Truthmatters
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Are you guys begining to understand the can of worms we have opened in the middle east with this idiot cowboy foriegn policy?
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Yeah, you are right. We should have just left the Kurds to the tender mercies of Saddam and his Sarin, Tabun and VX chemical attacks, and other forms of attempted Kurd genocide. The Left is dispicable in its contempt for human rights, and disregard for the liberation of the oppressed. Now tell us again that America went into Iraq for the oil.Are you guys begining to understand the can of worms we have opened in the middle east with this idiot cowboy foriegn policy?
There is no mix-up canavar. Turkey wants to "punish" people who commit terrorist homicide bombings on it soil. Understandable. Both Al Qaeda and the PKK have committed terrorist homicide bombings in Turkey. But while Turkey wants to punish the PKK in Iraq, it does not want to punish Al Qaeda in Iraq. Why is that? Is it because only those Al Qaeda members that are in Turkey are worth going after, and to hell with Al Qadea killing Iraqis and Americans in Iraq? Or is it because after the 2003 Istanbul Al Qaeda bombings bin Laden claimed that he was sorry that so many Muslims had been killed in the Turkey bombings, and that he should have ordered a hit on a US military facility in Turkey? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Istanbul_bombings Clearly there is a double standard. Turkey wants to fight terrorism only when it is politically convenient. Just like it is now politically convenient to posture that a Turk invasion of Iraq may take place, just in time for the upcoming July Turkish elections.onedomino, don't mix things up.
We punished all people involved in these attacks. Over 70 were caught and about 40 people were guilty. People involved in these attacks are in jail, Including the 2 Syrians which were head of this Terror-cell, who called himself Turkey-Chief of Al-Qaeda, El-Saka and Hamid Obysi.
El-Saka, which had direct contact to Bin Laden and Zarkawi was captured in Southeastern-Turkey in an airport with a false Turkish passport, and the other was caught trying to flee over Syrian boarder.
2 further people involved in these attacks fled to Iraq, and according to Turkish intelligence information, they were murdered in Iraq.
In contrast, responsible persons for PKK-Bombings still act and walk freely in North-Iraq.
Let's see you find even one Kurd who says he was better off under Saddam.You do realise the majority of Iraqis now say they were better off under Sadam right?
Who sold him those weapons and how long ago was it before we attacked Sadam?
You see all this stupid bluster you allowed yourself to be whip into has gotten MORE Iraqis killed then Sadam ever dreamed of.'
You do realise the majority of Iraqis now say they were better off under Sadam right?
We wont have to its what is going to happen if this place is ever going to be one country again.
There is no mix-up canavar. Turkey wants to "punish" people who commit terrorist homicide bombings on it soil. Understandable. Both Al Qaeda and the PKK have committed terrorist homicide bombings in Turkey. But while Turkey wants to punish the PKK in Iraq, it does not want to punish Al Qaeda in Iraq. Why is that? Is it because only those Al Qaeda members that are in Turkey are worth going after, and to hell with Al Qadea killing Iraqis and Americans in Iraq? Or is it because after the 2003 Istanbul Al Qaeda bombings bin Laden claimed that he was sorry that so many Muslims had been killed in the Turkey bombings, and that he should have ordered a hit on a US military facility in Turkey? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Istanbul_bombings Clearly there is a double standard. Turkey wants to fight terrorism only when it is politically convenient. Just like it is now politically convenient to posture that a Turk invasion of Iraq may take place, just in time for the upcoming July Turkish elections.
Nice of you to term the liberation of Iraq "illegal." You should run for Secretary General of the UN. If the offer of 10,000 Turk troops made in October 2003 was legitimate (and not just an attempt to get at the Kurds), why did your Parliament block the US 4th Infantry Division from entering Iraq from the north in March 2003? That just does not make any sense. The Kurds were right to be suspicious of Turk troops being inserted into Iraq five months after the invasion was over. By the way, how is the guard duty with the French and Germans working out for Turkey in northern Afghanistan? That is a big help in fighting the Taliban in southern Afghanistan.Therefore we declined to support this war which in the beginning had nothing to do with Al-Qaeda or Osama bin Laden. We prefered not to be in history books as illegal occupier.
Later when USA occupied itself and war-process was over, we wanted to send 10.000 soldiers as peacekeepers into that region of Iraq were attacks was still being carried out on you.
Ok good...then I am with you...get the troops out now before anymore have to give their lives in a useless and unjust endeavor.
MANIFEST DESTINY FOR IRAQ!!!
Nice of you to term the liberation of Iraq "illegal." You should run for Secretary General of the UN. If the offer of 10,000 Turk troops made in October 2003 was legitimate (and not just an attempt to get at the Kurds), why did your Parliament block the US 4th Infantry Division from entering Iraq from the north in March 2003? That just does not make any sense. The Kurds were right to be suspicious of Turk troops being inserted into Iraq five months after the invasion was over. By the way, how is the guard duty with the French and Germans working out for Turkey in northern Afghanistan? That is a big help in fighting the Taliban in southern Afghanistan.
http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=53692Chief of General Staff Gen. Yaşar Büyükanıt said Turkey would not be contributing any combat troops to battle a spreading insurgency in southern Afghanistan. �Not even a single soldier from the Turkish Armed Forces will go to Afghanistan for the purpose of the struggle against terrorism,� he was quoted as saying by NTV late on Thursday. �There is no need and such a thing can never be in question.�
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3172228.stmTurkish MPs backed the deployment by 358 votes, with 183 votes against
Then what good are your troops? You leave the hard work, the fighting and dying, to the British, Australians, Danes, and Americans. Why? Because of some PKK terrorists on your southern border? Be serious canavar, it is because your anti American population would not stand for it. That is exactly why the French and Germans also stay away from the fighting. NATO is a virtually meaningless alliance (just the way the French and Germans like it), used primarily for political cover.quoted by canavar said:Chief of General Staff Gen. Yasar Büyükanit said Turkey would not be contributing any combat troops to battle a spreading insurgency in southern Afghanistan. Not even a single soldier from the Turkish Armed Forces will go to Afghanistan for the purpose of the struggle against terrorism, he was quoted as saying by NTV late on Thursday. There is no need and such a thing can never be in question.
Then what good are your troops? You leave the hard work, the fighting and dying, to the British, Australians, Danes, and Americans. Why? Because of some PKK terrorists on your southern border? Be serious canavar, it is because your anti American population would not stand for it. That is exactly why the French and Germans also stay away from the fighting. NATO is a virtually meaningless alliance (just the way the French and Germans like it), used primarily for political cover.
you are kinda using the term MANIFEST DESTINY in a back-assward sorta way, don't you think? Ironic considering the historic relevance of the term, yes?
Who sold him those weapons and how long ago was it before we attacked Sadam?
You see all this stupid bluster you allowed yourself to be whip into has gotten MORE Iraqis killed then Sadam ever dreamed of.'
You do realise the majority of Iraqis now say they were better off under Sadam right?
It is obviously Turkish military wants to eliminate Barzani who is harbouring PKK, too."Are we going to struggle with the PKK once we enter there or do something with Barzani too?"
Turkey won't be happy if they pick a fight with the United States. The results won't be pretty for you.