Traditionalist on Campus

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    The secular philosophy is geared toward the removal of the restrictions of religion and morality, to explain the human condition as essentially the same as any other animal species...just more physically 'evolved.'

    Sans the restrictions of space, I would tie same to the assault on religion beginning with the French Revolution, and the Enlightenment...but for a specific focus, consider the 'shock troops' boot camps of secularism, the college campuses.

    In many ways the colleges encourage the breakdown of traditional norms through unisex dorms, rooms, bathrooms, courses, and 'celebrations' of the hook-up lifestyle....
    ...the pretense is that the impetus is "Sexual Health on College Campuses" (Sexual Health on College Campuses)

    ...there has emerged, a bit of push-back:

    1."Sex Week on the Yale campus returns and will have competition this year

    2. Sex Week has returned to the Yale campus.
    The week is billed as a way to promote sexual health though a series of events and workshops.

    3. There will also be sessions about pornography.

    4. This year, Sex Week has competition.

    5. Students with Undergraduates for a Better Yale College have started True Love Week, where they will host educational seminars.

    6. They say it will focus less on casual sex and more on relationships.

    "We came up with the idea this summer when we realized the sheer silence there was on campus from the general hook-up culture," Eduardo Andino said.

    7. True Love Week kicks off on Sunday."
    Sex Week Sparks Debate | NBC Connecticut


    Happy Valentines Day to all.
     
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    How does sex week go against religion? Are they saying the only way to have safe sex is to burn a cross beforehand?

    I would think you would be promoting this if they're actually promoting relationships rather than casual sex.

    It's a student initiated program, just like there's religious programs initiated by students at Yale. No one has to participate, totally voluntary.



    Nothing to see here, unless you want to see faux outrage.
     
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    Yale Christian Fellowship

    Another voluntary group, the Yale Christian Fellowship.

    If i were big on faux outrage, I could do exactly what the OP is doing and pretend this is an example of the college campuses forcing christianity on everyone.

    But I'm not, and that'd be stupid.
     
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    cut and paste is still hugging the left side of the bell curve, i see
     
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    1. Every social practice is the expression of fundamental assumptions about what it means to be human. When a society accepts, endorses, and approves any practice, it implicitly commits itself to the accompanying worldview- even more so if the practice is enshrined in law, which tells us what society considers morally acceptable. One should be very careful of acceptance of worldviews that endorse a low view of human life. The secular view that separates humanity into segments, rather than integrates, does that.

    2. Contemporary views of sexuality enforce the secular division of body and mind. The latest idea is that gender is a social construct, one that is some sort of fiction, or fabrication, and is totally mutable. Judith Butler, “Gender Trouble,” p. 136
    The damage wrought by the feminism movement, the attempts to see no difference in moving from one bed, one partner to another, and the encouragement of same through 'sex week' programs, lowers an individuals' view of themselves.
    Are you subscribing to same for your children?
    You don't have to answer that...it was merely rhetorical.

    a. “At Sarah Lawrence, … designate certain bathrooms as ''all gender.''…Brown and Sarah Lawrence, in Yonkers, will offer housing for the first time this fall to accommodate transgender students. Wesleyan has assigned a hallway for students who choose to live without designating their gender…The Wesleyan campus health services clinic no longer requires students to check off ''M'' or ''F'' On Campus, Rethinking Biology 101 - NYTimes.com

    3. We no longer think of virtue as the classical virtues of wisdom, justice, temperance, and courage, or the Christian ones of faith, hope and charity, or even the Victorian ones of work, thrift, cleanliness, responsibility, self-discipline, perseverance, honesty and self-reliance. Generally, what comes to mind is the sexual connotations of chastity and marital fidelity. When these are destroyed, or even weakened, not only are the others mentioned above damaged, but the vitality of the society is as well.
     
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    No way, really?:lol:
     
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    I was in Athens Ga. last weekend visiting my daughter who is a freshman. You will not find a more liberal university anywhere with all of their diversity this and that, gay and lesbian clubs, feminist clubs, etc. We stayed at The Indigo Hotel right off campus and they made me park my 12 mpg guzzler in the back as I do not drive a Prius or Hybrid. The entire campus is liberal green. My sons all graduated from The University of Georgia also and I have been around Athens most of my 57 years. Another long story.
    Everywhere you go on campus in Athens there are numerous churches, church organizations, prayer groups, religous support services and community help organizations. And they are all appreciated and attended. Most have an open door policy as to who they accept.
    Sure, there is partying, football traditions, students have sex and all forms of rowdy behavior.
    But it is actually a lot better than when I went. Back then the sex was unreal in the early 70s, the dope was all over in the dorms and the groupie line of southern girls behind the practice field fence was 1/4 mile long. No way you would see that now.
    There is NO war on religion at the University of Georgia and most all other universities in America.
     
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    1.) it's a voluntary student initiated group at a school students go to voluntarily. The group is supposedly promoting relationships over casual sex so unless you're on here saying casual sex is better, I'd like to know what your religion is :lol:.

    2.) No they aren't doing that. This group has nothing do with feminism as far as I can tell.

    3.) Again, a voluntary group that's promoting relationships. Sexually educating people gives them wisdom, has nothing to with justice, promoting relationships advocates temperance, has nothing to do with courage, has nothing to do with faith, has nothing to do with hope or charity, has nothing to do with work, has nothing to do with thrift, sex ed helps with cleanliness, promoting relationships and safe sex promotes responsibility as well as self-discipline, choosing relationships over casual sex is perseverance, has nothing to do with honesty or self-reliance, promoting relationships in way shows connotations of marital infidelity.


    I feel like some people just wake up in the morning looking for something to complain about.


    And of course, she ignored my post that pointed out her hypocrisy when i talked about the voluntary christian group at Yale. No surprise there.
     
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    I'm 26, and went to Ohio State University. Lane avenue is essentially "Main Street" for the school with the football stadium and the basketball stadium right on the street. There's at minimum 3 large churches right by both of those venues and they're all allowed to park on the street and the doors are open. In every game I go to there's large christian groups telling us we're going to hell if we don't take their pamphlets essentially.

    Religious views aren't even tempered to the slightest degree at this, one of the largest public universities in the United States.
     
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    1."And of course, she ignored my post that pointed out her hypocrisy when i talked about the voluntary christian group at Yale. No surprise there."
    You're not seriously suggesting that the milieu on college campuses represents a 'christian' viewpoint, are you?
    I didn't think so.


    2. I don't believe that I use the term 'hypocrisy' for opponents...I leave that to those with losing arguments.

    Merely because students aren't dragged to these 'sex weeks' in chains, doesn't obviate the clear instigation toward a hook-up atmosphere.
    The existence of the 'seminars' as well as the passing out of birth control in the medical facilities is a wink-and-a-nod toward certain behaviors...the secular rather than the traditional.

    3. If that is your view of what is good for the individual and for society...I challenge you to state so clearly.
    Well...is it?

    Careful....you may have to use the 'h' word for yourself....
     

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