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Blowing tens of billions of our tax dollars on a wall - when it can't solve the problem and wastes money we could be giving back to tax payers or addressing some REAL problem we actually face.Absolutely.Judge granted the Steinle's the ability to sue the Feds.. This illegal mexican had priors and was still in San Fran...But he was able to obtain a gun stolen out of a Bureau of Land Management officer’s personal vehicle
Kate Steinle case: Court says slain woman’s family can sue feds over stolen gun
I can't wait to see the protests against the wall by the people who's family are at risk by letting these killers in to our country.
California is one giant brain fart.
I support Trump on that, we should have boundaries. If Trump even makes the wall, he isn't going to make a huge wall across the whole southern border,they are already saying that some areas don't need it..
These people will know those exact spots , or tunnel in..
Let's also remember that the number of undocumented aliens in the US STOPPED GROWING early in the Obama administration.
Before we start spending billions on this "problem" we need to start being serious about what can actually be accomplished by a border wall.
Let's also remember that nearly half of those here without documentation came here LEGALLY. So, NO WALL would stop that.
By overstaying their visas. Way more than half by now. Point well taken, few are wall-jumping in the first place so the $25 billion wall, if it were actually a practical doable thing, would have no effect on that. This is a page out of the Rump University playbook, which literally told its fraudsters, "you don't sell solutions --- you sell feelings". Rump sold the feeling of a wall, the feeling of security therefrom, and the feeling that a foreign country with no reason to do so would pay for it.
When you sell to gullible people on the emotional level, rationality is ---- well, it's kept behind a wall.
It may not get all illegals but at least it shows we finally have a President that's going to make illegals awfully unwelcome. They are going to understand you can't come here, hide in one of these sanctuary cities, and stay for as long as you like.
Once those cities face losing federal funds, they will give up their sanctuary status and that gives illegals less places to hide. If I were Trump, I would also halt all road taxes to states that give illegals drivers licenses.
Shipping kids being successful through our education system to countries they have never even visited because of acts that they had no part it doing should be considered a humanitarian crime.Ah, so you're an Eliminationist yearning for a one-party state?
That oughta work out about as well as the aforementioned Taj Mahal.
So what do you think the Democrat goal was by trying to keep these illegals here? Minorities in every category vote Democrat by majority. The goal of Democrats is to make whites a minority in our own country as quickly as possible.
Ah, so you're an Eliminationist yearning for a one-party state?
That oughta work out about as well as the aforementioned Taj Mahal.
So what do you think the Democrat goal was by trying to keep these illegals here? Minorities in every category vote Democrat by majority. The goal of Democrats is to make whites a minority in our own country as quickly as possible.
False.And what do con artists do?
How'd "getting the Taj Mahal done" work out?
Con artists have to actually do something to con the people. Liberal crystal balls don't count as determining who is and isn't a con artist, actions do.
We were conned into believing that health insurance was going to be affordable to everyone. We were conned into believing that families could save up to $2,500 a year in health insurance premiums.
See? We have evidence of what a con artist actually is.
And what do con artists do?
How'd "getting the Taj Mahal done" work out?
Con artists have to actually do something to con the people. Liberal crystal balls don't count as determining who is and isn't a con artist, actions do.
We were conned into believing that health insurance was going to be affordable to everyone. We were conned into believing that families could save up to $2,500 a year in health insurance premiums.
See? We have evidence of what a con artist actually is.
Ah, so you're an Eliminationist yearning for a one-party state?
That oughta work out about as well as the aforementioned Taj Mahal.
So what do you think the Democrat goal was by trying to keep these illegals here? Minorities in every category vote Democrat by majority. The goal of Democrats is to make whites a minority in our own country as quickly as possible.
Absolutely.
Let's also remember that the number of undocumented aliens in the US STOPPED GROWING early in the Obama administration.
That's because he changed the definition of deportation. After he got in, being deported means getting caught on the border and told to turn around and go back to Mexico:
High deportation figures are misleading
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/17/...in-last-five-years.html?ref=juliapreston&_r=1
Nope. It's actually because border security has greatly improved over the last couple of decades, despite the colorful emotional-hook myth of 'fence jumpers'.
>> But even if we were to build a wall, and elect a president interested in using it to protect America’s sovereignty, we’d be missing most of the problem — because the majority of new illegal aliens are actually visa overstayers. This is the most important — albeit buried — finding in a paper published this year by the Center for Migration Studies, an expansionist outfit run by the Scalabrinian Catholic order that nonetheless does serious work. Co-authored by Robert Warren, head of statistics for the old INS, the paper finds that the share of overstays among new illegal aliens has been rising pretty steadily since the 1980s and surpassed border infiltrators in 2008. The paper’s most recent estimate is for 2012, when nearly 60 percent of new illegal immigrants are believed to have entered legally on some sort of visa (or visa-waiver status, if they’re from a developed country) and then just stayed on after their time expired.But of course the imagery of "building a wall" and of hapless rapists screaming "curses, foiled again" in Spanish will sell as emotional hook much better than "we're going to tighten up our visas and the Treasury is going to pay for it". Because again --- "you don't sell solutions ... you sell feelings".
An indication of what’s driving this overstay crisis was highlighted by my colleague David North in a recent paper. He found a huge increase in the overall number of “non-immigrant” (i.e., ostensibly temporary) visas issued by the State Department, and an accompanying decline in the percentage of applications being denied. In just five years, from 2009 to 2014, the number of visas issued grew 71 percent, while the percentage of visa denials dropped from 18.6 percent to 15.3 percent. << ---- On Immigration, Fighting the Last War
So because Trump wants to build a wall, that means he's going to ignore all the other things that contribute to our illegal problem?
I don't think so. We never had a President serious about this issue before. Now we do. Things are going to change.
Of course people who overstayed their Visa's are not worried. What's to be worried about? You can still work here. In some states, you can still drive here. You can open up bank accounts here. Nobody will touch you unless you commit a serious crime.
I'm willing to bet that those here with expired Visa's are watching very carefully now, and those thinking of pulling the same stunt are watching as well.
Several years ago Arizona created their own illegals law. They could stop people and ask them for documentation. If found illegal, they could be held and turned over to ICE.
Articles reported many schools had students that didn't return to school. Companies claiming half of their work crew didn't report for work the next day. Those illegals got the hell out of Arizona until DumBama went to court and sued the state for overstepping their authority and the courts ruled in DumBama's favor.
Bottom line: a strong enough deterrent works every time it's tried.
Absolutely.
Let's also remember that the number of undocumented aliens in the US STOPPED GROWING early in the Obama administration.
That's because he changed the definition of deportation. After he got in, being deported means getting caught on the border and told to turn around and go back to Mexico:
High deportation figures are misleading
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/17/...in-last-five-years.html?ref=juliapreston&_r=1
Nope. It's actually because border security has greatly improved over the last couple of decades, despite the colorful emotional-hook myth of 'fence jumpers'.
>> But even if we were to build a wall, and elect a president interested in using it to protect America’s sovereignty, we’d be missing most of the problem — because the majority of new illegal aliens are actually visa overstayers. This is the most important — albeit buried — finding in a paper published this year by the Center for Migration Studies, an expansionist outfit run by the Scalabrinian Catholic order that nonetheless does serious work. Co-authored by Robert Warren, head of statistics for the old INS, the paper finds that the share of overstays among new illegal aliens has been rising pretty steadily since the 1980s and surpassed border infiltrators in 2008. The paper’s most recent estimate is for 2012, when nearly 60 percent of new illegal immigrants are believed to have entered legally on some sort of visa (or visa-waiver status, if they’re from a developed country) and then just stayed on after their time expired.But of course the imagery of "building a wall" and of hapless rapists screaming "curses, foiled again" in Spanish will sell as emotional hook much better than "we're going to tighten up our visas and the Treasury is going to pay for it". Because again --- "you don't sell solutions ... you sell feelings".
An indication of what’s driving this overstay crisis was highlighted by my colleague David North in a recent paper. He found a huge increase in the overall number of “non-immigrant” (i.e., ostensibly temporary) visas issued by the State Department, and an accompanying decline in the percentage of applications being denied. In just five years, from 2009 to 2014, the number of visas issued grew 71 percent, while the percentage of visa denials dropped from 18.6 percent to 15.3 percent. << ---- On Immigration, Fighting the Last War
So because Trump wants to build a wall, that means he's going to ignore all the other things that contribute to our illegal problem?
I don't think so. We never had a President serious about this issue before. Now we do. Things are going to change.
Of course people who overstayed their Visa's are not worried. What's to be worried about? You can still work here. In some states, you can still drive here. You can open up bank accounts here. Nobody will touch you unless you commit a serious crime.
I'm willing to bet that those here with expired Visa's are watching very carefully now, and those thinking of pulling the same stunt are watching as well.
Several years ago Arizona created their own illegals law. They could stop people and ask them for documentation. If found illegal, they could be held and turned over to ICE.
Articles reported many schools had students that didn't return to school. Companies claiming half of their work crew didn't report for work the next day. Those illegals got the hell out of Arizona until DumBama went to court and sued the state for overstepping their authority and the courts ruled in DumBama's favor.
Bottom line: a strong enough deterrent works every time it's tried.
"Bottom line: a strong enough deterrent works every time it's tried."
Absolutely hilarious!!
If it didn't "work" (whatever that means) then it must have failed because it wasn't "strong" (whatever that means).
Where do you find this stuff? I need to go there!
Ah, so you're an Eliminationist yearning for a one-party state?
That oughta work out about as well as the aforementioned Taj Mahal.
So what do you think the Democrat goal was by trying to keep these illegals here? Minorities in every category vote Democrat by majority. The goal of Democrats is to make whites a minority in our own country as quickly as possible.
You have to wonder why so many whites want their ethnicity to become a minority. They seem to believe this 'diversity is our strength' propaganda. The immigration act of '65 set this trend in place.
Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 - Wikipedia
I don't see anything that "worked" so far.Absolutely.
Let's also remember that the number of undocumented aliens in the US STOPPED GROWING early in the Obama administration.
That's because he changed the definition of deportation. After he got in, being deported means getting caught on the border and told to turn around and go back to Mexico:
High deportation figures are misleading
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/17/...in-last-five-years.html?ref=juliapreston&_r=1
Nope. It's actually because border security has greatly improved over the last couple of decades, despite the colorful emotional-hook myth of 'fence jumpers'.
>> But even if we were to build a wall, and elect a president interested in using it to protect America’s sovereignty, we’d be missing most of the problem — because the majority of new illegal aliens are actually visa overstayers. This is the most important — albeit buried — finding in a paper published this year by the Center for Migration Studies, an expansionist outfit run by the Scalabrinian Catholic order that nonetheless does serious work. Co-authored by Robert Warren, head of statistics for the old INS, the paper finds that the share of overstays among new illegal aliens has been rising pretty steadily since the 1980s and surpassed border infiltrators in 2008. The paper’s most recent estimate is for 2012, when nearly 60 percent of new illegal immigrants are believed to have entered legally on some sort of visa (or visa-waiver status, if they’re from a developed country) and then just stayed on after their time expired.But of course the imagery of "building a wall" and of hapless rapists screaming "curses, foiled again" in Spanish will sell as emotional hook much better than "we're going to tighten up our visas and the Treasury is going to pay for it". Because again --- "you don't sell solutions ... you sell feelings".
An indication of what’s driving this overstay crisis was highlighted by my colleague David North in a recent paper. He found a huge increase in the overall number of “non-immigrant” (i.e., ostensibly temporary) visas issued by the State Department, and an accompanying decline in the percentage of applications being denied. In just five years, from 2009 to 2014, the number of visas issued grew 71 percent, while the percentage of visa denials dropped from 18.6 percent to 15.3 percent. << ---- On Immigration, Fighting the Last War
So because Trump wants to build a wall, that means he's going to ignore all the other things that contribute to our illegal problem?
I don't think so. We never had a President serious about this issue before. Now we do. Things are going to change.
Of course people who overstayed their Visa's are not worried. What's to be worried about? You can still work here. In some states, you can still drive here. You can open up bank accounts here. Nobody will touch you unless you commit a serious crime.
I'm willing to bet that those here with expired Visa's are watching very carefully now, and those thinking of pulling the same stunt are watching as well.
Several years ago Arizona created their own illegals law. They could stop people and ask them for documentation. If found illegal, they could be held and turned over to ICE.
Articles reported many schools had students that didn't return to school. Companies claiming half of their work crew didn't report for work the next day. Those illegals got the hell out of Arizona until DumBama went to court and sued the state for overstepping their authority and the courts ruled in DumBama's favor.
Bottom line: a strong enough deterrent works every time it's tried.
"Bottom line: a strong enough deterrent works every time it's tried."
Absolutely hilarious!!
If it didn't "work" (whatever that means) then it must have failed because it wasn't "strong" (whatever that means).
Where do you find this stuff? I need to go there!
I'm sorry about your comprehension problems, so allow me to reiterate: IT DID WORK. The problem is DumBama put a stop to it.
And what do con artists do?
How'd "getting the Taj Mahal done" work out?
Con artists have to actually do something to con the people. Liberal crystal balls don't count as determining who is and isn't a con artist, actions do.
We were conned into believing that health insurance was going to be affordable to everyone. We were conned into believing that families could save up to $2,500 a year in health insurance premiums.
See? We have evidence of what a con artist actually is.
A con artist is somebody who leeches millions off the gullible with the aforementioned playbook maxim "you don't sell solutions; you sell feelings", then pays out 25 million bucks to settle the inevitable fraud case (after of course denying he'd ever do that) so that it wouldn't be sitting in front of the Electoral College when it came time to vote.
I don't see anything that "worked" so far.That's because he changed the definition of deportation. After he got in, being deported means getting caught on the border and told to turn around and go back to Mexico:
High deportation figures are misleading
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/17/...in-last-five-years.html?ref=juliapreston&_r=1
Nope. It's actually because border security has greatly improved over the last couple of decades, despite the colorful emotional-hook myth of 'fence jumpers'.
>> But even if we were to build a wall, and elect a president interested in using it to protect America’s sovereignty, we’d be missing most of the problem — because the majority of new illegal aliens are actually visa overstayers. This is the most important — albeit buried — finding in a paper published this year by the Center for Migration Studies, an expansionist outfit run by the Scalabrinian Catholic order that nonetheless does serious work. Co-authored by Robert Warren, head of statistics for the old INS, the paper finds that the share of overstays among new illegal aliens has been rising pretty steadily since the 1980s and surpassed border infiltrators in 2008. The paper’s most recent estimate is for 2012, when nearly 60 percent of new illegal immigrants are believed to have entered legally on some sort of visa (or visa-waiver status, if they’re from a developed country) and then just stayed on after their time expired.But of course the imagery of "building a wall" and of hapless rapists screaming "curses, foiled again" in Spanish will sell as emotional hook much better than "we're going to tighten up our visas and the Treasury is going to pay for it". Because again --- "you don't sell solutions ... you sell feelings".
An indication of what’s driving this overstay crisis was highlighted by my colleague David North in a recent paper. He found a huge increase in the overall number of “non-immigrant” (i.e., ostensibly temporary) visas issued by the State Department, and an accompanying decline in the percentage of applications being denied. In just five years, from 2009 to 2014, the number of visas issued grew 71 percent, while the percentage of visa denials dropped from 18.6 percent to 15.3 percent. << ---- On Immigration, Fighting the Last War
So because Trump wants to build a wall, that means he's going to ignore all the other things that contribute to our illegal problem?
I don't think so. We never had a President serious about this issue before. Now we do. Things are going to change.
Of course people who overstayed their Visa's are not worried. What's to be worried about? You can still work here. In some states, you can still drive here. You can open up bank accounts here. Nobody will touch you unless you commit a serious crime.
I'm willing to bet that those here with expired Visa's are watching very carefully now, and those thinking of pulling the same stunt are watching as well.
Several years ago Arizona created their own illegals law. They could stop people and ask them for documentation. If found illegal, they could be held and turned over to ICE.
Articles reported many schools had students that didn't return to school. Companies claiming half of their work crew didn't report for work the next day. Those illegals got the hell out of Arizona until DumBama went to court and sued the state for overstepping their authority and the courts ruled in DumBama's favor.
Bottom line: a strong enough deterrent works every time it's tried.
"Bottom line: a strong enough deterrent works every time it's tried."
Absolutely hilarious!!
If it didn't "work" (whatever that means) then it must have failed because it wasn't "strong" (whatever that means).
Where do you find this stuff? I need to go there!
I'm sorry about your comprehension problems, so allow me to reiterate: IT DID WORK. The problem is DumBama put a stop to it.
I will point out that the number of undocumented aliens in America ceased to grow within a year or so of Obama becoming president.
So, that "worked"???
What was it that was "strong" enough? And, what did "strong" even mean?
Your saying just ignores the real world.
False.
That was a Republican con.
Republicans caused that and then they claimed that someone ELSE caused that.
Ah, so you're an Eliminationist yearning for a one-party state?
That oughta work out about as well as the aforementioned Taj Mahal.
So what do you think the Democrat goal was by trying to keep these illegals here? Minorities in every category vote Democrat by majority. The goal of Democrats is to make whites a minority in our own country as quickly as possible.
Trying to change the subject is not anything resembling an answer is it?
Blowing tens of billions of our tax dollars on a wall - when it can't solve the problem and wastes money we could be giving back to tax payers or addressing some REAL problem we actually face.Absolutely.I can't wait to see the protests against the wall by the people who's family are at risk by letting these killers in to our country.
California is one giant brain fart.
I support Trump on that, we should have boundaries. If Trump even makes the wall, he isn't going to make a huge wall across the whole southern border,they are already saying that some areas don't need it..
These people will know those exact spots , or tunnel in..
Let's also remember that the number of undocumented aliens in the US STOPPED GROWING early in the Obama administration.
Before we start spending billions on this "problem" we need to start being serious about what can actually be accomplished by a border wall.
Let's also remember that nearly half of those here without documentation came here LEGALLY. So, NO WALL would stop that.
By overstaying their visas. Way more than half by now. Point well taken, few are wall-jumping in the first place so the $25 billion wall, if it were actually a practical doable thing, would have no effect on that. This is a page out of the Rump University playbook, which literally told its fraudsters, "you don't sell solutions --- you sell feelings". Rump sold the feeling of a wall, the feeling of security therefrom, and the feeling that a foreign country with no reason to do so would pay for it.
When you sell to gullible people on the emotional level, rationality is ---- well, it's kept behind a wall.
It may not get all illegals but at least it shows we finally have a President that's going to make illegals awfully unwelcome. They are going to understand you can't come here, hide in one of these sanctuary cities, and stay for as long as you like.
Once those cities face losing federal funds, they will give up their sanctuary status and that gives illegals less places to hide. If I were Trump, I would also halt all road taxes to states that give illegals drivers licenses.
We KNOW what it means to fail to test drivers knowledge of the rules of the road and to demonstrate driving capability. Demanding that we all accept your alternate reality on that is just not acceptable.
And what do con artists do?
How'd "getting the Taj Mahal done" work out?
Con artists have to actually do something to con the people. Liberal crystal balls don't count as determining who is and isn't a con artist, actions do.
We were conned into believing that health insurance was going to be affordable to everyone. We were conned into believing that families could save up to $2,500 a year in health insurance premiums.
See? We have evidence of what a con artist actually is.
A con artist is somebody who leeches millions off the gullible with the aforementioned playbook maxim "you don't sell solutions; you sell feelings", then pays out 25 million bucks to settle the inevitable fraud case (after of course denying he'd ever do that) so that it wouldn't be sitting in front of the Electoral College when it came time to vote.
Trump is a fighter. The only reason he GAVE that money away is so he wouldn't have such a distraction to prevent him from doing his new (and such an important) job. His primary focus is now leading this country in the right direction, and he didn't need petty lawsuits to get in his way.
If Hil-Lair had won the election, Trump would have fought these losers all the way to defeat. He simply doesn't have that kind of time now.
Ah, so you're an Eliminationist yearning for a one-party state?
That oughta work out about as well as the aforementioned Taj Mahal.
So what do you think the Democrat goal was by trying to keep these illegals here? Minorities in every category vote Democrat by majority. The goal of Democrats is to make whites a minority in our own country as quickly as possible.
Trying to change the subject is not anything resembling an answer is it?
What I said is that if California wants to divorce this country, I welcome it. Republicans made no effort into such an action. On the other hand, I pointed out that this permissive minority acceptance by Democrats is solely to make this country a one-party government.
Ah, so you're an Eliminationist yearning for a one-party state?
That oughta work out about as well as the aforementioned Taj Mahal.
So what do you think the Democrat goal was by trying to keep these illegals here? Minorities in every category vote Democrat by majority. The goal of Democrats is to make whites a minority in our own country as quickly as possible.
Trying to change the subject is not anything resembling an answer is it?
What I said is that if California wants to divorce this country, I welcome it. Republicans made no effort into such an action. On the other hand, I pointed out that this permissive minority acceptance by Democrats is solely to make this country a one-party government.
I didn't bring up California. I asked if you were an Eliminationist yearning for a one-party state.
Are you?
