals used to care about.

6. In a case involving the Linchpins of Liberty and some 40 other conservative organizations, the IRS confessed that it used "heighted scrutiny and inordinate delays" and required unnecessary information in its review of applications for tax-exemptions.

7. In the NorCal Tea Party Patriots case, involving more than 400 groups, plaintiffs contended the IRS used their tax information for improper purposes.



8. ...James O'Keefe, and his Project Veritas, ....recently released secret videotapes in which some of these boorish bureaucrats brazenly admit their chicanery, and even brag about it.

9. On Tuesday, Project Veritas released the first of its tapes unmasking these proud pinheads boasting of sabotaging the Trump agenda. The video features State Department employee Stuart Karaffa, a smarmy, self-proclaimed socialist using his government position to resist official Trump administration policies. Karaffa is a member of the Metro DC Democratic Socialists of America...

10. He admits to drafting DSA communications at his worksite. "I'm careful about it," says Karaffa. "I don't leave a paper trail, like I leave emails, and like any press s--- that comes up, I leave that until after 5:30. But as soon as 5:31 hits, got my like draft messages ready to send out." Precious."
Project Veritas Catches Deep State Redhanded
There is no God. There is a corrupt faction within the government however. Call it whatever you like.

Keep your fairy tales about God in the religion forum please.


This nation was founded on a belief in God.

For a reminder:

There are four references to ‘Divine’ in the Declaration of Independence:

1) in first paragraph ‘Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God,’

2) next paragraph ‘endowed by their Creator,”

3) Supreme Judge of the world, and

4) ‘divine’ Providence, last paragraph.

This is important because our historic documents memorialize a government based on individuals born with inalienable rights, by, in various references, by the Divine, or Nature’s God, or their Creator, or the Supreme Judge, or divine Providence.



Perhaps you have some other nation in mind......

Constitution of United States of America 1789 (rev. 1992)
Amendment 1


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.




Article VI
All debts contracted and engagements entered into, before the adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.





This nation was founded on a belief in God.

For a reminder:

There are four references to ‘Divine’ in the Declaration of Independence:

1) in first paragraph ‘Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God,’

2) next paragraph ‘endowed by their Creator,”

3) Supreme Judge of the world, and

4) ‘divine’ Providence, last paragraph.

This is important because our historic documents memorialize a government based on individuals born with inalienable rights, by, in various references, by the Divine, or Nature’s God, or their Creator, or the Supreme Judge, or divine Providence.




The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html


Perhaps you have some other nation in mind......

uh-huh.

Jefferson's Letter to the Danbury Baptists
The Draft and Recently Discovered Text

To messers Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.

Gentlemen

The affectionate sentiments of esteem & approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful & zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, and, in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more & more pleasing.

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man & his god, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" thus building a wall of eternal separation between Church & State. Congress thus inhibited from acts respecting religion, and the Executive authorised only to execute their acts, I have refrained from prescribing even those occasional performances of devotion, practiced indeed by the Executive of another nation as the legal head of its church, but subject here, as religious exercises only to the voluntary regulations and discipline of each respective sect,

[Jefferson first wrote: "confining myself therefore to the duties of my station, which are merely temporal, be assured that your religious rights shall never be infringed by any act of mine and that." These lines he crossed out and then wrote: "concurring with"; having crossed out these two words, he wrote: "Adhering to this great act of national legislation in behalf of the rights of conscience"; next he crossed out these words and wrote: "Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience I shall see with friendly dispositions the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced that he has no natural rights in opposition to his social duties."]

I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & the Danbury Baptist [your religious] association assurances of my high respect & esteem.

Th Jefferson
Jan. 1. 1802.

gotta love thom.



Now for your education:

Jefferson’s wall in actuality had federal government on one side of the wall and the state government and religion on the other side. The barrier was impervious in only one direction — meaning federal government was to have no control over the religious activities inside the individual states. This was in line with Jefferson’s strict interpretation of the non-establishment clause. His view was so absolute, Jefferson as president never set aside days in the public calendar for prayer, fasting, or thanksgiving. This adds further weight that the conclusion reached by justices in the 20th century about Jefferson’s wall cannot be true.

Freedom of speech is often touted as the defense for unpopular views, but religious speech somehow is excluded from the same defense. Instead of using the wall as a way to restrain the federal government from meddling in the religious activities within the states, it has been the complete opposite. It has given the federal government imprimatur to control how and what we can say about religion in our public life. Jefferson’s metaphor for decades has been sadly used as the justification for stifling religious speech in a country that is well-known as the marketplace of ideas. At what point will our judges, politicians, citizens, and society at large come to the realization our Constitution has been under attack by our own judicial system?

I leave you with these remarks from Justice Rehnquist, in Wallace v. Jaffree:

It is impossible to build sound constitutional doctrine upon a mistaken understanding of constitutional history, but unfortunately the Establishment Clause has been expressly freighted with Jefferson’s misleading metaphor for nearly 40 years. Thomas Jefferson was of course in France at the time the Constitutional Amendments known as the Bill of Rights were passed by Congress and ratified by the States. His letter to the Danbury Baptist Association was a short note of courtesy, written 14 years after the Amendments were passed by Congress. He would seem to any detached observer as a less than ideal source of contemporary history as to the meaning of the Religion Clauses of the First Amendment.

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There is no God. There is a corrupt faction within the government however. Call it whatever you like.

Keep your fairy tales about God in the religion forum please.


This nation was founded on a belief in God.

For a reminder:

There are four references to ‘Divine’ in the Declaration of Independence:

1) in first paragraph ‘Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God,’

2) next paragraph ‘endowed by their Creator,”

3) Supreme Judge of the world, and

4) ‘divine’ Providence, last paragraph.

This is important because our historic documents memorialize a government based on individuals born with inalienable rights, by, in various references, by the Divine, or Nature’s God, or their Creator, or the Supreme Judge, or divine Providence.



Perhaps you have some other nation in mind......

Constitution of United States of America 1789 (rev. 1992)
Amendment 1


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.




Article VI
All debts contracted and engagements entered into, before the adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.





This nation was founded on a belief in God.

For a reminder:

There are four references to ‘Divine’ in the Declaration of Independence:

1) in first paragraph ‘Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God,’

2) next paragraph ‘endowed by their Creator,”

3) Supreme Judge of the world, and

4) ‘divine’ Providence, last paragraph.

This is important because our historic documents memorialize a government based on individuals born with inalienable rights, by, in various references, by the Divine, or Nature’s God, or their Creator, or the Supreme Judge, or divine Providence.




The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html


Perhaps you have some other nation in mind......

uh-huh.

Jefferson's Letter to the Danbury Baptists
The Draft and Recently Discovered Text

To messers Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.

Gentlemen

The affectionate sentiments of esteem & approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful & zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, and, in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more & more pleasing.

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man & his god, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" thus building a wall of eternal separation between Church & State. Congress thus inhibited from acts respecting religion, and the Executive authorised only to execute their acts, I have refrained from prescribing even those occasional performances of devotion, practiced indeed by the Executive of another nation as the legal head of its church, but subject here, as religious exercises only to the voluntary regulations and discipline of each respective sect,

[Jefferson first wrote: "confining myself therefore to the duties of my station, which are merely temporal, be assured that your religious rights shall never be infringed by any act of mine and that." These lines he crossed out and then wrote: "concurring with"; having crossed out these two words, he wrote: "Adhering to this great act of national legislation in behalf of the rights of conscience"; next he crossed out these words and wrote: "Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience I shall see with friendly dispositions the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced that he has no natural rights in opposition to his social duties."]

I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & the Danbury Baptist [your religious] association assurances of my high respect & esteem.

Th Jefferson
Jan. 1. 1802.

gotta love thom.



Now for your education:

Jefferson’s wall in actuality had federal government on one side of the wall and the state government and religion on the other side. The barrier was impervious in only one direction — meaning federal government was to have no control over the religious activities inside the individual states. This was in line with Jefferson’s strict interpretation of the non-establishment clause. His view was so absolute, Jefferson as president never set aside days in the public calendar for prayer, fasting, or thanksgiving. This adds further weight that the conclusion reached by justices in the 20th century about Jefferson’s wall cannot be true.

Freedom of speech is often touted as the defense for unpopular views, but religious speech somehow is excluded from the same defense. Instead of using the wall as a way to restrain the federal government from meddling in the religious activities within the states, it has been the complete opposite. It has given the federal government imprimatur to control how and what we can say about religion in our public life. Jefferson’s metaphor for decades has been sadly used as the justification for stifling religious speech in a country that is well-known as the marketplace of ideas. At what point will our judges, politicians, citizens, and society at large come to the realization our Constitution has been under attack by our own judicial system?

I leave you with these remarks from Justice Rehnquist, in Wallace v. Jaffree:

It is impossible to build sound constitutional doctrine upon a mistaken understanding of constitutional history, but unfortunately the Establishment Clause has been expressly freighted with Jefferson’s misleading metaphor for nearly 40 years. Thomas Jefferson was of course in France at the time the Constitutional Amendments known as the Bill of Rights were passed by Congress and ratified by the States. His letter to the Danbury Baptist Association was a short note of courtesy, written 14 years after the Amendments were passed by Congress. He would seem to any detached observer as a less than ideal source of contemporary history as to the meaning of the Religion Clauses of the First Amendment.

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This nation was founded on a belief in God.

For a reminder:

There are four references to ‘Divine’ in the Declaration of Independence:

1) in first paragraph ‘Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God,’

2) next paragraph ‘endowed by their Creator,”

3) Supreme Judge of the world, and

4) ‘divine’ Providence, last paragraph.

This is important because our historic documents memorialize a government based on individuals born with inalienable rights, by, in various references, by the Divine, or Nature’s God, or their Creator, or the Supreme Judge, or divine Providence.



Perhaps you have some other nation in mind......

Constitution of United States of America 1789 (rev. 1992)
Amendment 1


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.




Article VI
All debts contracted and engagements entered into, before the adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.





This nation was founded on a belief in God.

For a reminder:

There are four references to ‘Divine’ in the Declaration of Independence:

1) in first paragraph ‘Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God,’

2) next paragraph ‘endowed by their Creator,”

3) Supreme Judge of the world, and

4) ‘divine’ Providence, last paragraph.

This is important because our historic documents memorialize a government based on individuals born with inalienable rights, by, in various references, by the Divine, or Nature’s God, or their Creator, or the Supreme Judge, or divine Providence.




The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html


Perhaps you have some other nation in mind......

uh-huh.

Jefferson's Letter to the Danbury Baptists
The Draft and Recently Discovered Text

To messers Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.

Gentlemen

The affectionate sentiments of esteem & approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful & zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, and, in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more & more pleasing.

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man & his god, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" thus building a wall of eternal separation between Church & State. Congress thus inhibited from acts respecting religion, and the Executive authorised only to execute their acts, I have refrained from prescribing even those occasional performances of devotion, practiced indeed by the Executive of another nation as the legal head of its church, but subject here, as religious exercises only to the voluntary regulations and discipline of each respective sect,

[Jefferson first wrote: "confining myself therefore to the duties of my station, which are merely temporal, be assured that your religious rights shall never be infringed by any act of mine and that." These lines he crossed out and then wrote: "concurring with"; having crossed out these two words, he wrote: "Adhering to this great act of national legislation in behalf of the rights of conscience"; next he crossed out these words and wrote: "Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience I shall see with friendly dispositions the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced that he has no natural rights in opposition to his social duties."]

I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & the Danbury Baptist [your religious] association assurances of my high respect & esteem.

Th Jefferson
Jan. 1. 1802.

gotta love thom.



Now for your education:

Jefferson’s wall in actuality had federal government on one side of the wall and the state government and religion on the other side. The barrier was impervious in only one direction — meaning federal government was to have no control over the religious activities inside the individual states. This was in line with Jefferson’s strict interpretation of the non-establishment clause. His view was so absolute, Jefferson as president never set aside days in the public calendar for prayer, fasting, or thanksgiving. This adds further weight that the conclusion reached by justices in the 20th century about Jefferson’s wall cannot be true.

Freedom of speech is often touted as the defense for unpopular views, but religious speech somehow is excluded from the same defense. Instead of using the wall as a way to restrain the federal government from meddling in the religious activities within the states, it has been the complete opposite. It has given the federal government imprimatur to control how and what we can say about religion in our public life. Jefferson’s metaphor for decades has been sadly used as the justification for stifling religious speech in a country that is well-known as the marketplace of ideas. At what point will our judges, politicians, citizens, and society at large come to the realization our Constitution has been under attack by our own judicial system?

I leave you with these remarks from Justice Rehnquist, in Wallace v. Jaffree:

It is impossible to build sound constitutional doctrine upon a mistaken understanding of constitutional history, but unfortunately the Establishment Clause has been expressly freighted with Jefferson’s misleading metaphor for nearly 40 years. Thomas Jefferson was of course in France at the time the Constitutional Amendments known as the Bill of Rights were passed by Congress and ratified by the States. His letter to the Danbury Baptist Association was a short note of courtesy, written 14 years after the Amendments were passed by Congress. He would seem to any detached observer as a less than ideal source of contemporary history as to the meaning of the Religion Clauses of the First Amendment.

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Constitution of United States of America 1789 (rev. 1992)
Amendment 1


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.




Article VI
All debts contracted and engagements entered into, before the adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.





This nation was founded on a belief in God.

For a reminder:

There are four references to ‘Divine’ in the Declaration of Independence:

1) in first paragraph ‘Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God,’

2) next paragraph ‘endowed by their Creator,”

3) Supreme Judge of the world, and

4) ‘divine’ Providence, last paragraph.

This is important because our historic documents memorialize a government based on individuals born with inalienable rights, by, in various references, by the Divine, or Nature’s God, or their Creator, or the Supreme Judge, or divine Providence.




The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html


Perhaps you have some other nation in mind......

uh-huh.

Jefferson's Letter to the Danbury Baptists
The Draft and Recently Discovered Text

To messers Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.

Gentlemen

The affectionate sentiments of esteem & approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful & zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, and, in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more & more pleasing.

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man & his god, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" thus building a wall of eternal separation between Church & State. Congress thus inhibited from acts respecting religion, and the Executive authorised only to execute their acts, I have refrained from prescribing even those occasional performances of devotion, practiced indeed by the Executive of another nation as the legal head of its church, but subject here, as religious exercises only to the voluntary regulations and discipline of each respective sect,

[Jefferson first wrote: "confining myself therefore to the duties of my station, which are merely temporal, be assured that your religious rights shall never be infringed by any act of mine and that." These lines he crossed out and then wrote: "concurring with"; having crossed out these two words, he wrote: "Adhering to this great act of national legislation in behalf of the rights of conscience"; next he crossed out these words and wrote: "Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience I shall see with friendly dispositions the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced that he has no natural rights in opposition to his social duties."]

I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & the Danbury Baptist [your religious] association assurances of my high respect & esteem.

Th Jefferson
Jan. 1. 1802.

gotta love thom.



Now for your education:

Jefferson’s wall in actuality had federal government on one side of the wall and the state government and religion on the other side. The barrier was impervious in only one direction — meaning federal government was to have no control over the religious activities inside the individual states. This was in line with Jefferson’s strict interpretation of the non-establishment clause. His view was so absolute, Jefferson as president never set aside days in the public calendar for prayer, fasting, or thanksgiving. This adds further weight that the conclusion reached by justices in the 20th century about Jefferson’s wall cannot be true.

Freedom of speech is often touted as the defense for unpopular views, but religious speech somehow is excluded from the same defense. Instead of using the wall as a way to restrain the federal government from meddling in the religious activities within the states, it has been the complete opposite. It has given the federal government imprimatur to control how and what we can say about religion in our public life. Jefferson’s metaphor for decades has been sadly used as the justification for stifling religious speech in a country that is well-known as the marketplace of ideas. At what point will our judges, politicians, citizens, and society at large come to the realization our Constitution has been under attack by our own judicial system?

I leave you with these remarks from Justice Rehnquist, in Wallace v. Jaffree:

It is impossible to build sound constitutional doctrine upon a mistaken understanding of constitutional history, but unfortunately the Establishment Clause has been expressly freighted with Jefferson’s misleading metaphor for nearly 40 years. Thomas Jefferson was of course in France at the time the Constitutional Amendments known as the Bill of Rights were passed by Congress and ratified by the States. His letter to the Danbury Baptist Association was a short note of courtesy, written 14 years after the Amendments were passed by Congress. He would seem to any detached observer as a less than ideal source of contemporary history as to the meaning of the Religion Clauses of the First Amendment.

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I see......you need it broken down into teaspoons full of knowledge.

I always try to help the......challenged.


Jefferson was writing to reassure the Danbury Baptists that a federal government would do nothing to interfere with their form of worship.






It was truly amusing how you confused Justice Rehnquist with a blog.
You're quite a fool, aren't you.
 
I see......you need it broken down into teaspoons full of knowledge.

I always try to help the......challenged.


Jefferson was writing to reassure the Danbury Baptists that a federal government would do nothing to interfere with their form of worship.






It was truly amusing how you confused Justice Rehnquist with a blog.
You're quite a fool, aren't you.

exactly... meaning that there will be free exercise of any religion they choose or not have any at all. not to sanction christianity as the official religion... unlike today, which is what is being slowly made to happen.

who ever wrote that B-L-O-G used rehnquist to put a fine point on their o-p-i-n-i-o-n.
 
I see......you need it broken down into teaspoons full of knowledge.

I always try to help the......challenged.


Jefferson was writing to reassure the Danbury Baptists that a federal government would do nothing to interfere with their form of worship.






It was truly amusing how you confused Justice Rehnquist with a blog.
You're quite a fool, aren't you.

exactly... meaning that there will be free exercise of any religion they choose or not have any at all. not to sanction christianity as the official religion... unlike today, which is what is being slowly made to happen.

who ever wrote that B-L-O-G used rehnquist to put a fine point on their o-p-i-n-i-o-n.



Oh.....I embarrassed you into looking up who Rehnquist was.


Now, admit that he smashed what you tried to post about the Jefferson quote.




"...to sanction christianity as the official religion... unlike today, which is what is being slowly made to happen. "

Link or lie?



You're really not doing well today, huh?

Or is this your usual failing score?
 
I see......you need it broken down into teaspoons full of knowledge.

I always try to help the......challenged.


Jefferson was writing to reassure the Danbury Baptists that a federal government would do nothing to interfere with their form of worship.






It was truly amusing how you confused Justice Rehnquist with a blog.
You're quite a fool, aren't you.

exactly... meaning that there will be free exercise of any religion they choose or not have any at all. not to sanction christianity as the official religion... unlike today, which is what is being slowly made to happen.

who ever wrote that B-L-O-G used rehnquist to put a fine point on their o-p-i-n-i-o-n.



Oh.....I embarrassed you into looking up who Rehnquist was.


Now, admit that he smashed what you tried to post about the Jefferson quote.




"...to sanction christianity as the official religion... unlike today, which is what is being slowly made to happen. "

Link or lie?



You're really not doing well today, huh?

Or is this your usual failing score?

lol... you over estimate yourself alot. something you & your pussy grabbing president have in common.

i don't lie... that's it's been happening since reagan was in the whitehouse... W. pushed it along & of course the fake christian palin came along... there's been the preachers too. here, i'll throw you a bone.

i particularly like this...

 
There is that aroma of irony around the topic: the same folks who rant that there is no God, are the very same ranting that there is no 'Deep State'.....while big government and its Deep State IS their god!


1." I know opponents of President Donald Trump roll their eyes in ridicule at the mere suggestion of a deep state committed to undermining Trump's agenda. That's the stuff of paranoid conspiracy theorists or unhinged Trumpublican tribalists, they say.

2. Well, James O'Keefe, and his Project Veritas, has shown, again, that there is a "there" there.

3. ...unelected leftist bureaucrats embedded in the bowels of the federal government have been lawlessly targeting conservatives and abusing their power to thwart the agenda of duly elected Republican policymakers. The proof keeps pouring in.




4. The Obama administration's IRS deliberately discriminated against conservative groups in their applications for tax-exempt status. This isn't an empty partisan allegation from an imaginary "right-wing conspiracy." In 2013, an IRS official admitted scrutinizing groups with right wing identifying names, such as "Tea Party" and "patriots." An inspector general's report that year confirmed this nefarious practice.

5. At least two groups of cases were settled in 2017 with the IRS agreeing to a "substantial financial settlement" in one and expressing "its sincere apology" in another. This is the kind of tyrannical behavior that liberals used to care about.

6. In a case involving the Linchpins of Liberty and some 40 other conservative organizations, the IRS confessed that it used "heighted scrutiny and inordinate delays" and required unnecessary information in its review of applications for tax-exemptions.

7. In the NorCal Tea Party Patriots case, involving more than 400 groups, plaintiffs contended the IRS used their tax information for improper purposes.



8. ...James O'Keefe, and his Project Veritas, ....recently released secret videotapes in which some of these boorish bureaucrats brazenly admit their chicanery, and even brag about it.

9. On Tuesday, Project Veritas released the first of its tapes unmasking these proud pinheads boasting of sabotaging the Trump agenda. The video features State Department employee Stuart Karaffa, a smarmy, self-proclaimed socialist using his government position to resist official Trump administration policies. Karaffa is a member of the Metro DC Democratic Socialists of America...

10. He admits to drafting DSA communications at his worksite. "I'm careful about it," says Karaffa. "I don't leave a paper trail, like I leave emails, and like any press s--- that comes up, I leave that until after 5:30. But as soon as 5:31 hits, got my like draft messages ready to send out." Precious."
Project Veritas Catches Deep State Redhanded

Isn’t jim o’keefe a convict?



Yes, he is.
 
Not that there should be any doubt of my pronouncements,...e.g., that there is a Deep State of agency officials tied to the Democrats, the Left....proof has just been provided


"Collusion bombshell: DNC lawyers met with FBI on Russia allegations before surveillance warrant
Congressional investigators have confirmed that a top FBI official met with Democratic Party lawyers to talk about allegations of Donald Trump-Russia collusion weeks before the 2016 election, and before the bureau secured a search warrant targeting Trump’s campaign.

Former FBI general counsel James Baker met during the 2016 season with at least one attorney from Perkins Coie, the Democratic National Committee’s private law firm.

That’s the firm used by the DNC and Hillary Clinton’s campaign to secretly pay research firmFusion GPS and Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence operative, to compile a dossier of uncorroborated raw intelligence alleging Trump and Moscow were colluding to hijack the presidential election."

Collusion bombshell: DNC lawyers met with FBI on Russia allegations before surveillance warrant



Turns out I'm right again.....

....and I'm not getting tired of winning.
 
Not that there should be any doubt of my pronouncements,...e.g., that there is a Deep State of agency officials tied to the Democrats, the Left....proof has just been provided


"Collusion bombshell: DNC lawyers met with FBI on Russia allegations before surveillance warrant
Congressional investigators have confirmed that a top FBI official met with Democratic Party lawyers to talk about allegations of Donald Trump-Russia collusion weeks before the 2016 election, and before the bureau secured a search warrant targeting Trump’s campaign.

Former FBI general counsel James Baker met during the 2016 season with at least one attorney from Perkins Coie, the Democratic National Committee’s private law firm.

That’s the firm used by the DNC and Hillary Clinton’s campaign to secretly pay research firmFusion GPS and Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence operative, to compile a dossier of uncorroborated raw intelligence alleging Trump and Moscow were colluding to hijack the presidential election."

Collusion bombshell: DNC lawyers met with FBI on Russia allegations before surveillance warrant



Turns out I'm right again.....

....and I'm not getting tired of winning.


Ah, nope.
 

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