Trump vs Every other Pres

[Olde Europe]

Moved to politics, this should have never been placed in the CDZ.

Is there a general rule as to what should (not) be "placed in the CDZ"? TIA.

Yes, a topic that isn't inflammatory in the OP. Tom set it up where he was making a statement, then besmirching the president. What kind of response was he expecting?

I have no idea what Tommy was expecting. I would have expected reactions compliant with CDZ rules, or, failing that, moderators enforcing these rules, i.e., purging personal attacks and such.

The topic is, why is Trump engendering a vastly different reaction in Britain than did every other U.S. president? I, for one, cannot see what is inflammatory about that topic.

 

[Meister]

Moved to politics, this should have never been placed in the CDZ.

Is there a general rule as to what should (not) be "placed in the CDZ"? TIA.

Yes, a topic that isn't inflammatory in the OP. Tom set it up where he was making a statement, then besmirching the president. What kind of response was he expecting?

I have no idea what Tommy was expecting. I would have expected reactions compliant with CDZ rules, or, failing that, moderators enforcing these rules, i.e., purging personal attacks and such.

The topic is, why is Trump engendering a vastly different reaction in Britain than did every other U.S. president? I, for one, cannot see what is inflammatory about that topic.

When Tom calls a group "right wing loons"in the OP, does that, or does that not reek of a call out?
The topic was not the issue, it was the presentation. Tell you what.....go look at the other CDZ OPs, and see
the presentation of those. Look for the name calling, the baiting, and see what you find.
Then get back to me and tell me I'm not doing my job.....okay?

 

[HappyJoy]

Lovely toast the Queen gave....and Trump's showed real respect.

Greg

Other than a tuxedo that matched the size of his heart, 3 sizes too small and practically falling asleep during the Queen's speech.

 

[Flash]

There will be about 250k protesters out today in London and there will be regional protests around the UK.

I have never seen anything like it although the visit of the Chinese leader caused a lot of disruption a few years back.

But the US is our ally and Presidential visits have never generated this level of hostility. Obama was treated like a rockstar and even Bush Jnr was given the respect he probably didnt deserve.

So why this time ?

Firstly forget about any Dem/Gop partisanship. Very few people over here have any interest in that relationship. Not enough to take a day off work anyway.

Its not really anti Americanism either although there will be some elements their. People dont like Americas oil wars or their propping up Israel. But again that is nothing new, it has always been there.

In the UK we watch American films,listen to American music and our cultures are heavily influenced by the US.

The issue is Trump himself. He is seen as a living breathing manifestation of everything wrong with humanity. Misogyny , racism, greed,lying, cheating, narcissism, I could go on.

These are the key issues that I think are driving the protests.

1. Climate change. The US should be leading on this but Trump is in the pocket of fossil fuel interests. This affects all of us and is huge.

2. Womens rights. Abortion is only an issue in Northern Ireland which is at least a generation behind modern Britain.People can see hard fought rights being taken away from their sisters in the US by right wing loons.The fear is that what happens in the US today comes to Europe tomorrow.

3. Racism. The Muslim ban shocked folk over here. We all have Muslim friends . Singling out one group for special treatment has been tried before and is Un American.

4. The NHS. People are terrified that a post brexit deal with the US will introduce the more barbaric elements of US healthcare into the UK. Trump wants it and our government would do anything to get a deal with the US. Scary times.


I am sure there are other issues but these seem to be the main ones. The good news is that it will all go away with Trump and it will be business as usual with his successor. The bad news is that liberal values are under threat across the world. We havent moved on too much from the gas chambers.

I know he has a strong personal base. I can imagine how they will react to this post. I am just trying to explain why the US President is so hated in the UK.

Fake news Moon Bat.

Nowhere near that number of protesters. Also many of what the fake news called protestors are Trump supporters.

The approval rates on that silly picture is also fake news. Obama never got that high and Trump has never been that low. Only in Moon Bat Land.

Your Trump Derangement Syndrome mental Illness is causing you to be delusional. Go seek mental health treatment.

 

[imawhosure]

There will be about 250k protesters out today in London and there will be regional protests around the UK.

I have never seen anything like it although the visit of the Chinese leader caused a lot of disruption a few years back.

But the US is our ally and Presidential visits have never generated this level of hostility. Obama was treated like a rockstar and even Bush Jnr was given the respect he probably didnt deserve.

So why this time ?

Firstly forget about any Dem/Gop partisanship. Very few people over here have any interest in that relationship. Not enough to take a day off work anyway.

Its not really anti Americanism either although there will be some elements their. People dont like Americas oil wars or their propping up Israel. But again that is nothing new, it has always been there.

In the UK we watch American films,listen to American music and our cultures are heavily influenced by the US.

The issue is Trump himself. He is seen as a living breathing manifestation of everything wrong with humanity. Misogyny , racism, greed,lying, cheating, narcissism, I could go on.

These are the key issues that I think are driving the protests.

1. Climate change. The US should be leading on this but Trump is in the pocket of fossil fuel interests. This affects all of us and is huge.

2. Womens rights. Abortion is only an issue in Northern Ireland which is at least a generation behind modern Britain.People can see hard fought rights being taken away from their sisters in the US by right wing loons.The fear is that what happens in the US today comes to Europe tomorrow.

3. Racism. The Muslim ban shocked folk over here. We all have Muslim friends . Singling out one group for special treatment has been tried before and is Un American.

4. The NHS. People are terrified that a post brexit deal with the US will introduce the more barbaric elements of US healthcare into the UK. Trump wants it and our government would do anything to get a deal with the US. Scary times.


I am sure there are other issues but these seem to be the main ones. The good news is that it will all go away with Trump and it will be business as usual with his successor. The bad news is that liberal values are under threat across the world. We havent moved on too much from the gas chambers.

I know he has a strong personal base. I can imagine how they will react to this post. I am just trying to explain why the US President is so hated in the UK.

Should have waited to see before crowing, lol. Very small protests. The UK looks like it loves Trump as much as we do; although that kinda leaves you on the outside, looking in SOCIALIST-)

 

[Flash]

At most there were 10K according to reliable sources. Not the quarter of a million the fake news said were coming.

Hell, Reagan use to get a half million Commies in London when he was trying to stand up to the Soviet Union.

 

[WillMunny]

There will be about 250k protesters out today in London and there will be regional protests around the UK.

I have never seen anything like it although the visit of the Chinese leader caused a lot of disruption a few years back.

But the US is our ally and Presidential visits have never generated this level of hostility. Obama was treated like a rockstar and even Bush Jnr was given the respect he probably didnt deserve.

So why this time ?

Firstly forget about any Dem/Gop partisanship. Very few people over here have any interest in that relationship. Not enough to take a day off work anyway.

Its not really anti Americanism either although there will be some elements their. People dont like Americas oil wars or their propping up Israel. But again that is nothing new, it has always been there.

In the UK we watch American films,listen to American music and our cultures are heavily influenced by the US.

The issue is Trump himself. He is seen as a living breathing manifestation of everything wrong with humanity. Misogyny , racism, greed,lying, cheating, narcissism, I could go on.

These are the key issues that I think are driving the protests.

1. Climate change. The US should be leading on this but Trump is in the pocket of fossil fuel interests. This affects all of us and is huge.

2. Womens rights. Abortion is only an issue in Northern Ireland which is at least a generation behind modern Britain.People can see hard fought rights being taken away from their sisters in the US by right wing loons.The fear is that what happens in the US today comes to Europe tomorrow.

3. Racism. The Muslim ban shocked folk over here. We all have Muslim friends . Singling out one group for special treatment has been tried before and is Un American.

4. The NHS. People are terrified that a post brexit deal with the US will introduce the more barbaric elements of US healthcare into the UK. Trump wants it and our government would do anything to get a deal with the US. Scary times.


I am sure there are other issues but these seem to be the main ones. The good news is that it will all go away with Trump and it will be business as usual with his successor. The bad news is that liberal values are under threat across the world. We havent moved on too much from the gas chambers.

I know he has a strong personal base. I can imagine how they will react to this post. I am just trying to explain why the US President is so hated in the UK.

If any fellow Americans on this board (including you liberals) give a flying fuck about ANYTHING this jaw-droppingly American-hating, Islamic rentboy says about America, please raise your hand. This Tommy pig is so obsessed with snobbishly looking down at us, I won't even bother hoping this Welsh (a farting afterthought out of England's asshole) pathological LIAR contracts some form of cancer. This sniveling, whinging little Brit isn't even interesting enough to make me sick!

Again, I'm such a sensitive, proper gentleman, I'm NOT going to call Tommy the abomination he is, a pitiful little clown-like thing who never grew up and learned how to ACT LIKE A MAN. Because I'm too kind to call this troll the slimy scum of humanity I'm sure all other USMBers would call him. I'm such a nice, friendly guy I won't call this Brit the UK's shitheaded testament to everything humanity has done wrong. I'm also too nice to mention that I've seen tracksuit-wearing, booze-pickled, massively inbreeding chavs on the UK's "Jeremy Kyle Show" with greater intelligence and character than Tommytainant, I'll leave those insults to other people.

 

[Olde Europe]

When Tom calls a group "right wing loons"in the OP, does that, or does that not reek of a call out?

I agree. Calling those sex-deprived, misogynistic, murderous, bible-banging, proto-fascistic, Supreme Court-disrespecting fetus fetishists, endeavoring to re-criminalize abortion, "right wing loons" shows a criminal lack of devotion to accuracy, and a truly offensive lack of creativity. Calling these lawmakers out... I cannot bring myself to approve of such weak sauce as Tommy poured over them, well-intentioned tough he may have been.

 

[Meathead]

There will be about 250k protesters out today in London and there will be regional protests around the UK.

I have never seen anything like it although the visit of the Chinese leader caused a lot of disruption a few years back.

But the US is our ally and Presidential visits have never generated this level of hostility. Obama was treated like a rockstar and even Bush Jnr was given the respect he probably didnt deserve.

So why this time ?

Firstly forget about any Dem/Gop partisanship. Very few people over here have any interest in that relationship. Not enough to take a day off work anyway.

Its not really anti Americanism either although there will be some elements their. People dont like Americas oil wars or their propping up Israel. But again that is nothing new, it has always been there.

In the UK we watch American films,listen to American music and our cultures are heavily influenced by the US.

The issue is Trump himself. He is seen as a living breathing manifestation of everything wrong with humanity. Misogyny , racism, greed,lying, cheating, narcissism, I could go on.

These are the key issues that I think are driving the protests.

1. Climate change. The US should be leading on this but Trump is in the pocket of fossil fuel interests. This affects all of us and is huge.

2. Womens rights. Abortion is only an issue in Northern Ireland which is at least a generation behind modern Britain.People can see hard fought rights being taken away from their sisters in the US by right wing loons.The fear is that what happens in the US today comes to Europe tomorrow.

3. Racism. The Muslim ban shocked folk over here. We all have Muslim friends . Singling out one group for special treatment has been tried before and is Un American.

4. The NHS. People are terrified that a post brexit deal with the US will introduce the more barbaric elements of US healthcare into the UK. Trump wants it and our government would do anything to get a deal with the US. Scary times.


I am sure there are other issues but these seem to be the main ones. The good news is that it will all go away with Trump and it will be business as usual with his successor. The bad news is that liberal values are under threat across the world. We havent moved on too much from the gas chambers.

I know he has a strong personal base. I can imagine how they will react to this post. I am just trying to explain why the US President is so hated in the UK.

250,000?! LOL

Fizzled badly I hear.

 

[Correll]

When Tom calls a group "right wing loons"in the OP, does that, or does that not reek of a call out?

I agree. Calling those sex-deprived, misogynistic, murderous, bible-banging, proto-fascistic, Supreme Court-disrespecting fetus fetishists endeavoring to re-criminalize abortion "right wing loons" shows a criminal lack of devotion to accuracy, and a truly offensive lack of creativity. Calling these lawmakers out... I cannot bring myself to approve of such weak sauce as Tommy poured over them, well-intentioned tough he may have been.

Your hate has made you delusional.

 

[Meister]

When Tom calls a group "right wing loons"in the OP, does that, or does that not reek of a call out?

I agree. Calling those sex-deprived, misogynistic, murderous, bible-banging, proto-fascistic, Supreme Court-disrespecting fetus fetishists endeavoring to re-criminalize abortion "right wing loons" shows a criminal lack of devotion to accuracy, and a truly offensive lack of creativity. Calling these lawmakers out... I cannot bring myself to approve of such weak sauce as Tommy poured over them, well-intentioned tough he may have been.

Dude, you can be as snarky as you like.....makes no difference to me. All, I'm saying is that it
didn't belong in the CDZ forum.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

There will be about 250k protesters out today in London and there will be regional protests around the UK.

I have never seen anything like it although the visit of the Chinese leader caused a lot of disruption a few years back.

But the US is our ally and Presidential visits have never generated this level of hostility. Obama was treated like a rockstar and even Bush Jnr was given the respect he probably didnt deserve.

So why this time ?

Firstly forget about any Dem/Gop partisanship. Very few people over here have any interest in that relationship. Not enough to take a day off work anyway.

Its not really anti Americanism either although there will be some elements their. People dont like Americas oil wars or their propping up Israel. But again that is nothing new, it has always been there.

In the UK we watch American films,listen to American music and our cultures are heavily influenced by the US.

The issue is Trump himself. He is seen as a living breathing manifestation of everything wrong with humanity. Misogyny , racism, greed,lying, cheating, narcissism, I could go on.

These are the key issues that I think are driving the protests.

1. Climate change. The US should be leading on this but Trump is in the pocket of fossil fuel interests. This affects all of us and is huge.

2. Womens rights. Abortion is only an issue in Northern Ireland which is at least a generation behind modern Britain.People can see hard fought rights being taken away from their sisters in the US by right wing loons.The fear is that what happens in the US today comes to Europe tomorrow.

3. Racism. The Muslim ban shocked folk over here. We all have Muslim friends . Singling out one group for special treatment has been tried before and is Un American.

4. The NHS. People are terrified that a post brexit deal with the US will introduce the more barbaric elements of US healthcare into the UK. Trump wants it and our government would do anything to get a deal with the US. Scary times.


I am sure there are other issues but these seem to be the main ones. The good news is that it will all go away with Trump and it will be business as usual with his successor. The bad news is that liberal values are under threat across the world. We havent moved on too much from the gas chambers.

I know he has a strong personal base. I can imagine how they will react to this post. I am just trying to explain why the US President is so hated in the UK.

. Barbaric is killing unborn children and having a Government bureaucracy making all of your decisions for you. You can keep your medieval form of government but make sure to pucker up for that ass kissing your going to be giving the EU and the Chinese. Oh and Muslim is not a race you loon, regardless if Trumps travel restrictions was an actual ban it was the shittiest in history because it didn't affect the other billion or so Muslims around the world.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

There will be about 250k protesters out today in London and there will be regional protests around the UK.

I have never seen anything like it although the visit of the Chinese leader caused a lot of disruption a few years back.

But the US is our ally and Presidential visits have never generated this level of hostility. Obama was treated like a rockstar and even Bush Jnr was given the respect he probably didnt deserve.

So why this time ?

Firstly forget about any Dem/Gop partisanship. Very few people over here have any interest in that relationship. Not enough to take a day off work anyway.

Its not really anti Americanism either although there will be some elements their. People dont like Americas oil wars or their propping up Israel. But again that is nothing new, it has always been there.

In the UK we watch American films,listen to American music and our cultures are heavily influenced by the US.

The issue is Trump himself. He is seen as a living breathing manifestation of everything wrong with humanity. Misogyny , racism, greed,lying, cheating, narcissism, I could go on.

These are the key issues that I think are driving the protests.

1. Climate change. The US should be leading on this but Trump is in the pocket of fossil fuel interests. This affects all of us and is huge.

2. Womens rights. Abortion is only an issue in Northern Ireland which is at least a generation behind modern Britain.People can see hard fought rights being taken away from their sisters in the US by right wing loons.The fear is that what happens in the US today comes to Europe tomorrow.

3. Racism. The Muslim ban shocked folk over here. We all have Muslim friends . Singling out one group for special treatment has been tried before and is Un American.

4. The NHS. People are terrified that a post brexit deal with the US will introduce the more barbaric elements of US healthcare into the UK. Trump wants it and our government would do anything to get a deal with the US. Scary times.


I am sure there are other issues but these seem to be the main ones. The good news is that it will all go away with Trump and it will be business as usual with his successor. The bad news is that liberal values are under threat across the world. We havent moved on too much from the gas chambers.

I know he has a strong personal base. I can imagine how they will react to this post. I am just trying to explain why the US President is so hated in the UK.

I read Trump is doing an excellent job, because every point in the OP is subjective snowflakism.

 

[Olde Europe]

Dude, you can be as snarky as you like.....makes no difference to me. All, I'm saying is that it didn't belong in the CDZ forum.

Is the above a mod action?

And yes, I understood the first time it didn't belong in CDZ - I am still trying to understand why that is. The rule...

No Name Calling Or Putting Down Posters

... I understood as prohibiting putting down posters. I wasn't aware that rule rendered low-life lawmakers or a vulgar, narcissistic clown of a pretend-president beyond criticism.

 

[Meister]

Dude, you can be as snarky as you like.....makes no difference to me. All, I'm saying is that it didn't belong in the CDZ forum.

Is the above a mod action?

.

Yes, that was mod related, because I wouldn't have wasted my time responding to you as a poster...as I am now.

 

[theHawk]

There will be about 250k protesters out today in London and there will be regional protests around the UK.

I have never seen anything like it although the visit of the Chinese leader caused a lot of disruption a few years back.

But the US is our ally and Presidential visits have never generated this level of hostility. Obama was treated like a rockstar and even Bush Jnr was given the respect he probably didnt deserve.

So why this time ?

Firstly forget about any Dem/Gop partisanship. Very few people over here have any interest in that relationship. Not enough to take a day off work anyway.

Its not really anti Americanism either although there will be some elements their. People dont like Americas oil wars or their propping up Israel. But again that is nothing new, it has always been there.

In the UK we watch American films,listen to American music and our cultures are heavily influenced by the US.

The issue is Trump himself. He is seen as a living breathing manifestation of everything wrong with humanity. Misogyny , racism, greed,lying, cheating, narcissism, I could go on.

These are the key issues that I think are driving the protests.

1. Climate change. The US should be leading on this but Trump is in the pocket of fossil fuel interests. This affects all of us and is huge.

2. Womens rights. Abortion is only an issue in Northern Ireland which is at least a generation behind modern Britain.People can see hard fought rights being taken away from their sisters in the US by right wing loons.The fear is that what happens in the US today comes to Europe tomorrow.

3. Racism. The Muslim ban shocked folk over here. We all have Muslim friends . Singling out one group for special treatment has been tried before and is Un American.

4. The NHS. People are terrified that a post brexit deal with the US will introduce the more barbaric elements of US healthcare into the UK. Trump wants it and our government would do anything to get a deal with the US. Scary times.


I am sure there are other issues but these seem to be the main ones. The good news is that it will all go away with Trump and it will be business as usual with his successor. The bad news is that liberal values are under threat across the world. We havent moved on too much from the gas chambers.

I know he has a strong personal base. I can imagine how they will react to this post. I am just trying to explain why the US President is so hated in the UK.

Thank God our ancestors decided to permanently separate from you people.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Dude, you can be as snarky as you like.....makes no difference to me. All, I'm saying is that it didn't belong in the CDZ forum.

Is the above a mod action?

And yes, I understood the first time it didn't belong in CDZ - I am still trying to understand why that is. The rule...

No Name Calling Or Putting Down Posters

... I understood as prohibiting putting down posters. I wasn't aware that rule rendered low-life lawmakers or a vulgar, narcissistic clown of a pretend-president beyond criticism.

The issue I believe is related to the amount of work needed to mod a bunch of shit kicking backward fucks. Easier to boot it out but not a victory for civilised discourse.

 

[sartre play]

So why this time ?

Because your handlers told you that you're not supposed to like him.

Who are tommy's handlers?

 

[Third Party]

There will be about 250k protesters out today in London and there will be regional protests around the UK.

I have never seen anything like it although the visit of the Chinese leader caused a lot of disruption a few years back.

But the US is our ally and Presidential visits have never generated this level of hostility. Obama was treated like a rockstar and even Bush Jnr was given the respect he probably didnt deserve.

So why this time ?

Firstly forget about any Dem/Gop partisanship. Very few people over here have any interest in that relationship. Not enough to take a day off work anyway.

Its not really anti Americanism either although there will be some elements their. People dont like Americas oil wars or their propping up Israel. But again that is nothing new, it has always been there.

In the UK we watch American films,listen to American music and our cultures are heavily influenced by the US.

The issue is Trump himself. He is seen as a living breathing manifestation of everything wrong with humanity. Misogyny , racism, greed,lying, cheating, narcissism, I could go on.

These are the key issues that I think are driving the protests.

1. Climate change. The US should be leading on this but Trump is in the pocket of fossil fuel interests. This affects all of us and is huge.

2. Womens rights. Abortion is only an issue in Northern Ireland which is at least a generation behind modern Britain.People can see hard fought rights being taken away from their sisters in the US by right wing loons.The fear is that what happens in the US today comes to Europe tomorrow.

3. Racism. The Muslim ban shocked folk over here. We all have Muslim friends . Singling out one group for special treatment has been tried before and is Un American.

4. The NHS. People are terrified that a post brexit deal with the US will introduce the more barbaric elements of US healthcare into the UK. Trump wants it and our government would do anything to get a deal with the US. Scary times.


I am sure there are other issues but these seem to be the main ones. The good news is that it will all go away with Trump and it will be business as usual with his successor. The bad news is that liberal values are under threat across the world. We havent moved on too much from the gas chambers.

I know he has a strong personal base. I can imagine how they will react to this post. I am just trying to explain why the US President is so hated in the UK.

OK, now consider this. First climate change, until China and India mend their ways, we are all just pissing in the wind. Second, Trump said he takes Reagan's position on abortion-no inherent danger there. Third, apparently you never heard of 911? Trump keeps them out for their own safety-a lot of people would like to see harm come to them-maybe in a few years...Fourth, my healthcare is just fine. Lastly, you worry too much.

 

[Olde Europe]

Who are tommy's handlers?

Good question. The author, I trust, will be back shortly to name them. Couldn't be the "handlers" slur was merely meant as a put-down, could it?