Trump - "The plan includes...."

[Harpy Eagle]

If Trump gets his way, he will shut the government down every chance he gets.

How many times after the GOP gave into Obama in 2013 did Obama shut down the government?

 

[Cellblock2429]

If Trump gets his way, he will shut the government down every chance he gets.

How many times after the GOP gave into Obama in 2013 did Obama shut down the government?

/-----/ Year:2013 16 days Employees furloughed: 800,000 Cost $2.1 billion Prez: Obama

 

[BULLDOG]

If Trump gets his way, he will shut the government down every chance he gets.

How many times after the GOP gave into Obama in 2013 did Obama shut down the government?

None that I know of. The 2013 shut down wasn't caused by Obama refusing to sign a bill that was on his desk.

 

[Crepitus]

In todays address Trump said:

"the plan includes $5.7 billion for a strategic deployment of physical barriers, or a wall. This is not a 2,000 mile concrete structure from sea to sea. These are steel barriers in high priority locations."

So how about if the Dems agree to give around $800mil this year for "steel barriers in high priority locations."

That should be a good start. If they're placed at the highest priority locations, it should have a measureable effect on illegal immigration. If so, Congress can continue additional funding in subsequent years.

I believe that Trump would never agree to this. He wants his $5.7bil to build a 2000 miles monument to himself. He couldn't care less about illegal immigration.

Hadrian had his wall, now Trump wants one.

If he's genuine about stopping immigration. he'd accept $800mil to get "steel barriers in high priority locations" as a start.

There's a reason he insists on $5.7bil.

He had a offer a while ago for $25 billion in exchange for a permanent fix for the DACA kids and he turned it down.

He really has no idea what he's doing.

 

[eagle1462010]

In todays address Trump said:

"the plan includes $5.7 billion for a strategic deployment of physical barriers, or a wall. This is not a 2,000 mile concrete structure from sea to sea. These are steel barriers in high priority locations."

So how about if the Dems agree to give around $800mil this year for "steel barriers in high priority locations."

That should be a good start. If they're placed at the highest priority locations, it should have a measureable effect on illegal immigration. If so, Congress can continue additional funding in subsequent years.

I believe that Trump would never agree to this. He wants his $5.7bil to build a 2000 miles monument to himself. He couldn't care less about illegal immigration.

Hadrian had his wall, now Trump wants one.

If he's genuine about stopping immigration. he'd accept $800mil to get "steel barriers in high priority locations" as a start.

There's a reason he insists on $5.7bil.

He had a offer a while ago for $25 billion in exchange for a permanent fix for the DACA kids and he turned it down.

He really has no idea what he's doing.

Schumer-Rounds-Collins Destroys Ability of DHS to Enforce Immigration Laws, Creating a Mass Amnesty For Over 10 Million Illegal Aliens, Including Criminals

 

[Crepitus]

In todays address Trump said:

"the plan includes $5.7 billion for a strategic deployment of physical barriers, or a wall. This is not a 2,000 mile concrete structure from sea to sea. These are steel barriers in high priority locations."

So how about if the Dems agree to give around $800mil this year for "steel barriers in high priority locations."

That should be a good start. If they're placed at the highest priority locations, it should have a measureable effect on illegal immigration. If so, Congress can continue additional funding in subsequent years.

I believe that Trump would never agree to this. He wants his $5.7bil to build a 2000 miles monument to himself. He couldn't care less about illegal immigration.

Hadrian had his wall, now Trump wants one.

If he's genuine about stopping immigration. he'd accept $800mil to get "steel barriers in high priority locations" as a start.

There's a reason he insists on $5.7bil.

He had a offer a while ago for $25 billion in exchange for a permanent fix for the DACA kids and he turned it down.

He really has no idea what he's doing.

Schumer-Rounds-Collins Destroys Ability of DHS to Enforce Immigration Laws, Creating a Mass Amnesty For Over 10 Million Illegal Aliens, Including Criminals

Thats nice, propaganda from tRump's nut-job DHS secretary.

It doesn't change the fact that it gave him every penny he wanted for a wall.

 

[Richard-H]

Trump's definition of the Wall keeps changing.....

Yet the $5.7bil figure does not.

IF he meant what he 's said (which would be a first), he'd be happy to take a smaller amount of money as a down payment - enough to get the project started.

Once the project is partially built, Congress could review it and decide whether to continue funding.

It seems that Trump is being extremely dishonest about what his "Wall" would be - he's insisting on a payment in full, in advance because he knows that as soon as the project gets started - and Congress finds out what this "wall" is, they'll want it stopped.

Starting a huge construction project with an small down payment is typical in the construction industry - and Trump knows it.

Getting 100% up front is unheard of - only a con man would insist on a 100% payment up front!

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

All you slimy little communist shit twinkle-toed coxksuckers are making buttfucking excuses for not negotiating.

Trump is your motherfuckkng DADDY.

He has owned each and every last one of you.

You don't deserve to live after being owned by this orange clown.

.

 

[Flopper]

In todays address Trump said:

"the plan includes $5.7 billion for a strategic deployment of physical barriers, or a wall. This is not a 2,000 mile concrete structure from sea to sea. These are steel barriers in high priority locations."

So how about if the Dems agree to give around $800mil this year for "steel barriers in high priority locations."

That should be a good start. If they're placed at the highest priority locations, it should have a measureable effect on illegal immigration. If so, Congress can continue additional funding in subsequent years.

I believe that Trump would never agree to this. He wants his $5.7bil to build a 2000 miles monument to himself. He couldn't care less about illegal immigration.

Hadrian had his wall, now Trump wants one.

If he's genuine about stopping immigration. he'd accept $800mil to get "steel barriers in high priority locations" as a start.

There's a reason he insists on $5.7bil.

Proves you didn't actually listen to what he said, the 5.7 is for 230 miles in priority locations, identified by the border patrol. 5.7 billion wouldn't even be a good down payment on 1,954 miles.

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The 2019 Homeland Security Budget Request for enhancing border security and provide for the wall was 5.7 billion a year for 10 years to be used for building new border barriers, enhancing and improvement of fencing, construction of access roads, security fences, providing monitoring technology, building addition detention facilities, and hiring addition boarder patrol. The 5.7 billion is only a down payment on a 50 billion dollar project. What is not clear is whether the project would cover the entire border of just a 1000 miles.

 

[Flopper]

In todays address Trump said:

"the plan includes $5.7 billion for a strategic deployment of physical barriers, or a wall. This is not a 2,000 mile concrete structure from sea to sea. These are steel barriers in high priority locations."

So how about if the Dems agree to give around $800mil this year for "steel barriers in high priority locations."

That should be a good start. If they're placed at the highest priority locations, it should have a measureable effect on illegal immigration. If so, Congress can continue additional funding in subsequent years.

I believe that Trump would never agree to this. He wants his $5.7bil to build a 2000 miles monument to himself. He couldn't care less about illegal immigration.

Hadrian had his wall, now Trump wants one.

If he's genuine about stopping immigration. he'd accept $800mil to get "steel barriers in high priority locations" as a start.

There's a reason he insists on $5.7bil.

He had a offer a while ago for $25 billion in exchange for a permanent fix for the DACA kids and he turned it down.

He really has no idea what he's doing.

I can't find any details about that offer and of course the devil is in details. That 25 billion may have been over a number of years or maybe it wasn't discussed at that level.

This project is likely to last only as long as Trump is president. Democrats would reallocate the funds in a heartbeat and most republicans were never very supportive of the project.

 

[Crepitus]

In todays address Trump said:

"the plan includes $5.7 billion for a strategic deployment of physical barriers, or a wall. This is not a 2,000 mile concrete structure from sea to sea. These are steel barriers in high priority locations."

So how about if the Dems agree to give around $800mil this year for "steel barriers in high priority locations."

That should be a good start. If they're placed at the highest priority locations, it should have a measureable effect on illegal immigration. If so, Congress can continue additional funding in subsequent years.

I believe that Trump would never agree to this. He wants his $5.7bil to build a 2000 miles monument to himself. He couldn't care less about illegal immigration.

Hadrian had his wall, now Trump wants one.

If he's genuine about stopping immigration. he'd accept $800mil to get "steel barriers in high priority locations" as a start.

There's a reason he insists on $5.7bil.

He had a offer a while ago for $25 billion in exchange for a permanent fix for the DACA kids and he turned it down.

He really has no idea what he's doing.

I can't find any details about that offer and of course the devil is in details. That 25 billion may have been over a number of years or maybe it wasn't discussed at that level.

This project is likely to last only as long as Trump is president. Democrats would reallocate the funds in a heartbeat and most republicans were never very supportive of the project.

Over 10 years.

The immigration deal Trump should've taken, but didn't

 

[Flopper]

In todays address Trump said:

"the plan includes $5.7 billion for a strategic deployment of physical barriers, or a wall. This is not a 2,000 mile concrete structure from sea to sea. These are steel barriers in high priority locations."

So how about if the Dems agree to give around $800mil this year for "steel barriers in high priority locations."

That should be a good start. If they're placed at the highest priority locations, it should have a measureable effect on illegal immigration. If so, Congress can continue additional funding in subsequent years.

I believe that Trump would never agree to this. He wants his $5.7bil to build a 2000 miles monument to himself. He couldn't care less about illegal immigration.

Hadrian had his wall, now Trump wants one.

If he's genuine about stopping immigration. he'd accept $800mil to get "steel barriers in high priority locations" as a start.

There's a reason he insists on $5.7bil.

He had a offer a while ago for $25 billion in exchange for a permanent fix for the DACA kids and he turned it down.

He really has no idea what he's doing.

I can't find any details about that offer and of course the devil is in details. That 25 billion may have been over a number of years or maybe it wasn't discussed at that level.

This project is likely to last only as long as Trump is president. Democrats would reallocate the funds in a heartbeat and most republicans were never very supportive of the project.

Over 10 years.

The immigration deal Trump should've taken, but didn't

He would need twice that amount of money. However that assumes that he remain president for at least another 10 years which is probably part of his plan once he abolishes congress.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Trump's definition of the Wall keeps changing.....

Yet the $5.7bil figure does not.

IF he meant what he 's said (which would be a first), he'd be happy to take a smaller amount of money as a down payment - enough to get the project started.

Once the project is partially built, Congress could review it and decide whether to continue funding.

It seems that Trump is being extremely dishonest about what his "Wall" would be - he's insisting on a payment in full, in advance because he knows that as soon as the project gets started - and Congress finds out what this "wall" is, they'll want it stopped.

Starting a huge construction project with an small down payment is typical in the construction industry - and Trump knows it.

Getting 100% up front is unheard of - only a con man would insist on a 100% payment up front!

/-----/ "IF he meant what he 's said (which would be a first),"
TDS

• Nearly 3 million jobs have been created since President Trump took office.

• 304,000 manufacturing jobs have been created since President Trump took office, and manufacturing employment stands at its highest level since December 2008.

• 337,000 construction jobs have been created since President Trump took office, and construction employment stands at its highest level since June 2008.

• Under President Trump, the unemployment rate has dropped to 3.8, the lowest rate since April 2000, and job openings have reached 6.6 million, the highest level recorded.

• 67 percent of Americans believe now is a good time to find a quality job, according to Gallup.

• Only under President Trump have more than 50 percent of Americans believed it is a good time to find a quality job since Gallup began asking the question 17 years ago.

• President Trump prioritized job training and workforce development to empower workers to seize more opportunities, signing an Executive Order to expand apprenticeship opportunities.

• President Trump has restored confidence in the American economy, with confidence among both consumers and businesses reaching historic highs.

• Consumer confidence in current conditions has reached a 17-year high, according to the Conference Board.

• Optimism among manufacturers has hit record highs under President Trump, according to the National Association of Manufacturers.

• Small business optimism has sustained record-high levels under President Trump according to the National Federation of Independent Business.

• President Trump signed the historic Tax Cuts and Jobs Act into law, cutting taxes for American families and making American business more competitive.

• American families received $3.2 trillion in gross tax cuts and saw the child tax credit double.

• The top corporate tax rate was lowered from 35 percent to 21 percent so American businesses could be more competitive.

• President Trump has rolled back unnecessary job-killing regulations beyond expectations.

• In 2017, President Trump far exceeded his promise to eliminate regulations at a two-to-one ratio, issuing 22 deregulatory actions for every new regulatory action.

• The Administration rolled back rules and regulations harming farmers and energy producers, such as the Waters of the United States Rule and the Clean Power Plan.

• Regional and community banks and credit unions got relief after President Trump signed legislation reducing harmful requirements imposed by the Dodd-Frank Act.

• Since taking office, President Trump has advanced free, fair, and reciprocal trade deals that protect American workers, ending decades of destructive trade policies.

• Days after taking office, the President withdrew the United States from the Trans-Pacific Partnership negotiations and agreement.

• President Trump’s Administration is working to defend American intellectual property from China’s unfair practices through a range of actions.

• The President improved the KORUS trade agreement with the Republic of Korea, which will allow more U.S. automobile exports to South Korea with lower tariffs and increase U.S. pharmaceutical access to South Korea.

• American agriculture has gained access to new markets under President Trump.

 

[OKTexas]

In todays address Trump said:

"the plan includes $5.7 billion for a strategic deployment of physical barriers, or a wall. This is not a 2,000 mile concrete structure from sea to sea. These are steel barriers in high priority locations."

So how about if the Dems agree to give around $800mil this year for "steel barriers in high priority locations."

That should be a good start. If they're placed at the highest priority locations, it should have a measureable effect on illegal immigration. If so, Congress can continue additional funding in subsequent years.

I believe that Trump would never agree to this. He wants his $5.7bil to build a 2000 miles monument to himself. He couldn't care less about illegal immigration.

Hadrian had his wall, now Trump wants one.

If he's genuine about stopping immigration. he'd accept $800mil to get "steel barriers in high priority locations" as a start.

There's a reason he insists on $5.7bil.

Proves you didn't actually listen to what he said, the 5.7 is for 230 miles in priority locations, identified by the border patrol. 5.7 billion wouldn't even be a good down payment on 1,954 miles.

.

The 2019 Homeland Security Budget Request for enhancing border security and provide for the wall was 5.7 billion a year for 10 years to be used for building new border barriers, enhancing and improvement of fencing, construction of access roads, security fences, providing monitoring technology, building addition detention facilities, and hiring addition boarder patrol. The 5.7 billion is only a down payment on a 50 billion dollar project. What is not clear is whether the project would cover the entire border of just a 1000 miles.

Yeah, it's an all of the above approach, what's the problem?

.

 

[kyzr]

The dems keep saying "open the government then we'll negotiate". Trump is not stupid, that won't happen. If the dems really wanted to negotiate they would have been doing so during the past month. Since the dems are not serious, we'll keep playing keep away with the Budget and the Fed workers suffer. Heartless Nancy will have blood on her hands if any Fed worker diabetics die from lack of insulin, which is expensive.

 

[Lesh]

"the plan includes $5.7 billion for a strategic deployment of physical barriers, or a wall. This is not a 2,000 mile concrete structure from sea to sea. These are steel barriers in high priority locations."

In other words he wants border security.

He's been OFFERED money for that.

1.6 billion. He got 1.2 billion last year and only spent 10% of THAT.

What exactly does he want this blank check for?

How did he arrive at that figure?

It's a bullshit number he pulled out of his ass...and he shut down the government over it

 

[edward37]

"the plan includes $5.7 billion for a strategic deployment of physical barriers, or a wall. This is not a 2,000 mile concrete structure from sea to sea. These are steel barriers in high priority locations."

In other words he wants border security.

He's been OFFERED money for that.

1.6 billion. He got 1.2 billion last year and only spent 10% of THAT.

What exactly does he want this blank check for?

How did he arrive at that figure?

It's a bullshit number he pulled out of his ass...and he shut down the government over it

That's how he ran his businesses as a civilian He did say he was going to run gov't like he ran his business

 

[edward37]

The dems keep saying "open the government then we'll negotiate". Trump is not stupid, that won't happen. If the dems really wanted to negotiate they would have been doing so during the past month. Since the dems are not serious, we'll keep playing keep away with the Budget and the Fed workers suffer. Heartless Nancy will have blood on her hands if any Fed worker diabetics die from lack of insulin, which is expensive.

And IF there was a gov't emergency why didn't the moron shut gov't down 2 months ago ? one month ? This is a republican bullshit blackmail attempt

 

[Flopper]

Trump's definition of the Wall keeps changing.....

Yet the $5.7bil figure does not.

IF he meant what he 's said (which would be a first), he'd be happy to take a smaller amount of money as a down payment - enough to get the project started.

Once the project is partially built, Congress could review it and decide whether to continue funding.

It seems that Trump is being extremely dishonest about what his "Wall" would be - he's insisting on a payment in full, in advance because he knows that as soon as the project gets started - and Congress finds out what this "wall" is, they'll want it stopped.

Starting a huge construction project with an small down payment is typical in the construction industry - and Trump knows it.

Getting 100% up front is unheard of - only a con man would insist on a 100% payment up front!

/-----/ "IF he meant what he 's said (which would be a first),"
TDS

• Nearly 3 million jobs have been created since President Trump took office.

• 304,000 manufacturing jobs have been created since President Trump took office, and manufacturing employment stands at its highest level since December 2008.

• 337,000 construction jobs have been created since President Trump took office, and construction employment stands at its highest level since June 2008.

• Under President Trump, the unemployment rate has dropped to 3.8, the lowest rate since April 2000, and job openings have reached 6.6 million, the highest level recorded.

• 67 percent of Americans believe now is a good time to find a quality job, according to Gallup.

• Only under President Trump have more than 50 percent of Americans believed it is a good time to find a quality job since Gallup began asking the question 17 years ago.

• President Trump prioritized job training and workforce development to empower workers to seize more opportunities, signing an Executive Order to expand apprenticeship opportunities.

• President Trump has restored confidence in the American economy, with confidence among both consumers and businesses reaching historic highs.

• Consumer confidence in current conditions has reached a 17-year high, according to the Conference Board.

• Optimism among manufacturers has hit record highs under President Trump, according to the National Association of Manufacturers.

• Small business optimism has sustained record-high levels under President Trump according to the National Federation of Independent Business.

• President Trump signed the historic Tax Cuts and Jobs Act into law, cutting taxes for American families and making American business more competitive.

• American families received $3.2 trillion in gross tax cuts and saw the child tax credit double.

• The top corporate tax rate was lowered from 35 percent to 21 percent so American businesses could be more competitive.

• President Trump has rolled back unnecessary job-killing regulations beyond expectations.

• In 2017, President Trump far exceeded his promise to eliminate regulations at a two-to-one ratio, issuing 22 deregulatory actions for every new regulatory action.

• The Administration rolled back rules and regulations harming farmers and energy producers, such as the Waters of the United States Rule and the Clean Power Plan.

• Regional and community banks and credit unions got relief after President Trump signed legislation reducing harmful requirements imposed by the Dodd-Frank Act.

• Since taking office, President Trump has advanced free, fair, and reciprocal trade deals that protect American workers, ending decades of destructive trade policies.

• Days after taking office, the President withdrew the United States from the Trans-Pacific Partnership negotiations and agreement.

• President Trump’s Administration is working to defend American intellectual property from China’s unfair practices through a range of actions.

• The President improved the KORUS trade agreement with the Republic of Korea, which will allow more U.S. automobile exports to South Korea with lower tariffs and increase U.S. pharmaceutical access to South Korea.

• American agriculture has gained access to new markets under President Trump.

Most of the improvements in the economy under Trump came in his first year office. Falling unemployment which began months before he took office continued through his first year and a tax cut sent the stock market through the roof. 2018 was a different story. The market lost 4.7%, the worst year since 2008 and unemployment saw little improvement.

 

[kyzr]

"the plan includes $5.7 billion for a strategic deployment of physical barriers, or a wall. This is not a 2,000 mile concrete structure from sea to sea. These are steel barriers in high priority locations."

In other words he wants border security.

He's been OFFERED money for that.

1.6 billion. He got 1.2 billion last year and only spent 10% of THAT.

What exactly does he want this blank check for?

How did he arrive at that figure?

It's a bullshit number he pulled out of his ass...and he shut down the government over it

DHS came up with that $5.7b number, they are the border experts and know what works and what's needed. Who do you call the dems' experts? No one? So take DHS' advise.
Nancy says she "rejects Kirsten's facts", but doesn't present any alternative "facts"; that would make her look really stupid. Maybe she'll get more TIA episodes and we can resolve the shutdown?