Trump is right, US Muslims did celebrate 9-11

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Trump is right, US Muslims did celebrate 9-11"

Trump is wrong – and the idiotic thread premise is a proven lie.

 

[Roudy]

Seriously? You are being delusional. And so is anyone who thinks Muslims, American or not, weren't celebrating on 9-11.

You are foolishly deflecting, Roudy. You have been caught. Admit it, then scurry away.

Yes Trump said it.

Why are you, a Jew, supporting a brown shirt like Trump. That's filthy.

I find that funny especially since you are a Jew who supports the new democrat party which embraces antisemitism and stabbing Israel in the back as it's platform.

 

[Roudy]

The Washington Post reported on September 18, 2001–one week after the 9/11 Islamic terror attacks, that the law enforcement officers were investigating people in Muslim enclaves of Jersey City, New Jersey who were seen the day of the attacks celebrating and holding rooftop parties to watch the aftermath of the attack on the Twin Towers unfold across the Hudson River in New York City. One of the Post’s reporters later stated his sources were eyewitnesses and Jersey City police officers.

The issue of Muslims in New Jersey celebrating the attacks was raised recently by leading Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump.

Excerpt from the Washington Post:

“The FBI investigation into the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon has led agents back to a familiar area: northern New Jersey.

“It was there, in Jersey City, just across the Hudson River from Manhattan, that a Muslim cell plotted the 1993 bombing of the twin towers and sought to destroy other New York landmarks as part of an urban guerrilla war against the United States.

“It is believed that 13 of those detained by federal authorities for questioning in its probe into the worst terrorist act in U.S. history are from northeastern New Jersey, some from the same Journal Square area where suspects in the 1993 bombing lived.

…”In October 1995, Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman, an Egyptian cleric who delivered fiery sermons at a run-down mosque in Jersey City, was convicted of directing the conspiracy to blow up the United Nations, an FBI building, and three bridges and tunnels linking New York and New Jersey. He was also convicted of being part of a plot to kill Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak. Sayyid Nosair of Jersey City and Cliffside Park was also charged in the 1990 killing of Rabbi Meir Kahane in Manhattan. The Kahane murder was the beginning of a series of militant acts by the Muslim cell that was encouraged by Abdel-Rahman, the group’s spiritual leader.”

…”Jersey City, an urban enclave of 240,055 people that is home to one of the largest Arab populations among U.S. cities…”

…”In Jersey City, within hours of two jetliners’ plowing into the World Trade Center, law enforcement authorities detained and questioned a number of people who were allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops while they watched the devastation on the other side of the river.”

H/t Powerline

John Hindraker at Powerline reported the Post article earlier Sunday and added that one of the reporters on the story, Serge F. Kovaleski, had informed a researcher, Irfan Khawaja, who was looking into whether Muslims in northern New Jersey had celebrated the 9/11 attacks that his sources for the report on Jersey City were Jersey City police officers.

Then there is this follow-up from Irfan Khawaja in July 2004:

In an email to me on Dec. 16, 2003, Kovaleski indicated that his information had come from the Jersey City Police Department, and that he had confirmed the JCPD’s information via interviews of eyewitnesses of the celebration.

I don’t think Trump saw anyone celebrating in Jersey City on television, but I could be wrong about that. In any event, NPR, the New York Times and the Associated Press are simply wrong when they tell their audiences that there is no evidence of Muslims in America celebrating on September 11, and no contemporaneous news stories to that effect.

Why does this happen? Are NPR, the Times and the AP incapable of using Google? Perhaps. But here is another possibility: note that the Times and the AP coyly limited their denials to news accounts of “mass cheering” or “mass celebrations” in Jersey City. I think they found the Washington Post story but preferred not to mention it. Instead, they deceived their readers by silently making the implicit judgment that “a number of people” are not a “mass.”

I think that these news outlets are so hysterically eager to discredit any concerns about Islam that they won’t let something as minor as the facts get in their way. There is dishonesty here, but it is on the part of NPR, the New York Times and the Associated Press, not Donald Trump.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Seriously? You are being delusional. And so is anyone who thinks Muslims, American or not, weren't celebrating on 9-11.

You are foolishly deflecting, Roudy. You have been caught. Admit it, then scurry away.

Yes Trump said it.

Why are you, a Jew, supporting a brown shirt like Trump. That's filthy.

That's an interesting observation.

It's a remarkable phenomenon where in some cases the oppressed become the oppressors.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Seriously? You are being delusional. And so is anyone who thinks Muslims, American or not, weren't celebrating on 9-11.

You are foolishly deflecting, Roudy. You have been caught. Admit it, then scurry away.

Yes Trump said it.

Why are you, a Jew, supporting a brown shirt like Trump. That's filthy.

I find that funny especially since you are a Jew who supports the new democrat party which embraces antisemitism and stabbing Israel in the back as it's platform.

You humor is ill. I am not Jewish, not by birth not by adoption. You are a Jew who supports a brown shirt.

 

[Roudy]

Seriously? You are being delusional. And so is anyone who thinks Muslims, American or not, weren't celebrating on 9-11.

You are foolishly deflecting, Roudy. You have been caught. Admit it, then scurry away.

Yes Trump said it.

Why are you, a Jew, supporting a brown shirt like Trump. That's filthy.

That's an interesting observation.

It's a remarkable phenomenon where in some cases the oppressed become the oppressors.

You guys keep putting all your eggs in the Hillary basket, she a criminal who lied to the American people and wiped out the evidence on her computer. Trump is smelling like roses compared to someone like her which will just give us more of disaster that Obama has brought us.

 

[Roudy]

Seriously? You are being delusional. And so is anyone who thinks Muslims, American or not, weren't celebrating on 9-11.

You are foolishly deflecting, Roudy. You have been caught. Admit it, then scurry away.

Yes Trump said it.

Why are you, a Jew, supporting a brown shirt like Trump. That's filthy.

I find that funny especially since you are a Jew who supports the new democrat party which embraces antisemitism and stabbing Israel in the back as it's platform.

You humor is ill. I am not Jewish, not by birth not by adoption. You are a Jew who supports a brown shirt.

That makes it even worse, that you try to put yourself in the shoes of Jews.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Seriously? You are being delusional. And so is anyone who thinks Muslims, American or not, weren't celebrating on 9-11.

You are foolishly deflecting, Roudy. You have been caught. Admit it, then scurry away.

Yes Trump said it.

Why are you, a Jew, supporting a brown shirt like Trump. That's filthy.

I find that funny especially since you are a Jew who supports the new democrat party which embraces antisemitism and stabbing Israel in the back as it's platform.

You humor is ill. I am not Jewish, not by birth not by adoption. You are a Jew who supports a brown shirt.

That makes it even worse, that you try to put yourself in the shoes of Jews.

It's even better, because I am correcting a foolish brown shirt Jew like you.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Trump is bad, as bad as HRC. That's why we need Rubio or Kasich.

 

[Roudy]

Seriously? You are being delusional. And so is anyone who thinks Muslims, American or not, weren't celebrating on 9-11.

You are foolishly deflecting, Roudy. You have been caught. Admit it, then scurry away.

Yes Trump said it.

Why are you, a Jew, supporting a brown shirt like Trump. That's filthy.

I find that funny especially since you are a Jew who supports the new democrat party which embraces antisemitism and stabbing Israel in the back as it's platform.

You humor is ill. I am not Jewish, not by birth not by adoption. You are a Jew who supports a brown shirt.

That makes it even worse, that you try to put yourself in the shoes of Jews.

It's even better, because I am correcting a foolish brown shirt Jew like you.

You don't need to correct me, I have enough life experience including with Muslims to know that regardless of their nationality, 9-11 became a Muslim holiday of celebrations.

 

[JakeStarkey]

It's even better, because I am correcting a foolish brown shirt Jew like you.

You don't need to correct me, I have enough life experience including with Muslims to know that regardless of their nationality, 9-11 became a Muslim holiday of celebrations.

That is not the point. The point is that you a Jew defended the lie of a brown shirt presidential candidate. That is filth.

 

[edthecynic]

In Jersey City, within hours of two jetliners' plowing into the World Trade Center, law enforcement authorities detained and questioned a number of people who were allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops while they watched the devastation on the other side of the river.

Same lie, different liar.
It was 5 ISRAELIS who were arrested for celebrating and dancing in Jersey City on 9/11, 2001, NOT Arabs!!!

 

[edthecynic]

Didn't the entire Muslim world erupt in celebrations over 9-11? I don't understand why people even doubt it, when we have US Muslims TODAY that are calling Islamic terrorists "freedom fighters". Here is part of Trump's evidence:

LOL- the radical Islams- calling for Muslims to recognize "Obama as the enemy he is"

LOL, you missed the part that they were celebrating 9-11 I guess. And you called them "radical Islams", not only grammatically incorrect, but a term which the dumbocrats refuse to utter. Ha ha ha.

And you missed the part that it was after the Fort Hood shooting which was Nov 5, 2009 and they condemned Obama who was not president on 9/11, 2001 and the clip was recorded in NY City not Jersey City.

 

[Roudy]

It's even better, because I am correcting a foolish brown shirt Jew like you.

You don't need to correct me, I have enough life experience including with Muslims to know that regardless of their nationality, 9-11 became a Muslim holiday of celebrations.

That is not the point. The point is that you a Jew defended the lie of a brown shirt presidential candidate. That is filth.

"brown shirt candidate" is merely your definition of him. In reality though, anybody who supports Obama and Hillary is supporting anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism,antisemitism, fascism and socialism.

 

[Roudy]

Didn't the entire Muslim world erupt in celebrations over 9-11? I don't understand why people even doubt it, when we have US Muslims TODAY that are calling Islamic terrorists "freedom fighters". Here is part of Trump's evidence:

LOL- the radical Islams- calling for Muslims to recognize "Obama as the enemy he is"

LOL, you missed the part that they were celebrating 9-11 I guess. And you called them "radical Islams", not only grammatically incorrect, but a term which the dumbocrats refuse to utter. Ha ha ha.

And you missed the part that it was after the Fort Hood shooting which was Nov 5, 2009 and they condemned Obama who was not president on 9/11, 2001 and the clip was recorded in NY City not Jersey City.

All of this is irrelevant if you are willing to be objective and understand that we are talking about a mindset and a culture.

 

[toxicmedia]

It's even better, because I am correcting a foolish brown shirt Jew like you.

You don't need to correct me, I have enough life experience including with Muslims to know that regardless of their nationality, 9-11 became a Muslim holiday of celebrations.

That is not the point. The point is that you a Jew defended the lie of a brown shirt presidential candidate. That is filth.

"brown shirt candidate" is merely your definition of him. In reality though, anybody who supports Obama and Hillary is supporting anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism,antisemitism, fascism and socialism.

Only an uneducated emotionally stunted spaz would support Donald Trump

 

[edthecynic]

Seriously? You are being delusional. And so is anyone who thinks Muslims, American or not, weren't celebrating on 9-11.

I saw Trump and his family celebrating the Towers coming down on 9/11, 2001.
If you don't think he and his family are still celebrating then you are being delusional.

 

[Roudy]

It's even better, because I am correcting a foolish brown shirt Jew like you.

You don't need to correct me, I have enough life experience including with Muslims to know that regardless of their nationality, 9-11 became a Muslim holiday of celebrations.

That is not the point. The point is that you a Jew defended the lie of a brown shirt presidential candidate. That is filth.

"brown shirt candidate" is merely your definition of him. In reality though, anybody who supports Obama and Hillary is supporting anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism,antisemitism, fascism and socialism.

Only an uneducated emotionally stunted spaz would support Donald Trump

Funny how that applies more to Obama supporters. The looters, rioters, thugs, criminals, thugs, hate mongerers who blame America, capitalism, and white people for all the problems in the world.

 

[Roudy]

Seriously? You are being delusional. And so is anyone who thinks Muslims, American or not, weren't celebrating on 9-11.

I saw Trump and his family celebrating the Towers coming down on 9/11, 2001.
If you don't think he and his family are still celebrating then you are being delusional.

Maybe he was looking forward to getting the contract for rebuilding it?

 

[IlarMeilyr]

Here is a post from national review:

"Yes, Muslims Were Celebrating In New Jersey As The Twin Towers Fell

Posted on November 23, 2015 11:30 am by Bill Quick

Trump on Muslim Cheers in New Jersey on 9/11: ‘It Did Happen. I Saw It.’ | National Review Online

After more or less calling Trump an outright liar about Muslims in New Jersey cheering the Fall of the Towers, Jim Geraghty gets yanked up short by Powerline:

UPDATE: Powerline points to a line in the September 18 edition of the Washington Post:

In Jersey City, within hours of two jetliners’ plowing into the World Trade Center, law enforcement authorities detained and questioned a number of people who were allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops while they watched the devastation on the other side of the river.

So what is “a number”? Is it close to Trump’s asserted “thousands and thousands”?

These guys crack me up. The point of Trump’s statement was that American Muslims were cheering the jihadi attacks even as thousands were dying across the river from them. And Geraghty is reduced to ignoring that Trump’s main point was one hundred percent accurate, and now wants to quibble over numbers.

No wonder Trump is stomping the Donor Class Establishment’s ass.

Here’s what just happened:

Trump: “Thousands of Muslims were celebrating the Fall of the Towers on 9/11.”

Geraghty: “Gosh, your numbers aren’t accurate. It wasn’t thousands.”


Trump: “You concede that some did, though?”


Geraghty: “Murp. Mumble.” (Teeth grind). “Well, yeah.”


Trump: “I win.”

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Yes, Muslims Were Celebrating In New Jersey As The Twin Towers Fell




To recap: My favorite excerpt:

Geraghty: “Gosh, your numbers aren’t accurate. It wasn’t thousands.”


Trump: “You concede that some did, though?”


Geraghty: “Murp. Mumble.” (Teeth grind). “Well, yeah.”


Trump: “I win.”