Trump, the GOP and 2018

You said "scandals". Discussing the accomplishments of the GOP or lack there of is not "Scandals".


You know damn well that your side will NOT focus on issues, because that leads to questions about your policies for comparison.

What you will do is continue to lie and gin up bullshit scandals, as loud as you can as often as you can to destroy Trump's image so that no one even LOOKS at the issues.
It is actually, both

Individual congressmen have been screaming for ten years about what they would accomplish if elected. If only Republicans were in charge, we would balance the budget, reduce the debt, repeal and replace Obamacare with something better, build a wall, bring back manufacturing jobs........Well, now they are in charge

Scandals are a different thing. Look what happened to Repblicans after Nixon resigned. Scandal paints with a broad brush. Republicans elected Trump......they will pay the price if he crashes and burns


But your side, by it's actions shows that you don't WANT to focus on issues. That you WANT to make the conversation about bullshit that you just scream about over and over.


Talking about issue now, might get attention on them and get changes though Congress.


You wouldn't want THAT.

Hence the constant stream of manufactured scandal and outrage.


How is that One Party State looking to you now?
Democrats have every intention of talking about issues. They have been gearing up for this healthcare fight for eight years

OK Republicans.......You claim you have a better plan? Why does it cover 24 million fewer people? why does it cost more? Why doesn't it cover pre- existing conditions?

Make the Republicans answer to the people. They have been afraid to do it at town halls


obozocare did not insure 100% of americans. The ones paying for it are paying higher premiums, higher deductibles, and getting worse coverage. Its great if you get it free, but for those paying, it sucks.

The GOP plan is still a work in progress. But anything would be better than obozocare.

Trump is right, the best thing for him politically would be to let obozocare self destruct. But he cares too much about the working americans to do that.

Obamacare now is more popular than Trump. The Republican plan is a disaster in the making as it is even more unpopular than Obamacare was originally. People want Obamacare fixed.


no its not. that's another fake poll from fake news. The people want healthcare and medical insurance fixed, they know that obamacare was a massive failure and a fraud whose only goal was socialized medicine where some marginally literate GS 7 sitting in DC will decide if you are worth getting a knee or hip replacement or cancer treatment.
 
Don't you realize Republicans have a one party state?


how can you work with a party whose only goal is to destroy you? How can Trump work with partisan morons like Schumer, Pelosi, Waters, and Franken? Those dems don't give a shit about doing whats best for the country, its all about power and control and keeping the money flowing to their personal bank accounts.
If Trump was a good leader he would learn to COMPROMISE!!!!!!


who was it that said "we won, republicans have to move to the back of the bus" ?

How can Trump compromise with a party that refuses to even discuss compromise?

Sadly, the days of Reagan and O'Neill making deals over a couple glasses of bourbon are no more. Even Bubba Clinton and Newt worked together for the good of the country. Where are Schumer and Pelosi? Hurling hate speech and stirring up the violent left. Do you consider the actions at Berkley to be an effort at compromise? Is blocking free speech a form of compromise? Is destroying public and private property the sane way to find solutions?
Trump has compromised with Putin!!!!


all US intelligence agencies disagree with you, you are delusional.
Proof? Ya gotta a link to back up the lie you just posted????
 
It is actually, both

Individual congressmen have been screaming for ten years about what they would accomplish if elected. If only Republicans were in charge, we would balance the budget, reduce the debt, repeal and replace Obamacare with something better, build a wall, bring back manufacturing jobs........Well, now they are in charge

Scandals are a different thing. Look what happened to Repblicans after Nixon resigned. Scandal paints with a broad brush. Republicans elected Trump......they will pay the price if he crashes and burns


But your side, by it's actions shows that you don't WANT to focus on issues. That you WANT to make the conversation about bullshit that you just scream about over and over.


Talking about issue now, might get attention on them and get changes though Congress.


You wouldn't want THAT.

Hence the constant stream of manufactured scandal and outrage.


How is that One Party State looking to you now?
Democrats have every intention of talking about issues. They have been gearing up for this healthcare fight for eight years

OK Republicans.......You claim you have a better plan? Why does it cover 24 million fewer people? why does it cost more? Why doesn't it cover pre- existing conditions?

Make the Republicans answer to the people. They have been afraid to do it at town halls


obozocare did not insure 100% of americans. The ones paying for it are paying higher premiums, higher deductibles, and getting worse coverage. Its great if you get it free, but for those paying, it sucks.

The GOP plan is still a work in progress. But anything would be better than obozocare.

Trump is right, the best thing for him politically would be to let obozocare self destruct. But he cares too much about the working americans to do that.

Obamacare now is more popular than Trump. The Republican plan is a disaster in the making as it is even more unpopular than Obamacare was originally. People want Obamacare fixed.


no its not. that's another fake poll from fake news. The people want healthcare and medical insurance fixed, they know that obamacare was a massive failure and a fraud whose only goal was socialized medicine where some marginally literate GS 7 sitting in DC will decide if you are worth getting a knee or hip replacement or cancer treatment.
 
The results of the investigations will be realised a couple of months before the 08 primaries. The results will 100% exonerate Trump and his campaign staff from any 'collusion' with the russians.
Take this to the bank.
Then the fucking REP rats who abandoned the SS Trump will be pleading to come back aboard.
BUT there will be other loyal Trump REPs who will run against the REP rats and WIN!
We can only hope that is what happens

In the mean time we need a thorough investigation
Trumps presidency depends on it


did you demand a thorough investigation of Benghazi, the Clinton foundation, the Iran nuke deal, the Russian uranium deal, Obama's ties to radical muslim organizations?

the double standard here is laughable.
Benghazi witch hunt went on for 3 or 4 years!!!! Trumps Russia investigation has just begun. Sit in you easy chair, pop some popcorn and enjoy. Trumps conserva-fuck voters must endure this at least until Trump RESIGNS!!!


Clinton, Obama, Rice, and the entire Obama regime lied to the American public about Benghazi. Four americans died as a direct result of the inaction of Clinton and Obama.

Trump is not going to resign, he has done nothing to merit impeachment. Your pipe dream will vaporize like the pot smoke circling your tiny head.
Trump will resign do to the fact he's mentally unstable and the job as President is too much for an unhealthty 70 year old fat white guy who doesn't exercise and eats fast food!!!! Trump will chose resignation rather than be IMPEACHED!!!! But if he doesn't resign, then he will get IMPEACHED.
 
Here's one fact on which (hopefully, who knows) we can all agree: As of this writing, the 2018 elections are a little less than 18 months away.

If you are a GOP congressperson and you think Trump is now irreparably damaged (or worse) -- I know, talk radio won't entertain that possibility, but you have your comfy congressional job to save -- wouldn't it be better to just get this over with, and try to (a) stop the bleeding and (b) try to regain some party momentum for 2018 by dumping the guy?

The numbers say Trump can't be impeached, but that's only if the GOP hangs together. I think we all know a professional politician's first priority is not the country or their constituents, it's re-election.

Isn't it just time to get this over with and try to regain your 2016 mojo before the 2018 elections?
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/---- I love how the losing party tells the winning party what they need to do to keep winning.
 
The results of the investigations will be realised a couple of months before the 08 primaries. The results will 100% exonerate Trump and his campaign staff from any 'collusion' with the russians.
Take this to the bank.
Then the fucking REP rats who abandoned the SS Trump will be pleading to come back aboard.
BUT there will be other loyal Trump REPs who will run against the REP rats and WIN!
We can only hope that is what happens

In the mean time we need a thorough investigation
Trumps presidency depends on it


You want to sabotage Trump.

As he is the only threat to your dream of a ONe Party State.

Please stop your lying.
Don't you realize Republicans have a one party state?
Yeah, but that's different...somehow.


thanks daveman!
 
The results of the investigations will be realised a couple of months before the 08 primaries. The results will 100% exonerate Trump and his campaign staff from any 'collusion' with the russians.
Take this to the bank.
Then the fucking REP rats who abandoned the SS Trump will be pleading to come back aboard.
BUT there will be other loyal Trump REPs who will run against the REP rats and WIN!
We can only hope that is what happens

In the mean time we need a thorough investigation
Trumps presidency depends on it


You want to sabotage Trump.

As he is the only threat to your dream of a ONe Party State.

Please stop your lying.
Don't you realize Republicans have a one party state?


Please support your absurdly stupid claim, or admit that you are a dishonest troll.
WTF? Republicans control the White House, House, Senate, SCOTUS, and most of the governorships and state legislative bodies in the country.

How fucking stupid are you? Serious question.
 
It is actually, both

Individual congressmen have been screaming for ten years about what they would accomplish if elected. If only Republicans were in charge, we would balance the budget, reduce the debt, repeal and replace Obamacare with something better, build a wall, bring back manufacturing jobs........Well, now they are in charge

Scandals are a different thing. Look what happened to Repblicans after Nixon resigned. Scandal paints with a broad brush. Republicans elected Trump......they will pay the price if he crashes and burns


But your side, by it's actions shows that you don't WANT to focus on issues. That you WANT to make the conversation about bullshit that you just scream about over and over.


Talking about issue now, might get attention on them and get changes though Congress.


You wouldn't want THAT.

Hence the constant stream of manufactured scandal and outrage.


How is that One Party State looking to you now?
Democrats have every intention of talking about issues. They have been gearing up for this healthcare fight for eight years

OK Republicans.......You claim you have a better plan? Why does it cover 24 million fewer people? why does it cost more? Why doesn't it cover pre- existing conditions?

Make the Republicans answer to the people. They have been afraid to do it at town halls


obozocare did not insure 100% of americans. The ones paying for it are paying higher premiums, higher deductibles, and getting worse coverage. Its great if you get it free, but for those paying, it sucks.

The GOP plan is still a work in progress. But anything would be better than obozocare.

Trump is right, the best thing for him politically would be to let obozocare self destruct. But he cares too much about the working americans to do that.
All republicans need to do is come up with a better plan. So far they haven't come close


complete repeal would be a better plan. What we had before obozocare was much better than ACA.

The new plan will be better, rest assured. They are taking too long to get it done, on that we agree.
Emergency rooms is not a healthcare plan
Neither is being denied coverage because of pre existing conditions
 
If the GOP loses a third of it's support, then they never win again.

And the Establishment should be thinking about how to dig itself out of the hole they dug by trying to steal the primary from Trump, not to mention a significant portion of them siding with FUCKING HILLARY.

Instead of digging it deeper.


You really want people like RW and Guno to have uncontested control over this country? Because we you are suggesting is how we get there, FAST.
My fear since the day he was elected was that he would screw up (or be PERCEIVED to screw up, your choice) so quickly and so badly that the Democratic party would have no need to go through its badly needed Reformation, and that his failure would usher the Regressive Left right into power.

Right now, so far, that's how it's playing out, so I'm pretty freakin' horrified by the whole thing.
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The Regressive Left is all that there is other than Trump. We saw that when the Establishment GOP tried to steal the primary from Trump and half wanted Hillary to win.
I'm not sure what you're saying. Trump horrifies & embarrasses me pretty much daily. Would you say I'm a Regressive Leftist?
.


I'm saying that if Trump fails, no one else will be able to challenge the lock on power the Regressive Left has for generations.


Trumps supporters'? What used to be called Middle America will be unrepresented in national policy and will have NO legal or political recourse to address their grievances for generations.

When Middle America gets behind a monster like Trump they deserve to be shut out. I don't see sexual harassment as a Middle America value. I don't see personal insults as Middle America values. The fact is that there were any number of candidates they could have turned to.


1. Trump is not a monster. YOu are a lying asshole.

2. Your pretense that you don't understand the English word "let" is rejected. YOu are a lying asshole.

3. Lefties like yourself don't get to complain about sexual harassment, see Bill Clinton.

4. Your complain about "personal insults" while your side has been engaging in the politics of personal destruction for generations on an industrial scale is dismissed as idiocy.

5. If Trump fails this is the permanent marginalization of Middle America, and the effective end of American democracy. What follows in on you and yours, asshole.
 
The results of the investigations will be realised a couple of months before the 08 primaries. The results will 100% exonerate Trump and his campaign staff from any 'collusion' with the russians.
Take this to the bank.
Then the fucking REP rats who abandoned the SS Trump will be pleading to come back aboard.
BUT there will be other loyal Trump REPs who will run against the REP rats and WIN!
We can only hope that is what happens

In the mean time we need a thorough investigation
Trumps presidency depends on it


did you demand a thorough investigation of Benghazi, the Clinton foundation, the Iran nuke deal, the Russian uranium deal, Obama's ties to radical muslim organizations?

the double standard here is laughable.
Benghazi witch hunt went on for 3 or 4 years!!!! Trumps Russia investigation has just begun. Sit in you easy chair, pop some popcorn and enjoy. Trumps conserva-fuck voters must endure this at least until Trump RESIGNS!!!


Clinton, Obama, Rice, and the entire Obama regime lied to the American public about Benghazi. Four americans died as a direct result of the inaction of Clinton and Obama.

Trump is not going to resign, he has done nothing to merit impeachment. Your pipe dream will vaporize like the pot smoke circling your tiny head.
Trump will resign do to the fact he's mentally unstable and the job as President is too much for an unhealthty 70 year old fat white guy who doesn't exercise and eats fast food!!!! Trump will chose resignation rather than be IMPEACHED!!!! But if he doesn't resign, then he will get IMPEACHED.


Wishing hard does not work. Magic is not real. Get over yourself.
 
The results of the investigations will be realised a couple of months before the 08 primaries. The results will 100% exonerate Trump and his campaign staff from any 'collusion' with the russians.
Take this to the bank.
Then the fucking REP rats who abandoned the SS Trump will be pleading to come back aboard.
BUT there will be other loyal Trump REPs who will run against the REP rats and WIN!
We can only hope that is what happens

In the mean time we need a thorough investigation
Trumps presidency depends on it


You want to sabotage Trump.

As he is the only threat to your dream of a ONe Party State.

Please stop your lying.
Don't you realize Republicans have a one party state?


Please support your absurdly stupid claim, or admit that you are a dishonest troll.
WTF? Republicans control the White House, House, Senate, SCOTUS, and most of the governorships and state legislative bodies in the country.

How fucking stupid are you? Serious question.

Rw is not stupid enough to think that one party sweeping one election is the an ONe Party State.

If that is what he is suggesting, he is lying.


FYI, moron.

One-party state - Wikipedia



"A one-party state, single-party state, one-party system, single-party system or one-party democracy is a type of state in which one political party has the right to form the government, usually based on the existing constitution. All other parties are either outlawed or allowed to take only a limited and controlled participation in elections. Sometimes the term de facto one-party state is used to describe a dominant-party system that, unlike the one-party state, allows (at least nominally) democratic multiparty elections, but the existing practices or balance of political power effectively prevent the opposition from winning the elections."
 
We can only hope that is what happens

In the mean time we need a thorough investigation
Trumps presidency depends on it


You want to sabotage Trump.

As he is the only threat to your dream of a ONe Party State.

Please stop your lying.
Don't you realize Republicans have a one party state?


Please support your absurdly stupid claim, or admit that you are a dishonest troll.
WTF? Republicans control the White House, House, Senate, SCOTUS, and most of the governorships and state legislative bodies in the country.

How fucking stupid are you? Serious question.

Rw is not stupid enough to think that one party sweeping one election is the an ONe Party State.

If that is what he is suggesting, he is lying.


FYI, moron.

One-party state - Wikipedia



"A one-party state, single-party state, one-party system, single-party system or one-party democracy is a type of state in which one political party has the right to form the government, usually based on the existing constitution. All other parties are either outlawed or allowed to take only a limited and controlled participation in elections. Sometimes the term de facto one-party state is used to describe a dominant-party system that, unlike the one-party state, allows (at least nominally) democratic multiparty elections, but the existing practices or balance of political power effectively prevent the opposition from winning the elections."
You seem to miss the point

If the VOTERS elect one party over another, it is not a one party state
They still have a choice........just because the choose one party over another does not create a one party state
 
You want to sabotage Trump.

As he is the only threat to your dream of a ONe Party State.

Please stop your lying.
Don't you realize Republicans have a one party state?


Please support your absurdly stupid claim, or admit that you are a dishonest troll.
WTF? Republicans control the White House, House, Senate, SCOTUS, and most of the governorships and state legislative bodies in the country.

How fucking stupid are you? Serious question.

Rw is not stupid enough to think that one party sweeping one election is the an ONe Party State.

If that is what he is suggesting, he is lying.


FYI, moron.

One-party state - Wikipedia



"A one-party state, single-party state, one-party system, single-party system or one-party democracy is a type of state in which one political party has the right to form the government, usually based on the existing constitution. All other parties are either outlawed or allowed to take only a limited and controlled participation in elections. Sometimes the term de facto one-party state is used to describe a dominant-party system that, unlike the one-party state, allows (at least nominally) democratic multiparty elections, but the existing practices or balance of political power effectively prevent the opposition from winning the elections."
You seem to miss the point

If the VOTERS elect one party over another, it is not a one party state
They still have a choice........just because the choose one party over another does not create a one party state



So, wtf are you talking about claiming that the Republicans have a one party state?
 
Don't you realize Republicans have a one party state?


Please support your absurdly stupid claim, or admit that you are a dishonest troll.
WTF? Republicans control the White House, House, Senate, SCOTUS, and most of the governorships and state legislative bodies in the country.

How fucking stupid are you? Serious question.

Rw is not stupid enough to think that one party sweeping one election is the an ONe Party State.

If that is what he is suggesting, he is lying.


FYI, moron.

One-party state - Wikipedia



"A one-party state, single-party state, one-party system, single-party system or one-party democracy is a type of state in which one political party has the right to form the government, usually based on the existing constitution. All other parties are either outlawed or allowed to take only a limited and controlled participation in elections. Sometimes the term de facto one-party state is used to describe a dominant-party system that, unlike the one-party state, allows (at least nominally) democratic multiparty elections, but the existing practices or balance of political power effectively prevent the opposition from winning the elections."
You seem to miss the point

If the VOTERS elect one party over another, it is not a one party state
They still have a choice........just because the choose one party over another does not create a one party state



So, wtf are you talking about claiming that the Republicans have a one party state?
I said, of the two
Republicans are the closest

I also expect that they will waste their dominance and so enrage the public, the Democrats will take power
 
But your side, by it's actions shows that you don't WANT to focus on issues. That you WANT to make the conversation about bullshit that you just scream about over and over.


Talking about issue now, might get attention on them and get changes though Congress.


You wouldn't want THAT.

Hence the constant stream of manufactured scandal and outrage.


How is that One Party State looking to you now?
Democrats have every intention of talking about issues. They have been gearing up for this healthcare fight for eight years

OK Republicans.......You claim you have a better plan? Why does it cover 24 million fewer people? why does it cost more? Why doesn't it cover pre- existing conditions?

Make the Republicans answer to the people. They have been afraid to do it at town halls


obozocare did not insure 100% of americans. The ones paying for it are paying higher premiums, higher deductibles, and getting worse coverage. Its great if you get it free, but for those paying, it sucks.

The GOP plan is still a work in progress. But anything would be better than obozocare.

Trump is right, the best thing for him politically would be to let obozocare self destruct. But he cares too much about the working americans to do that.
All republicans need to do is come up with a better plan. So far they haven't come close


complete repeal would be a better plan. What we had before obozocare was much better than ACA.

The new plan will be better, rest assured. They are taking too long to get it done, on that we agree.
Emergency rooms is not a healthcare plan
Neither is being denied coverage because of pre existing conditions


no one ever said they were. However, uninsured never meant untreated in the USA.

There were two good things in ACA that should be retained:
1. insurance companies must take people with pre-existing conditions
2. there should be no lifetime maximum payouts under a policy

The rest of ACA is socialist bullshit and must be scrapped.
 
Please support your absurdly stupid claim, or admit that you are a dishonest troll.
WTF? Republicans control the White House, House, Senate, SCOTUS, and most of the governorships and state legislative bodies in the country.

How fucking stupid are you? Serious question.

Rw is not stupid enough to think that one party sweeping one election is the an ONe Party State.

If that is what he is suggesting, he is lying.


FYI, moron.

One-party state - Wikipedia



"A one-party state, single-party state, one-party system, single-party system or one-party democracy is a type of state in which one political party has the right to form the government, usually based on the existing constitution. All other parties are either outlawed or allowed to take only a limited and controlled participation in elections. Sometimes the term de facto one-party state is used to describe a dominant-party system that, unlike the one-party state, allows (at least nominally) democratic multiparty elections, but the existing practices or balance of political power effectively prevent the opposition from winning the elections."
You seem to miss the point

If the VOTERS elect one party over another, it is not a one party state
They still have a choice........just because the choose one party over another does not create a one party state



So, wtf are you talking about claiming that the Republicans have a one party state?
I said, of the two
Republicans are the closest

I also expect that they will waste their dominance and so enrage the public, the Democrats will take power


Yet, despite Trump voters giving the GOP all branches of government, they are unable to get their agenda enacted, due to resistance from the media, and the deep state. extra government power centers.

It seems that despite how the election when, we still don't get our way...

So, who is it that has a lock on power, with the other side restricted to limited, eve pretend participation?
 
WTF? Republicans control the White House, House, Senate, SCOTUS, and most of the governorships and state legislative bodies in the country.

How fucking stupid are you? Serious question.

Rw is not stupid enough to think that one party sweeping one election is the an ONe Party State.

If that is what he is suggesting, he is lying.


FYI, moron.

One-party state - Wikipedia



"A one-party state, single-party state, one-party system, single-party system or one-party democracy is a type of state in which one political party has the right to form the government, usually based on the existing constitution. All other parties are either outlawed or allowed to take only a limited and controlled participation in elections. Sometimes the term de facto one-party state is used to describe a dominant-party system that, unlike the one-party state, allows (at least nominally) democratic multiparty elections, but the existing practices or balance of political power effectively prevent the opposition from winning the elections."
You seem to miss the point

If the VOTERS elect one party over another, it is not a one party state
They still have a choice........just because the choose one party over another does not create a one party state



So, wtf are you talking about claiming that the Republicans have a one party state?
I said, of the two
Republicans are the closest

I also expect that they will waste their dominance and so enrage the public, the Democrats will take power


Yet, despite Trump voters giving the GOP all branches of government, they are unable to get their agenda enacted, due to resistance from the media, and the deep state. extra government power centers.

It seems that despite how the election when, we still don't get our way...

So, who is it that has a lock on power, with the other side restricted to limited, eve pretend participation?


well said, and what's really disturbing is that the libs seem happy with the media and unknown hidden power brokers controlling our country.

I guess ignorance is bliss.
 
Democrats have every intention of talking about issues. They have been gearing up for this healthcare fight for eight years

OK Republicans.......You claim you have a better plan? Why does it cover 24 million fewer people? why does it cost more? Why doesn't it cover pre- existing conditions?

Make the Republicans answer to the people. They have been afraid to do it at town halls


obozocare did not insure 100% of americans. The ones paying for it are paying higher premiums, higher deductibles, and getting worse coverage. Its great if you get it free, but for those paying, it sucks.

The GOP plan is still a work in progress. But anything would be better than obozocare.

Trump is right, the best thing for him politically would be to let obozocare self destruct. But he cares too much about the working americans to do that.
All republicans need to do is come up with a better plan. So far they haven't come close


complete repeal would be a better plan. What we had before obozocare was much better than ACA.

The new plan will be better, rest assured. They are taking too long to get it done, on that we agree.
Emergency rooms is not a healthcare plan
Neither is being denied coverage because of pre existing conditions


no one ever said they were. However, uninsured never meant untreated in the USA.

There were two good things in ACA that should be retained:
1. insurance companies must take people with pre-existing conditions
2. there should be no lifetime maximum payouts under a policy

The rest of ACA is socialist bullshit and must be scrapped.

Agree

But how do you get insurance companies to cover pre existing conditions without requiring mandatory coverage?
 

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