Trump, the GOP and 2018

[Synthaholic]

Here's one fact on which (hopefully, who knows) we can all agree: As of this writing, the 2018 elections are a little less than 18 months away.

If you are a GOP congressperson and you think Trump is now irreparably damaged (or worse) -- I know, talk radio won't entertain that possibility, but you have your comfy congressional job to save -- wouldn't it be better to just get this over with, and try to (a) stop the bleeding and (b) try to regain some party momentum for 2018 by dumping the guy?

The numbers say Trump can't be impeached, but that's only if the GOP hangs together. I think we all know a professional politician's first priority is not the country or their constituents, it's re-election.

Isn't it just time to get this over with and try to regain your 2016 mojo before the 2018 elections?
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Under what grounds would you impeach him? It would fracture the party further I think because it would drag out, get very ugly and might not have the desired outcome.

It is too early to impeach

Incompetence is not grounds for impeachment. It's not like it was a blow job or something
Trump needs to be given more rope. Given the time, Trump will provide legitimate grounds for impeachment

He has already crossed the impeachment line. The quicker the better.

Trump can't be impeached yet.......he will pull a Reagan
I don't remember, I don't really know Flynn, I never said anything to the Russians and if I did, I can say what I want

Flynn and Manifort will take the fall.......but will they rat out Trump?

Yes on both of them, plus Carter Page.

 

[Synthaholic]

And Hillary did not get the majority of the popular vote

That's demonstrably false, Baghdad Bob.

 

[rightwinger]

In 2016....Republicans had promises

Kill Obamacare, indict Hillary, balance the budget, tax reform, the wall, jobs, jobs, jobs

In 2018 when they have to show what they have accomplished....the voters will ask...What Happened?
Fool me once....

You said "scandals". Discussing the accomplishments of the GOP or lack there of is not "Scandals".


You know damn well that your side will NOT focus on issues, because that leads to questions about your policies for comparison.

What you will do is continue to lie and gin up bullshit scandals, as loud as you can as often as you can to destroy Trump's image so that no one even LOOKS at the issues.

It is actually, both

Individual congressmen have been screaming for ten years about what they would accomplish if elected. If only Republicans were in charge, we would balance the budget, reduce the debt, repeal and replace Obamacare with something better, build a wall, bring back manufacturing jobs........Well, now they are in charge

Scandals are a different thing. Look what happened to Repblicans after Nixon resigned. Scandal paints with a broad brush. Republicans elected Trump......they will pay the price if he crashes and burns

But your side, by it's actions shows that you don't WANT to focus on issues. That you WANT to make the conversation about bullshit that you just scream about over and over.


Talking about issue now, might get attention on them and get changes though Congress.


You wouldn't want THAT.

Hence the constant stream of manufactured scandal and outrage.


How is that One Party State looking to you now?

Democrats have every intention of talking about issues. They have been gearing up for this healthcare fight for eight years

OK Republicans.......You claim you have a better plan? Why does it cover 24 million fewer people? why does it cost more? Why doesn't it cover pre- existing conditions?

Make the Republicans answer to the people. They have been afraid to do it at town halls

obozocare did not insure 100% of americans. The ones paying for it are paying higher premiums, higher deductibles, and getting worse coverage. Its great if you get it free, but for those paying, it sucks.

The GOP plan is still a work in progress. But anything would be better than obozocare.

Trump is right, the best thing for him politically would be to let obozocare self destruct. But he cares too much about the working americans to do that.

All republicans need to do is come up with a better plan. So far they haven't come close

 

[JoeB131]

The Dems are going to get slaughtered in 2018.

They have no ideas.

They already were told by The NSA, CIA, FBI, Director of National Intelligence and The Treasury Department that there is Zero Evidence of Russian Collusion.

They still persist in promoting the False Narrative they KNOW IS FALSE.

Now they are going to have their noses rubbed in it by a highly respected, impartial no nonsense Independent Special Council, and many of The Dem Operatives loyal to Obama and Clinton who engaged in all of this Felonious Behavior are going to go down and never get up again.

yes, I am sure that Robert Mueller is going to totally want to exonerate the guy who humiliated and fired his friend and protege.

The fact is, if there was nothing to this Russia thing, Trump never would have fired Comey.

 

[dannyboys]

The results of the investigations will be realised a couple of months before the 08 primaries. The results will 100% exonerate Trump and his campaign staff from any 'collusion' with the russians.
Take this to the bank.
Then the fucking REP rats who abandoned the SS Trump will be pleading to come back aboard.
BUT there will be other loyal Trump REPs who will run against the REP rats and WIN!

 

[rightwinger]

The results of the investigations will be realised a couple of months before the 08 primaries. The results will 100% exonerate Trump and his campaign staff from any 'collusion' with the russians.
Take this to the bank.
Then the fucking REP rats who abandoned the SS Trump will be pleading to come back aboard.
BUT there will be other loyal Trump REPs who will run against the REP rats and WIN!

We can only hope that is what happens

In the mean time we need a thorough investigation
Trumps presidency depends on it

 

[JoeB131]

My fear since the day he was elected was that he would screw up (or be PERCEIVED to screw up, your choice) so quickly and so badly that the Democratic party would have no need to go through its badly needed Reformation, and that his failure would usher the Regressive Left right into power.

Right now, so far, that's how it's playing out, so I'm pretty freakin' horrified by the whole thing.

You see, your premise would make sense if there was actually a need for Democrats to be "Republican Lite". The reality is, if anything, Hillary was that, which is why so many Democrats supported Bernie and then Jill Stein. If the Stein voters had showed up and voted for democrats, Hillary would be president right now. (And Ironically, the GOP probably would get stronger because she'd be paying the price in the midterms.)

Instead, Trump is going to fuck this all up pretty badly, and a lot of the dumb white trash who voted for him are going to vote for the Democrats no matter who they put up in 2018 and 2020.

Here's the thing... idealogy doesn't matter to most people. Results do.

If Trump is impeached and Pence keeps us out of wars and recessions, he'll get re-elected. If he doesn't, he won't. It's really that simple.

Until such time as Whites shrink as a percentage to the point where the GOP playing to their racial fears won't matter all that much.

 

[Correll]

The results of the investigations will be realised a couple of months before the 08 primaries. The results will 100% exonerate Trump and his campaign staff from any 'collusion' with the russians.
Take this to the bank.
Then the fucking REP rats who abandoned the SS Trump will be pleading to come back aboard.
BUT there will be other loyal Trump REPs who will run against the REP rats and WIN!

We can only hope that is what happens

In the mean time we need a thorough investigation
Trumps presidency depends on it

You want to sabotage Trump.

As he is the only threat to your dream of a ONe Party State.

Please stop your lying.

 

[rightwinger]

The results of the investigations will be realised a couple of months before the 08 primaries. The results will 100% exonerate Trump and his campaign staff from any 'collusion' with the russians.
Take this to the bank.
Then the fucking REP rats who abandoned the SS Trump will be pleading to come back aboard.
BUT there will be other loyal Trump REPs who will run against the REP rats and WIN!

We can only hope that is what happens

In the mean time we need a thorough investigation
Trumps presidency depends on it

You want to sabotage Trump.

As he is the only threat to your dream of a ONe Party State.

Please stop your lying.

Don't you realize Republicans have a one party state?

 

[Correll]

The results of the investigations will be realised a couple of months before the 08 primaries. The results will 100% exonerate Trump and his campaign staff from any 'collusion' with the russians.
Take this to the bank.
Then the fucking REP rats who abandoned the SS Trump will be pleading to come back aboard.
BUT there will be other loyal Trump REPs who will run against the REP rats and WIN!

We can only hope that is what happens

In the mean time we need a thorough investigation
Trumps presidency depends on it

You want to sabotage Trump.

As he is the only threat to your dream of a ONe Party State.

Please stop your lying.

Don't you realize Republicans have a one party state?

Please support your absurdly stupid claim, or admit that you are a dishonest troll.

 

[Ima Cat]

Here's one fact on which (hopefully, who knows) we can all agree: As of this writing, the 2018 elections are a little less than 18 months away.

If you are a GOP congressperson and you think Trump is now irreparably damaged (or worse) -- I know, talk radio won't entertain that possibility, but you have your comfy congressional job to save -- wouldn't it be better to just get this over with, and try to (a) stop the bleeding and (b) try to regain some party momentum for 2018 by dumping the guy?

The numbers say Trump can't be impeached, but that's only if the GOP hangs together. I think we all know a professional politician's first priority is not the country or their constituents, it's re-election.

Isn't it just time to get this over with and try to regain your 2016 mojo before the 2018 elections?
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The stupid are easily led, easily brainwashed. They'll vote against their own interests, not able to fathom what their interests are or recoginize when they've been screwed over, as in losing health care coverage. They are lemmings-- bleating sheep--and above all monkey-see, monkey-do cowards who'll follow other stupid people over yon cliff.

 

[rightwinger]

The results of the investigations will be realised a couple of months before the 08 primaries. The results will 100% exonerate Trump and his campaign staff from any 'collusion' with the russians.
Take this to the bank.
Then the fucking REP rats who abandoned the SS Trump will be pleading to come back aboard.
BUT there will be other loyal Trump REPs who will run against the REP rats and WIN!

We can only hope that is what happens

In the mean time we need a thorough investigation
Trumps presidency depends on it

You want to sabotage Trump.

As he is the only threat to your dream of a ONe Party State.

Please stop your lying.

Don't you realize Republicans have a one party state?

Please support your absurdly stupid claim, or admit that you are a dishonest troll.

Republicans have a one party state

Why won't you do anything about it

 

[Correll]

The results of the investigations will be realised a couple of months before the 08 primaries. The results will 100% exonerate Trump and his campaign staff from any 'collusion' with the russians.
Take this to the bank.
Then the fucking REP rats who abandoned the SS Trump will be pleading to come back aboard.
BUT there will be other loyal Trump REPs who will run against the REP rats and WIN!

We can only hope that is what happens

In the mean time we need a thorough investigation
Trumps presidency depends on it

You want to sabotage Trump.

As he is the only threat to your dream of a ONe Party State.

Please stop your lying.

Don't you realize Republicans have a one party state?

Please support your absurdly stupid claim, or admit that you are a dishonest troll.

Republicans have a one party state

Why won't you do anything about it

I asked you to support your absurdly stupid claim.

All you did was repeat it.


What is going on with you? YOu used to be capable of real debate.

Are you slowly coming to grips with the fact that your One Party Utopia will in fact be a Dystopia based on oppression and violence?

 

[Correll]

Here's one fact on which (hopefully, who knows) we can all agree: As of this writing, the 2018 elections are a little less than 18 months away.

If you are a GOP congressperson and you think Trump is now irreparably damaged (or worse) -- I know, talk radio won't entertain that possibility, but you have your comfy congressional job to save -- wouldn't it be better to just get this over with, and try to (a) stop the bleeding and (b) try to regain some party momentum for 2018 by dumping the guy?

The numbers say Trump can't be impeached, but that's only if the GOP hangs together. I think we all know a professional politician's first priority is not the country or their constituents, it's re-election.

Isn't it just time to get this over with and try to regain your 2016 mojo before the 2018 elections?
.

The stupid are easily led, easily brainwashed. They'll vote against their own interests, not able to fathom what their interests are or recoginize when they've been screwed over, as in losing health care coverage. They are lemmings-- bleating sheep--and above all monkey-see, monkey-do cowards who'll follow other stupid people over yon cliff.

Intelligence is no defense against propaganda. There are plenty of intelligent people who vote against their own best interests.

Such as Jews or Gay liberals supporting large scale Muslim immigration.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Here's one fact on which (hopefully, who knows) we can all agree: As of this writing, the 2018 elections are a little less than 18 months away.

If you are a GOP congressperson and you think Trump is now irreparably damaged (or worse) -- I know, talk radio won't entertain that possibility, but you have your comfy congressional job to save -- wouldn't it be better to just get this over with, and try to (a) stop the bleeding and (b) try to regain some party momentum for 2018 by dumping the guy?

The numbers say Trump can't be impeached, but that's only if the GOP hangs together. I think we all know a professional politician's first priority is not the country or their constituents, it's re-election.

Isn't it just time to get this over with and try to regain your 2016 mojo before the 2018 elections?
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Under what grounds would you impeach him? It would fracture the party further I think because it would drag out, get very ugly and might not have the desired outcome.

Well, that's really the question. Given the fact that these people just care about their own re-election, would they go after to him to save their butts?
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Republicans would throw their own mothers under the bus to get reelected. These are the same people who have promised the religious right that they will overturn abortion since Reagan ran for President, and then forgotten all about it once they get elected.

Why do you even say that?/you know your wrong..



Nixion resigned, Newt resigned...


Bill held onto power at all cost.


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[rightwinger]

We can only hope that is what happens

In the mean time we need a thorough investigation
Trumps presidency depends on it

You want to sabotage Trump.

As he is the only threat to your dream of a ONe Party State.

Please stop your lying.

Don't you realize Republicans have a one party state?

Please support your absurdly stupid claim, or admit that you are a dishonest troll.

Republicans have a one party state

Why won't you do anything about it

I asked you to support your absurdly stupid claim.

All you did was repeat it.


What is going on with you? YOu used to be capable of real debate.

Are you slowly coming to grips with the fact that your One Party Utopia will in fact be a Dystopia based on oppression and violence?

If. You don't support a one party state
Why do you vote republican

 

[RASTAMEN]

The results of the investigations will be realised a couple of months before the 08 primaries. The results will 100% exonerate Trump and his campaign staff from any 'collusion' with the russians.
Take this to the bank.
Then the fucking REP rats who abandoned the SS Trump will be pleading to come back aboard.
BUT there will be other loyal Trump REPs who will run against the REP rats and WIN!

The Trump supporters who make up 33 percent of the GOP electorate continue to believe in "STRONG AND WRONG".

 

[Correll]

You want to sabotage Trump.

As he is the only threat to your dream of a ONe Party State.

Please stop your lying.

Don't you realize Republicans have a one party state?

Please support your absurdly stupid claim, or admit that you are a dishonest troll.

Republicans have a one party state

Why won't you do anything about it

I asked you to support your absurdly stupid claim.

All you did was repeat it.


What is going on with you? YOu used to be capable of real debate.

Are you slowly coming to grips with the fact that your One Party Utopia will in fact be a Dystopia based on oppression and violence?

If. You don't support a one party state
Why do you vote republican

I asked you to support your absurdly stupid claim.

All you did was repeat it.


What is going on with you? YOu used to be capable of real debate.

Are you slowly coming to grips with the fact that your One Party Utopia will in fact be a Dystopia based on oppression and violence?

 

[Redfish]

You said "scandals". Discussing the accomplishments of the GOP or lack there of is not "Scandals".


You know damn well that your side will NOT focus on issues, because that leads to questions about your policies for comparison.

What you will do is continue to lie and gin up bullshit scandals, as loud as you can as often as you can to destroy Trump's image so that no one even LOOKS at the issues.

It is actually, both

Individual congressmen have been screaming for ten years about what they would accomplish if elected. If only Republicans were in charge, we would balance the budget, reduce the debt, repeal and replace Obamacare with something better, build a wall, bring back manufacturing jobs........Well, now they are in charge

Scandals are a different thing. Look what happened to Repblicans after Nixon resigned. Scandal paints with a broad brush. Republicans elected Trump......they will pay the price if he crashes and burns

But your side, by it's actions shows that you don't WANT to focus on issues. That you WANT to make the conversation about bullshit that you just scream about over and over.


Talking about issue now, might get attention on them and get changes though Congress.


You wouldn't want THAT.

Hence the constant stream of manufactured scandal and outrage.


How is that One Party State looking to you now?

Democrats have every intention of talking about issues. They have been gearing up for this healthcare fight for eight years

OK Republicans.......You claim you have a better plan? Why does it cover 24 million fewer people? why does it cost more? Why doesn't it cover pre- existing conditions?

Make the Republicans answer to the people. They have been afraid to do it at town halls

obozocare did not insure 100% of americans. The ones paying for it are paying higher premiums, higher deductibles, and getting worse coverage. Its great if you get it free, but for those paying, it sucks.

The GOP plan is still a work in progress. But anything would be better than obozocare.

Trump is right, the best thing for him politically would be to let obozocare self destruct. But he cares too much about the working americans to do that.

All republicans need to do is come up with a better plan. So far they haven't come close

complete repeal would be a better plan. What we had before obozocare was much better than ACA.

The new plan will be better, rest assured. They are taking too long to get it done, on that we agree.

 

[Redfish]

The results of the investigations will be realised a couple of months before the 08 primaries. The results will 100% exonerate Trump and his campaign staff from any 'collusion' with the russians.
Take this to the bank.
Then the fucking REP rats who abandoned the SS Trump will be pleading to come back aboard.
BUT there will be other loyal Trump REPs who will run against the REP rats and WIN!

We can only hope that is what happens

In the mean time we need a thorough investigation
Trumps presidency depends on it

You want to sabotage Trump.

As he is the only threat to your dream of a ONe Party State.

Please stop your lying.

Don't you realize Republicans have a one party state?

how can you work with a party whose only goal is to destroy you? How can Trump work with partisan morons like Schumer, Pelosi, Waters, and Franken? Those dems don't give a shit about doing whats best for the country, its all about power and control and keeping the money flowing to their personal bank accounts.