Trump vs Every other Pres

[Ringel05]

You may be tolerant of such a buffoon. The majority is embarrassed of him and his gang of grifters.

------------------------------------------- so its an emotional thing eh ?? All i say is America first and MAGA Nosmo ,

Not emotional at all. His comportment shows not mere incompetence, but criminality.

Never expected you to fall but then again I've oft seen the most rational, intellectual individuals turn into blithering partisan idiots in seconds when politics raises it's ugly head.......

I read the Mueller Report.

So? If a "Mueller Report" was honestly done on just about every politician that ever lived you'd come to the same conclusion......... If you were unbiasely honest.......

Besides, don't you think it's "funny" how the left and the right both find Confirmation Bias in the Mueller Report.......? I think it's quite telling.

 

[Nosmo King]

You may be tolerant of such a buffoon. The majority is embarrassed of him and his gang of grifters.

------------------------------------------- so its an emotional thing eh ?? All i say is America first and MAGA Nosmo ,

Not emotional at all. His comportment shows not mere incompetence, but criminality.

Never expected you to fall but then again I've oft seen the most rational, intellectual individuals turn into blithering partisan idiots in seconds when politics raises it's ugly head.......

I read the Mueller Report.

So? If a "Mueller Report" was honestly done on just about every politician that ever lived you'd come to the same conclusion......... If you were unbiasely honest.......

The discrediting of Mueller and the report has been stunning. Within 72 hours, Trump went from "Total exoneration!" And "No collusion! No obstruction!" to "conflicted" and essentially dishonest. What happened? Maybe someone in the White House read the report and prepared an easy to read Cliff Notes version for the president.

Then the echo chamber went to work and voila! The discrediting of both Mueller and his findings was on!

And I don't hold with 'whataboutism'. It ignores law, morality and ethical behavior in order to rationalize what adults understand as propriety. It's the kind of excuse kids use.

 

[Nosmo King]

------------------------------------------- so its an emotional thing eh ?? All i say is America first and MAGA Nosmo ,

Not emotional at all. His comportment shows not mere incompetence, but criminality.

Never expected you to fall but then again I've oft seen the most rational, intellectual individuals turn into blithering partisan idiots in seconds when politics raises it's ugly head.......

I read the Mueller Report.

So? If a "Mueller Report" was honestly done on just about every politician that ever lived you'd come to the same conclusion......... If you were unbiasely honest.......

Besides, don't you think it's "funny" how the left and the right both find Confirmation Bias in the Mueller Report.......? I think it's quite telling.

Read the thing for yourself. At least read volume 2.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

There will be about 250k protesters out today in London and there will be regional protests around the UK.

I have never seen anything like it although the visit of the Chinese leader caused a lot of disruption a few years back.

But the US is our ally and Presidential visits have never generated this level of hostility. Obama was treated like a rockstar and even Bush Jnr was given the respect he probably didnt deserve.

So why this time ?

Firstly forget about any Dem/Gop partisanship. Very few people over here have any interest in that relationship. Not enough to take a day off work anyway.

Its not really anti Americanism either although there will be some elements their. People dont like Americas oil wars or their propping up Israel. But again that is nothing new, it has always been there.

In the UK we watch American films,listen to American music and our cultures are heavily influenced by the US.

The issue is Trump himself. He is seen as a living breathing manifestation of everything wrong with humanity. Misogyny , racism, greed,lying, cheating, narcissism, I could go on.

These are the key issues that I think are driving the protests.

1. Climate change. The US should be leading on this but Trump is in the pocket of fossil fuel interests. This affects all of us and is huge.

2. Womens rights. Abortion is only an issue in Northern Ireland which is at least a generation behind modern Britain.People can see hard fought rights being taken away from their sisters in the US by right wing loons.The fear is that what happens in the US today comes to Europe tomorrow.

3. Racism. The Muslim ban shocked folk over here. We all have Muslim friends . Singling out one group for special treatment has been tried before and is Un American.

4. The NHS. People are terrified that a post brexit deal with the US will introduce the more barbaric elements of US healthcare into the UK. Trump wants it and our government would do anything to get a deal with the US. Scary times.


I am sure there are other issues but these seem to be the main ones. The good news is that it will all go away with Trump and it will be business as usual with his successor. The bad news is that liberal values are under threat across the world. We havent moved on too much from the gas chambers.

I know he has a strong personal base. I can imagine how they will react to this post. I am just trying to explain why the US President is so hated in the UK.

Thats some funny stuff. Sad that the UK has become so fascist and against the people.

 

[Ringel05]

------------------------------------------- so its an emotional thing eh ?? All i say is America first and MAGA Nosmo ,

Not emotional at all. His comportment shows not mere incompetence, but criminality.

Never expected you to fall but then again I've oft seen the most rational, intellectual individuals turn into blithering partisan idiots in seconds when politics raises it's ugly head.......

I read the Mueller Report.

So? If a "Mueller Report" was honestly done on just about every politician that ever lived you'd come to the same conclusion......... If you were unbiasely honest.......

The discrediting of Mueller and the report has been stunning. Within 72 hours, Trump went from "Total exoneration!" And "No collusion! No obstruction!" to "conflicted" and essentially dishonest. What happened? Maybe someone in the White House read the report and prepared an easy to read Cliff Notes version for the president.

Then the echo chamber went to work and voila! The discrediting of both Mueller and his findings was on!

And I don't hold with 'whataboutism'. It ignores law, morality and ethical behavior in order to rationalize what adults understand as propriety. It's the kind of excuse kids use.

You should look up Projectivism........

 

[jasonnfree]

I can honestly say: Americans give zero fucks what people in England think, there's a reason we kicked their statist asses out of our country by force, bitch.

All this does is highlight the indoctrination and weak minds of the UK people and how easily led they are. It started with communist infiltration into their education system in the early 70s and now the US is headed down the same path.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
Read more at: Winston Churchill Quotes

And yet Churchill's England and the rest of Europe has decent and affordable health care which is something we will never have thanks to our God fearing republicans.

 

[Ringel05]

Not emotional at all. His comportment shows not mere incompetence, but criminality.

Never expected you to fall but then again I've oft seen the most rational, intellectual individuals turn into blithering partisan idiots in seconds when politics raises it's ugly head.......

I read the Mueller Report.

So? If a "Mueller Report" was honestly done on just about every politician that ever lived you'd come to the same conclusion......... If you were unbiasely honest.......

Besides, don't you think it's "funny" how the left and the right both find Confirmation Bias in the Mueller Report.......? I think it's quite telling.

Read the thing for yourself. At least read volume 2.

Like I haven't? Of course I wasn't looking for evidence of guilt or innocence, I was reading it from a purely psychological/sociological standpoint. You know, trying to read it without pre-conceptions........

 

[LordBrownTrout]

I can honestly say: Americans give zero fucks what people in England think, there's a reason we kicked their statist asses out of our country by force, bitch.

All this does is highlight the indoctrination and weak minds of the UK people and how easily led they are. It started with communist infiltration into their education system in the early 70s and now the US is headed down the same path.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
Read more at: Winston Churchill Quotes

And yet Churchill's England and the rest of Europe has decent and affordable health care which is something we will never have thanks to our God fearing republicans.

They don't have decent healthcare over there.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I can honestly say: Americans give zero fucks what people in England think, there's a reason we kicked their statist asses out of our country by force, bitch.

All this does is highlight the indoctrination and weak minds of the UK people and how easily led they are. It started with communist infiltration into their education system in the early 70s and now the US is headed down the same path.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
Read more at: Winston Churchill Quotes

And yet Churchill's England and the rest of Europe has decent and affordable health care which is something we will never have thanks to our God fearing republicans.

And yet Churchill's England and the rest of Europe has decent and affordable health care

If the waiting list is long enough, health care is practically free.

 

[WillPower]

The Londoners hated Dubya more than Trump. Barry tried to toast the Queen during their national anthem when she was required to stand at attention.... Michelle grabbed ahold of her, the Queen's face frozen in terror. Willy Clinton probably grabbed her ass. The little I've watched of this crap, the more proud I am to be on the REBEL side of the street....remember, they burned down our White House and only quit trying to conquer us after Andy Jackson kicked their asses out of New Orleans. Hideous people...inbred, stinking of bangers and mash, teeth rotting from excessive tea gulping, and still bowing to a fucking QUEEN in the 21st century.

 

[Marion Morrison]

I can honestly say: Americans give zero fucks what people in England think, there's a reason we kicked their statist asses out of our country by force, bitch.

All this does is highlight the indoctrination and weak minds of the UK people and how easily led they are. It started with communist infiltration into their education system in the early 70s and now the US is headed down the same path.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
Read more at: Winston Churchill Quotes

And yet Churchill's England and the rest of Europe has decent and affordable health care which is something we will never have thanks to our God fearing republicans.

Yeah, their system is crap. "interminable waits".

U.K.'s Healthcare Horror Stories Ought To Curb Dems' Enthusiasm For Single-Payer

 

[Nosmo King]

Never expected you to fall but then again I've oft seen the most rational, intellectual individuals turn into blithering partisan idiots in seconds when politics raises it's ugly head.......

I read the Mueller Report.

So? If a "Mueller Report" was honestly done on just about every politician that ever lived you'd come to the same conclusion......... If you were unbiasely honest.......

Besides, don't you think it's "funny" how the left and the right both find Confirmation Bias in the Mueller Report.......? I think it's quite telling.

Read the thing for yourself. At least read volume 2.

Like I haven't? Of course I wasn't looking for evidence of guilt or innocence, I was reading it from a purely psychological/sociological standpoint. You know, trying to read it without pre-conceptions........

Oddly the Mueller Report is not about sociology or psychology. It is a presentation of factual evidence.

 

[Olde Europe]

Moved to politics, this should have never been placed in the CDZ.

Is there a general rule as to what should (not) be "placed in the CDZ"? TIA.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

There will be about 250k protesters out today in London and there will be regional protests around the UK.

I have never seen anything like it although the visit of the Chinese leader caused a lot of disruption a few years back.

But the US is our ally and Presidential visits have never generated this level of hostility. Obama was treated like a rockstar and even Bush Jnr was given the respect he probably didnt deserve.

So why this time ?

Firstly forget about any Dem/Gop partisanship. Very few people over here have any interest in that relationship. Not enough to take a day off work anyway.

Its not really anti Americanism either although there will be some elements their. People dont like Americas oil wars or their propping up Israel. But again that is nothing new, it has always been there.

In the UK we watch American films,listen to American music and our cultures are heavily influenced by the US.

The issue is Trump himself. He is seen as a living breathing manifestation of everything wrong with humanity. Misogyny , racism, greed,lying, cheating, narcissism, I could go on.

There will be about 250k protesters out today in London and there will be regional protests around the UK.

I have never seen anything like it although the visit of the Chinese leader caused a lot of disruption a few years back.

But the US is our ally and Presidential visits have never generated this level of hostility. Obama was treated like a rockstar and even Bush Jnr was given the respect he probably didnt deserve.

So why this time ?

Firstly forget about any Dem/Gop partisanship. Very few people over here have any interest in that relationship. Not enough to take a day off work anyway.

Its not really anti Americanism either although there will be some elements their. People dont like Americas oil wars or their propping up Israel. But again that is nothing new, it has always been there.

In the UK we watch American films,listen to American music and our cultures are heavily influenced by the US.

The issue is Trump himself. He is seen as a living breathing manifestation of everything wrong with humanity. Misogyny , racism, greed,lying, cheating, narcissism, I could go on.

These are the key issues that I think are driving the protests.

1. Climate change. The US should be leading on this but Trump is in the pocket of fossil fuel interests. This affects all of us and is huge.

2. Womens rights. Abortion is only an issue in Northern Ireland which is at least a generation behind modern Britain.People can see hard fought rights being taken away from their sisters in the US by right wing loons.The fear is that what happens in the US today comes to Europe tomorrow.

3. Racism. The Muslim ban shocked folk over here. We all have Muslim friends . Singling out one group for special treatment has been tried before and is Un American.

4. The NHS. People are terrified that a post brexit deal with the US will introduce the more barbaric elements of US healthcare into the UK. Trump wants it and our government would do anything to get a deal with the US. Scary times.


I am sure there are other issues but these seem to be the main ones. The good news is that it will all go away with Trump and it will be business as usual with his successor. The bad news is that liberal values are under threat across the world. We havent moved on too much from the gas chambers.

I know he has a strong personal base. I can imagine how they will react to this post. I am just trying to explain why the US President is so hated in the UK.

So when Obama sent the bust of Churchill packing back to UK, you loved the faggot? When Obama game the queen his I-pod of speeches that was okay? When Obama gave the PM a set of DVD of old movies that was okay? Oblammer hated your guts for colonialism, I guess you are okay? What a fucking dumbass you are..

These are the key issues that I think are driving the protests.

1. Climate change. The US should be leading on this but Trump is in the pocket of fossil fuel interests. This affects all of us and is huge.

2. Womens rights. Abortion is only an issue in Northern Ireland which is at least a generation behind modern Britain.People can see hard fought rights being taken away from their sisters in the US by right wing loons.The fear is that what happens in the US today comes to Europe tomorrow.

3. Racism. The Muslim ban shocked folk over here. We all have Muslim friends . Singling out one group for special treatment has been tried before and is Un American.

4. The NHS. People are terrified that a post brexit deal with the US will introduce the more barbaric elements of US healthcare into the UK. Trump wants it and our government would do anything to get a deal with the US. Scary times.


I am sure there are other issues but these seem to be the main ones. The good news is that it will all go away with Trump and it will be business as usual with his successor. The bad news is that liberal values are under threat across the world. We havent moved on too much from the gas chambers.

I know he has a strong personal base. I can imagine how they will react to this post. I am just trying to explain why the US President is so hated in the UK.

So when Obama sent the bust of Churchill packing back to UK, you loved the faggot? When Obama game the queen his I-pod of speeches that was okay? When Obama gave the PM a set of DVD of old movies that was okay? Oblammer hated your guts for colonialism, I guess you are okay? What a fucking dumbass you are..

I have reported your post and a few others for breach of cdz rules.
Regarding the non abusive part of your post. I really couldnt care less. I dont know anyone else who is bothered either. I am no supporter of colonialism , not sure who is.

You have been reported for being a dumbass....

 

[Cellblock2429]

There will be about 250k protesters out today in London and there will be regional protests around the UK.

I have never seen anything like it although the visit of the Chinese leader caused a lot of disruption a few years back.

But the US is our ally and Presidential visits have never generated this level of hostility. Obama was treated like a rockstar and even Bush Jnr was given the respect he probably didnt deserve.

So why this time ?

Firstly forget about any Dem/Gop partisanship. Very few people over here have any interest in that relationship. Not enough to take a day off work anyway.

Its not really anti Americanism either although there will be some elements their. People dont like Americas oil wars or their propping up Israel. But again that is nothing new, it has always been there.

In the UK we watch American films,listen to American music and our cultures are heavily influenced by the US.

The issue is Trump himself. He is seen as a living breathing manifestation of everything wrong with humanity. Misogyny , racism, greed,lying, cheating, narcissism, I could go on.

These are the key issues that I think are driving the protests.

1. Climate change. The US should be leading on this but Trump is in the pocket of fossil fuel interests. This affects all of us and is huge.

2. Womens rights. Abortion is only an issue in Northern Ireland which is at least a generation behind modern Britain.People can see hard fought rights being taken away from their sisters in the US by right wing loons.The fear is that what happens in the US today comes to Europe tomorrow.

3. Racism. The Muslim ban shocked folk over here. We all have Muslim friends . Singling out one group for special treatment has been tried before and is Un American.

4. The NHS. People are terrified that a post brexit deal with the US will introduce the more barbaric elements of US healthcare into the UK. Trump wants it and our government would do anything to get a deal with the US. Scary times.


I am sure there are other issues but these seem to be the main ones. The good news is that it will all go away with Trump and it will be business as usual with his successor. The bad news is that liberal values are under threat across the world. We havent moved on too much from the gas chambers.

I know he has a strong personal base. I can imagine how they will react to this post. I am just trying to explain why the US President is so hated in the UK.

/——/ Obozo is a fellow socialist so naturally you guys loved him. Trump stands up for America and capitalism and that generates the Brit’s hissing fits. BTW Trump supports are held hostage by police in a London pub.

 

[bripat9643]

Tells you how easily controlled Limeys are.

CNN is their only cable news source, so their opinions are hardly surprising.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

UK has a huge Leftist element. These persons are for open borders, Islamic domination, awful economy and loss of British culture and history. On the other side you have Brexit supporters. 250k is a tiny % of the population.

Lastly, Trump is polarizing. That is true whether you like or dislike him.

Your final sentence probably explains it because the UK hasnt changed since Bush was over here.

London had a Muslim mayor when Bush was there? The people voted to leave the EU when Bush was there? I do not agree with you.

I dont understand the link you are making. Ken Livingstone was the Mayor. He hated the Americans. Mr Khan is extremely moderate in comparison. Sadiq Khan is a pretty minor figure in all of this.

My point is that things have changed dramatically since Bush. Lastly, London doesn't speak for the UK just like NY doesn't speak for the US. NY is a Leftist state (mostly NYC) but hardly speaks for all of America.

 

[Meister]

Moved to politics, this should have never been placed in the CDZ.

Is there a general rule as to what should (not) be "placed in the CDZ"? TIA.

Yes, a topic that isn't inflammatory in the OP. Tom set it up where he was making a statement,
then besmirching the president. What kind of response was he expecting?

 

[Thinker101]

I read the Mueller Report.

So? If a "Mueller Report" was honestly done on just about every politician that ever lived you'd come to the same conclusion......... If you were unbiasely honest.......

Besides, don't you think it's "funny" how the left and the right both find Confirmation Bias in the Mueller Report.......? I think it's quite telling.

Read the thing for yourself. At least read volume 2.

Like I haven't? Of course I wasn't looking for evidence of guilt or innocence, I was reading it from a purely psychological/sociological standpoint. You know, trying to read it without pre-conceptions........

Oddly the Mueller Report is not about sociology or psychology. It is a presentation of factual evidence.

Presentation of factual evidence? WTF?

 

[Ringel05]

I read the Mueller Report.

So? If a "Mueller Report" was honestly done on just about every politician that ever lived you'd come to the same conclusion......... If you were unbiasely honest.......

Besides, don't you think it's "funny" how the left and the right both find Confirmation Bias in the Mueller Report.......? I think it's quite telling.

Read the thing for yourself. At least read volume 2.

Like I haven't? Of course I wasn't looking for evidence of guilt or innocence, I was reading it from a purely psychological/sociological standpoint. You know, trying to read it without pre-conceptions........

Oddly the Mueller Report is not about sociology or psychology. It is a presentation of factual evidence.

If you chose to believe that, there are those who contend your assessment and yes, it has everything to do with sociology and psychology. All aspects of life does.