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9/10 of your bitching happens with every fucking President dude. Trump is unprecedented, but my fucking gawd man. Its like you guys forget history every fucking time we get someone new in the oval office. ENOUGHOh bullshit. We shouldnt have career politicians. We shouldnt have given the fed govt this much power and we wouldnt have sheep arguing for it!If you are not in a position, why do you need it?
This should be common practice!
Do it to everyone.
No - It's a matter of national security and especially during the first couple of years of a new administration. ENOUGH with this power-hungry authoritarian exacting revenge on his political enemies. Remove that power - If there is cause to revoke fine. The DOJ can make that recommendation.
We have given the president (not just this one) too much power. Trump in particular has abused his. Revoking clearances for vindictive reasons, pardoning criminals (Arpaio) before they're even sentenced and convicted felons {D'Souza), Entering military engagements without congressional approval, executive orders to undo literally everything from a past president he hates - ENOUGH
If you are not in a position, why do you need it?
This should be common practice!
Do it to everyone.
Oh, will you QUIT?Why would he still need it?
Seems like you folks are the ones wanting to change the rules, taking away everyone's security clearance.If you are not in a position, why do you need it?
This should be common practice!
Do it to everyone.
No - It's a matter of national security and especially during the first couple of years of a new administration. ENOUGH with this power-hungry authoritarian exacting revenge on his political enemies. Remove that power - If there is cause to revoke fine. The DOJ can make that recommendation.
Another armchair rulemaker without hope.
I JUST explained it. Read much?Oh, will you QUIT?Why would he still need it?
Why would he still need it?
Obama had a clearance???McMaster talked him out of it. Of COURSE he denies it now.
At the time, some of Trump’s most fervent supporters in the White House saw former Obama Administration officials as powerful enemies who threatened the new President’s rule, and they agitated for punishing them by revoking their security clearances. The idea was rebuffed by the national-security adviser at the time, H. R. McMaster, who signed a memo extending the clearances of his predecessors at the N.S.C., Republicans and Democrats alike.
As Trump stepped up his public and private attacks on Obama, some of the new President’s advisers thought that he should take the extraordinary step of denying Obama himself access to intelligence briefings that were made available to all of his living predecessors. Trump was told about the importance of keeping former Presidents, who frequently met with foreign leaders, informed. In the end, Trump decided not to exclude Obama, at the urging of McMaster.
LoL - I say let him keep going with this and see how it works out for him. Everyone who has EVER said ANYTHING critical of the Mango Menace gets the axe. Let's do 500 of them a day. That will keep him busy for the next 2.4 years (assuming he lasts that long ;-)
John Brennan’s Choice to Confront Trump
I JUST explained it. Read much?Oh, will you QUIT?Why would he still need it?
Why would he still need it?
Why would he still need it?
Indeed. Take Bush's, Clinton's, Bush's, and Carter's as well. If a situation arises wherein Trump wants advice on a particular issue, all he need do is call them.
Intelligence agencies aren't political, or they shouldn't be and I think they mostly aren't, it is just the crazed Trump supporters who are PERCEIVING them as political in order to discredit them.The President shouldnt control the flow of classified information? LolNo one should throw away the accumulated experience of years and years of intelligence gathering, TN. Without access to certain current information, these guys couldn't be consulted. It is the currently employed intelligence people who want them to be available for questions when needed. That should be their call, not mine or yours. Or Trump's.If you are not in a position, why do you need it?
This should be common practice!
Do it to everyone.
They shouldnt be there for years and years! That was my point.
Seems like you folks are the ones wanting to change the rules, taking away everyone's security clearance.If you are not in a position, why do you need it?
This should be common practice!
Do it to everyone.
No - It's a matter of national security and especially during the first couple of years of a new administration. ENOUGH with this power-hungry authoritarian exacting revenge on his political enemies. Remove that power - If there is cause to revoke fine. The DOJ can make that recommendation.
Another armchair rulemaker without hope.
The Intel community falls under the Executive Branch.Intelligence agencies aren't political, or they shouldn't be and I think they mostly aren't, it is just the crazed Trump supporters who are PERCEIVING them as political in order to discredit them.The President shouldnt control the flow of classified information? LolNo one should throw away the accumulated experience of years and years of intelligence gathering, TN. Without access to certain current information, these guys couldn't be consulted. It is the currently employed intelligence people who want them to be available for questions when needed. That should be their call, not mine or yours. Or Trump's.If you are not in a position, why do you need it?
This should be common practice!
Do it to everyone.
They shouldnt be there for years and years! That was my point.
And the President has nothing to do with intelligence gathering, so why would he have anything to do with who has clearance?
Thats because republicans and democrats have the same end goals.Intelligence agencies aren't political, or they shouldn't be and I think they mostly aren't, it is just the crazed Trump supporters who are PERCEIVING them as political in order to discredit them.The President shouldnt control the flow of classified information? LolNo one should throw away the accumulated experience of years and years of intelligence gathering, TN. Without access to certain current information, these guys couldn't be consulted. It is the currently employed intelligence people who want them to be available for questions when needed. That should be their call, not mine or yours. Or Trump's.If you are not in a position, why do you need it?
This should be common practice!
Do it to everyone.
They shouldnt be there for years and years! That was my point.
And the President has nothing to do with intelligence gathering, so why would he have anything to do with who has clearance?
Seems like you folks are the ones wanting to change the rules, taking away everyone's security clearance.If you are not in a position, why do you need it?
This should be common practice!
Do it to everyone.
No - It's a matter of national security and especially during the first couple of years of a new administration. ENOUGH with this power-hungry authoritarian exacting revenge on his political enemies. Remove that power - If there is cause to revoke fine. The DOJ can make that recommendation.
Another armchair rulemaker without hope.
Why would he still need it?
Indeed. Take Bush's, Clinton's, Bush's, and Carter's as well. If a situation arises wherein Trump wants advice on a particular issue, all he need do is call them.
You cannot "call" someone for advice who has been out of the loop for months if not years. Additionally, you Trumptards need to understand what Donald does not. Having security clearance doesn't mean someone can access intel on their computer. It means they would come in - probably to a SCIF - meet with the appropriate people and view the appropriate materials.
Worth a fortune in the private sector numbnuts.No one should throw away the accumulated experience of years and years of intelligence gathering, TN. Without access to certain current information, these guys couldn't be consulted. It is the currently employed intelligence people who want them to be available for questions when needed. That should be their call, not mine or yours. Or Trump's.If you are not in a position, why do you need it?
This should be common practice!
Do it to everyone.
Know what's REALLY funny? Donald claims that security privileges are worth a fortune. What BS. When past officials have been called on for advice, do they send the government a bill? Hell no. They help out because they are patriots. Monetarily it is worth NOTHING.
And with or without it, they are free to state their opinions, go on network news as consultants, make speeches and write books.
Thats because republicans and democrats have the same end goals.Intelligence agencies aren't political, or they shouldn't be and I think they mostly aren't, it is just the crazed Trump supporters who are PERCEIVING them as political in order to discredit them.The President shouldnt control the flow of classified information? LolNo one should throw away the accumulated experience of years and years of intelligence gathering, TN. Without access to certain current information, these guys couldn't be consulted. It is the currently employed intelligence people who want them to be available for questions when needed. That should be their call, not mine or yours. Or Trump's.If you are not in a position, why do you need it?
This should be common practice!
Do it to everyone.
They shouldnt be there for years and years! That was my point.
And the President has nothing to do with intelligence gathering, so why would he have anything to do with who has clearance?
They have the same foreign policy. Blah blah blah.
Thats that same bullshit excuse people throw up about auditing the FED even though the FEDs board is appointed by a goddamn ideologue.
Americans really need to get a damn clue!
Its the PRESIDENT. The Commander and chief of our armed forced.
You dont want an elected person controlling information but want a fucking BUREAUCRAT to do it?
Indeed it does. I didn't say that he doesn't have the authority; he could shut down every single one of the agencies, or "run" the Mueller investigation, if he wished.The Intel community falls under the Executive Branch.Intelligence agencies aren't political, or they shouldn't be and I think they mostly aren't, it is just the crazed Trump supporters who are PERCEIVING them as political in order to discredit them.The President shouldnt control the flow of classified information? LolNo one should throw away the accumulated experience of years and years of intelligence gathering, TN. Without access to certain current information, these guys couldn't be consulted. It is the currently employed intelligence people who want them to be available for questions when needed. That should be their call, not mine or yours. Or Trump's.If you are not in a position, why do you need it?
This should be common practice!
Do it to everyone.
They shouldnt be there for years and years! That was my point.
And the President has nothing to do with intelligence gathering, so why would he have anything to do with who has clearance?
Seems like you folks are the ones wanting to change the rules, taking away everyone's security clearance.If you are not in a position, why do you need it?
This should be common practice!
Do it to everyone.
No - It's a matter of national security and especially during the first couple of years of a new administration. ENOUGH with this power-hungry authoritarian exacting revenge on his political enemies. Remove that power - If there is cause to revoke fine. The DOJ can make that recommendation.
Another armchair rulemaker without hope.
What rule would be changed?
