Trump considered revoking Obama's security clearance

[DrLove]

McMaster talked him out of it. Of COURSE he denies it now.

At the time, some of Trump’s most fervent supporters in the White House saw former Obama Administration officials as powerful enemies who threatened the new President’s rule, and they agitated for punishing them by revoking their security clearances. The idea was rebuffed by the national-security adviser at the time, H. R. McMaster, who signed a memo extending the clearances of his predecessors at the N.S.C., Republicans and Democrats alike.

As Trump stepped up his public and private attacks on Obama, some of the new President’s advisers thought that he should take the extraordinary step of denying Obama himself access to intelligence briefings that were made available to all of his living predecessors. Trump was told about the importance of keeping former Presidents, who frequently met with foreign leaders, informed. In the end, Trump decided not to exclude Obama, at the urging of McMaster.​

LoL - I say let him keep going with this and see how it works out for him. Everyone who has EVER said ANYTHING critical of the Mango Menace gets the axe. Let's do 500 of them a day. That will keep him busy for the next 2.4 years (assuming he lasts that long ;-)

John Brennan’s Choice to Confront Trump

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Why would he still need it?

 

[OldLady]

McMaster talked him out of it. Of COURSE he denies it now.

At the time, some of Trump’s most fervent supporters in the White House saw former Obama Administration officials as powerful enemies who threatened the new President’s rule, and they agitated for punishing them by revoking their security clearances. The idea was rebuffed by the national-security adviser at the time, H. R. McMaster, who signed a memo extending the clearances of his predecessors at the N.S.C., Republicans and Democrats alike.

As Trump stepped up his public and private attacks on Obama, some of the new President’s advisers thought that he should take the extraordinary step of denying Obama himself access to intelligence briefings that were made available to all of his living predecessors. Trump was told about the importance of keeping former Presidents, who frequently met with foreign leaders, informed. In the end, Trump decided not to exclude Obama, at the urging of McMaster.​

LoL - I say let him keep going with this and see how it works out for him. Everyone who has EVER said ANYTHING critical of the Mango Menace gets the axe. Let's do 500 of them a day. That will keep him busy for the next 2.4 years (assuming he lasts that long ;-)

John Brennan’s Choice to Confront Trump

When I read the title of your OP and clicked on it, I really expected to be in the Political Satire section. Imagine my surprise that this was real!

 

[OldLady]

Why would he still need it?

Oh, will you QUIT?

 

[dave p]

McMaster talked him out of it. Of COURSE he denies it now.

At the time, some of Trump’s most fervent supporters in the White House saw former Obama Administration officials as powerful enemies who threatened the new President’s rule, and they agitated for punishing them by revoking their security clearances. The idea was rebuffed by the national-security adviser at the time, H. R. McMaster, who signed a memo extending the clearances of his predecessors at the N.S.C., Republicans and Democrats alike.

As Trump stepped up his public and private attacks on Obama, some of the new President’s advisers thought that he should take the extraordinary step of denying Obama himself access to intelligence briefings that were made available to all of his living predecessors. Trump was told about the importance of keeping former Presidents, who frequently met with foreign leaders, informed. In the end, Trump decided not to exclude Obama, at the urging of McMaster.​

LoL - I say let him keep going with this and see how it works out for him. Everyone who has EVER said ANYTHING critical of the Mango Menace gets the axe. Let's do 500 of them a day. That will keep him busy for the next 2.4 years (assuming he lasts that long ;-)

John Brennan’s Choice to Confront Trump

So it was the advisors, not Trump who wanted to revoke his clearance? seems your title is misleading.

 

[TNHarley]

If you are not in a position, why do you need it?
This should be common practice!
Do it to everyone.

 

[DrLove]

If you are not in a position, why do you need it?
This should be common practice!
Do it to everyone.

No - It's a matter of national security and especially during the first couple of years of a new administration. ENOUGH with this power-hungry authoritarian exacting revenge on his political enemies. Remove that power - If there is cause to revoke fine. The DOJ can make that recommendation.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Why would he still need it?

Indeed. Take Bush's, Clinton's, Bush's, and Carter's as well. If a situation arises wherein Trump wants advice on a particular issue, all he need do is call them.

 

[TNHarley]

If you are not in a position, why do you need it?
This should be common practice!
Do it to everyone.

No - It's a matter of national security and especially during the first couple of years of a new administration. ENOUGH with this power-hungry authoritarian exacting revenge on his political enemies. Remove that power - If there is cause to revoke fine. The DOJ can make that recommendation.

Oh bullshit. We shouldnt have career politicians. We shouldnt have given the fed govt this much power and we wouldnt have sheep arguing for it!

 

[OldLady]

If you are not in a position, why do you need it?
This should be common practice!
Do it to everyone.

No one should throw away the accumulated experience of years and years of intelligence gathering, TN. Without access to certain current information, these guys couldn't be consulted. It is the currently employed intelligence people who want them to be available for questions when needed. That should be their call, not mine or yours. Or Trump's.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

If you are not in a position, why do you need it?
This should be common practice!
Do it to everyone.

No - It's a matter of national security and especially during the first couple of years of a new administration. ENOUGH with this power-hungry authoritarian exacting revenge on his political enemies. Remove that power - If there is cause to revoke fine. The DOJ can make that recommendation.

Another armchair rulemaker without hope.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

If you are not in a position, why do you need it?
This should be common practice!
Do it to everyone.

No one should throw away the accumulated experience of years and years of intelligence gathering, TN. Without access to certain current information, these guys couldn't be consulted. It is the currently employed intelligence people who want them to be available for questions when needed. That should be their call, not mine or yours. Or Trump's.

Nope. It should most definitely NOT be "their call", particularly regarding the Obama administration.

 

[dave p]

If you are not in a position, why do you need it?
This should be common practice!
Do it to everyone.

No - It's a matter of national security and especially during the first couple of years of a new administration. ENOUGH with this power-hungry authoritarian exacting revenge on his political enemies. Remove that power - If there is cause to revoke fine. The DOJ can make that recommendation.

Your post said it was his advisors, not him.

 

[DrLove]

If you are not in a position, why do you need it?
This should be common practice!
Do it to everyone.

No - It's a matter of national security and especially during the first couple of years of a new administration. ENOUGH with this power-hungry authoritarian exacting revenge on his political enemies. Remove that power - If there is cause to revoke fine. The DOJ can make that recommendation.

Oh bullshit. We shouldnt have career politicians. We shouldnt have given the fed govt this much power and we wouldnt have sheep arguing for it!

We have given the president (not just this one) too much power. Trump in particular has abused his. Revoking clearances for vindictive reasons, pardoning criminals (Arpaio) before they're even sentenced and convicted felons {D'Souza), Entering military engagements without congressional approval, executive orders to undo literally everything from a past president he hates - ENOUGH

 

[DrLove]

If you are not in a position, why do you need it?
This should be common practice!
Do it to everyone.

No one should throw away the accumulated experience of years and years of intelligence gathering, TN. Without access to certain current information, these guys couldn't be consulted. It is the currently employed intelligence people who want them to be available for questions when needed. That should be their call, not mine or yours. Or Trump's.

Know what's REALLY funny? Donald claims that security privileges are worth a fortune. What BS. When past officials have been called on for advice, do they send the government a bill? Hell no. They help out because they are patriots. Monetarily it is worth NOTHING.

And with or without it, they are free to state their opinions, go on network news as consultants, make speeches and write books.

 

[frigidweirdo]

McMaster talked him out of it. Of COURSE he denies it now.

At the time, some of Trump’s most fervent supporters in the White House saw former Obama Administration officials as powerful enemies who threatened the new President’s rule, and they agitated for punishing them by revoking their security clearances. The idea was rebuffed by the national-security adviser at the time, H. R. McMaster, who signed a memo extending the clearances of his predecessors at the N.S.C., Republicans and Democrats alike.

As Trump stepped up his public and private attacks on Obama, some of the new President’s advisers thought that he should take the extraordinary step of denying Obama himself access to intelligence briefings that were made available to all of his living predecessors. Trump was told about the importance of keeping former Presidents, who frequently met with foreign leaders, informed. In the end, Trump decided not to exclude Obama, at the urging of McMaster.​

LoL - I say let him keep going with this and see how it works out for him. Everyone who has EVER said ANYTHING critical of the Mango Menace gets the axe. Let's do 500 of them a day. That will keep him busy for the next 2.4 years (assuming he lasts that long ;-)

John Brennan’s Choice to Confront Trump

He sees enemies everywhere, paranoia of the highest grade.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

If you are not in a position, why do you need it?
This should be common practice!
Do it to everyone.

No - It's a matter of national security and especially during the first couple of years of a new administration. ENOUGH with this power-hungry authoritarian exacting revenge on his political enemies. Remove that power - If there is cause to revoke fine. The DOJ can make that recommendation.

Oh bullshit. We shouldnt have career politicians. We shouldnt have given the fed govt this much power and we wouldnt have sheep arguing for it!

We have given the president (not just this one) too much power. Trump in particular has abused his. Revoking clearances for vindictive reasons, pardoning criminals (Arpaio) before they're even sentenced and convicted felons {D'Souza), Entering military engagements without congressional approval, executive orders to undo literally everything from a past president he hates - ENOUGH

Kinda makes you wish YOU were president, eh?

 

[DrLove]

He sees enemies everywhere, paranoia of the highest grade.

Yep - And the paranoia is become more pronounced and more dangerous.
Putin succeeded in putting the living, breathing equivalent of Joe McCarthy in the White House.

 

[DrLove]

Kinda makes you wish YOU were president, eh?

NO

 

[TNHarley]

If you are not in a position, why do you need it?
This should be common practice!
Do it to everyone.

No one should throw away the accumulated experience of years and years of intelligence gathering, TN. Without access to certain current information, these guys couldn't be consulted. It is the currently employed intelligence people who want them to be available for questions when needed. That should be their call, not mine or yours. Or Trump's.

The President shouldnt control the flow of classified information? Lol
They shouldnt be there for years and years! That was my point.