Toyota Details Six New electric cars Models Launching for 2020–2025

[Missouri_Mike]

Oh, and by the way Happy, you know that 97% of Scientists agree statement you like to tout?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Well, you should look up the study, lol...……..if that is what YOU are banking on, and why YOU believe the nonsense-) I could also add, you would be sooooooo SURPRISED to see who is funding your heroes, but that is for a different thread.

So you like the 97% agree deal, huh? I know you do! Well, there is a whole bunch of sites, that tell you EXACTLY how that conclusion was drawn, and you can look up the zillions besides the one I will post for you.

But, I just want to let YOU know personally------------->you are being led down the primrose path by people who will make a whole lotta money if your side wins, and they don't live in our country, and that is why they fund your stupid groups. It is also why we proclaim that GREEN is the new RED! And if you can't figure that out, then you need a new hobby-)

Climate Change: No, It’s Not a 97 Percent Consensus | [site:name] | National Review

I'm sorry, I'm not going to include the local weatherman or other unqualified people as scientists who actually study the topic.

I didn't ask you too, lol. When you look, you notice that the 97% was based on something like 34 people...……...but I have a feeling you already knew that, since you came back so fast with the answer.

See, even you knew the study was phony-e-baloney. Now, what does that say about the people who come on here and claim the 97%-)

That's neat. I have no idea what you're talking about, I tend to ignore people who can't see the obvious and there is a ton of dubious claims from the anti-science crowd that it is too aggravating to debate the topic.

You'll figure it out, it's probably already too late.

Things like anything more than two genders? That kind?

Considering gender is a social construct not based necessarily on anatomy. I'm sure it bothers you greatly and I enjoy that.

It bothers me when people like you claim to be science worshippers when you can’t even figure out the basics of male and female.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

I didn't ask you too, lol. When you look, you notice that the 97% was based on something like 34 people...……...but I have a feeling you already knew that, since you came back so fast with the answer.

See, even you knew the study was phony-e-baloney. Now, what does that say about the people who come on here and claim the 97%-)

That's neat. I have no idea what you're talking about, I tend to ignore people who can't see the obvious and there is a ton of dubious claims from the anti-science crowd that it is too aggravating to debate the topic.

You'll figure it out, it's probably already too late.

Things like anything more than two genders? That kind?

Considering gender is a social construct not based necessarily on anatomy. I'm sure it bothers you greatly and I enjoy that.

Lol
Only a fucking retard would believe there is any more than two genders, Science denier

You're thinking of sex, not gender. You're welcome.

You’re thinking there’s more than two with either definition. There isn’t .

 

[HappyJoy]

I'm sorry, I'm not going to include the local weatherman or other unqualified people as scientists who actually study the topic.

I didn't ask you too, lol. When you look, you notice that the 97% was based on something like 34 people...……...but I have a feeling you already knew that, since you came back so fast with the answer.

See, even you knew the study was phony-e-baloney. Now, what does that say about the people who come on here and claim the 97%-)

That's neat. I have no idea what you're talking about, I tend to ignore people who can't see the obvious and there is a ton of dubious claims from the anti-science crowd that it is too aggravating to debate the topic.

You'll figure it out, it's probably already too late.

Things like anything more than two genders? That kind?

Considering gender is a social construct not based necessarily on anatomy. I'm sure it bothers you greatly and I enjoy that.

It bothers me when people like you claim to be science worshippers when you can’t even figure out the basics of male and female.

I'm sure it bothers you, it's because you don't understand the term.

Here

Only two sex forms but multiple gender variants: How to explain?

 

[AntonToo]

Electric cars are more about marketing than actually helping to clean up the environment. ....

Said no one who actually drove a Tesla.

 

[Flopper]

Actually, it means more coal-burning power plants and gas-operated generators...

Or more wind turbines (which take more energy to make than they will ever produce)...

After all, you have to get the electricity to recharge them from somewhere!!!

As long as the conversion takes a couple of decades we can do it. Assuming ever vehicle in the US is converted to electric which seems very unlikely, additional power requirements would vary by state from a low of 20% to a high of 55%. Assuming the increase power requirement is met by power plants, greenhouse gases and pollution emissions, should be about 25% of what we currently have.

Since America has left the leadership to other countries, they are setting the time table. China has committed to 2 million electric vehicles a year and a total band on internal combustion engines by 2040. Most European countries including the UK, France and Germany are committed to being off of gasoline as a fuel by 2040. What this means is the demand for electrical vehicles abroad will exceed the demand for gasoline vehicles in the US and elsewhere. So manufactures will be moving away from gas powered vehicles. By 2040, the only gasoline power vehicles sold in the US are going to be large trucks and SUVs. Toyoto, VW, Ford and a number of other manufactures will be introducing many new models, all electric or hybrid between 2020 and 2023.
Is America’s Power Grid Ready for Electric Cars? - CityLab

 

[Dr Grump]

Forget the electric car. The big revolution is going to be the driverless car.

 

[HappyJoy]

Forget the electric car. The big revolution is going to be the driverless car.

What's it going to run on?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Whenever electric cars have a range of a thousand miles and can be plugged in to a 110 for 10 minutes for a full charge, Im in.

 

[Flopper]

The internal combustion engine in our cars is incredibly inefficient. On average it's about 20%. What this means is up to 80% of the energy released by burning gasoline in a car does nothing but heat up the parts of the car. And that requires a cooling system to keep the damn thing from burning up.

And the problem is not just the inefficiency of the engine, it's also the complexity. There are literally hundreds of moving parts which have to be kept cool and lubricated and that doesn't include the transmission or other parts of the drive train. To all this we add pollution control which adds a level of complexity that requires a computer to control the engine and provide diagnostics.

Compare this to an EV, only two moving parts in it's motor. A single speed transmission with no gears. No pollution control system and no cooling system. The drive train has 17 moving parts compared to a typical gas vehicle which has over 300.

You have to wonder with all our technical skills, how did we every end up with this Rub Goldberg contraption.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Actually, it means more coal-burning power plants and gas-operated generators...

Or more wind turbines (which take more energy to make than they will ever produce)...

After all, you have to get the electricity to recharge them from somewhere!!!

faster the better....then build new better Nuclear power plants to support the increase in juice

The Electrical grid can't stand a EMP much less handle 300 million plus electric cars plugged in at night.


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[HappyJoy]

Actually, it means more coal-burning power plants and gas-operated generators...

Or more wind turbines (which take more energy to make than they will ever produce)...

After all, you have to get the electricity to recharge them from somewhere!!!

faster the better....then build new better Nuclear power plants to support the increase in juice

The Electrical grid can't stand a EMP much less handle 300 million plus electric cars plugged in at night.


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It's not happening over night.

Remind me, didn't Trump recently walk out of an infrastructure meeting with the Democrats?

 

[22lcidw]

Actually, it means more coal-burning power plants and gas-operated generators...

Or more wind turbines (which take more energy to make than they will ever produce)...

After all, you have to get the electricity to recharge them from somewhere!!!

faster the better....then build new better Nuclear power plants to support the increase in juice

The Electrical grid can't stand a EMP much less handle 300 million plus electric cars plugged in at night.


.

It's not happening over night.

Remind me, didn't Trump recently walk out of an infrastructure meeting with the Democrats?

Remind me that Obama got near a trillion dollars for infrastructure and not a dollar spent on it. Anyway I would watch someone melt your carcass down and turn you into asphalt and make a street out of you and your family. You stole to much and you will steal more.

 

[HappyJoy]

Actually, it means more coal-burning power plants and gas-operated generators...

Or more wind turbines (which take more energy to make than they will ever produce)...

After all, you have to get the electricity to recharge them from somewhere!!!

faster the better....then build new better Nuclear power plants to support the increase in juice

The Electrical grid can't stand a EMP much less handle 300 million plus electric cars plugged in at night.


.

It's not happening over night.

Remind me, didn't Trump recently walk out of an infrastructure meeting with the Democrats?

Remind me that Obama got near a trillion dollars for infrastructure and not a dollar spent on it. Anyway I would watch someone melt your carcass down and turn you into asphalt and make a street out of you and your family. You stole to much and you will steal more.

Can we really knock it off with the violent rhetoric? It's not necessary and takes away from whatever argument you are trying to make. #bebetter

Plus the GOP blocked the infrastructure bill in 2015.

 

[Flopper]

Whenever electric cars have a range of a thousand miles and can be plugged in to a 110 for 10 minutes for a full charge, Im in.

Over the last 20 years the range of electric cars have increased from 50 miles to over 350 so someday you might just see that. However the decision of whether you buy a gas or electric car in the future is probably going to depend on what manufactures build. Long range plans of the car companies is to build more electric cars and more models and less gas vehicles. It's quite possible that in 20 years, large SUVs and trucks will constitute almost all of the gas vehicle market.

 

[HappyJoy]

Whenever electric cars have a range of a thousand miles and can be plugged in to a 110 for 10 minutes for a full charge, Im in.

Over the last 20 years the range of electric cars have increased from 50 miles to over 350 so someday you might just see that. However the decision of whether you buy a gas or electric car in the future is probably going to depend on what manufactures build. Long range plans of the car companies is to build more electric cars and more models and less gas vehicles. It's quite possible that in 20 years, large SUVs and trucks will constitute almost all of the gas vehicle market.

I'd also add that I don't know of any cars that have a range of 1,000 miles on a single tank of gas.Hate to fill that up on empty.

 

[Obiwan]

Whenever electric cars have a range of a thousand miles and can be plugged in to a 110 for 10 minutes for a full charge, Im in.

Over the last 20 years the range of electric cars have increased from 50 miles to over 350 so someday you might just see that. However the decision of whether you buy a gas or electric car in the future is probably going to depend on what manufactures build. Long range plans of the car companies is to build more electric cars and more models and less gas vehicles. It's quite possible that in 20 years, large SUVs and trucks will constitute almost all of the gas vehicle market.

I'd also add that I don't know of any cars that have a range of 1,000 miles on a single tank of gas.Hate to fill that up on empty.

But need I remind you...

Obozo wasted BILLIONS on failed "renewable energy" schemes...

And who wants a vehicle that goes a certain distance, and has to recharge, instead of filling up???

Wouldn't it be a bitch to have your battery die 50 miles from home, and be stranded (unless you hook up a gasoline generator)???

 

[22lcidw]

Actually, it means more coal-burning power plants and gas-operated generators...

Or more wind turbines (which take more energy to make than they will ever produce)...

After all, you have to get the electricity to recharge them from somewhere!!!

faster the better....then build new better Nuclear power plants to support the increase in juice

The Electrical grid can't stand a EMP much less handle 300 million plus electric cars plugged in at night.


.

It's not happening over night.

Remind me, didn't Trump recently walk out of an infrastructure meeting with the Democrats?

Remind me that Obama got near a trillion dollars for infrastructure and not a dollar spent on it. Anyway I would watch someone melt your carcass down and turn you into asphalt and make a street out of you and your family. You stole to much and you will steal more.

Can we really knock it off with the violent rhetoric? It's not necessary and takes away from whatever argument you are trying to make. #bebetter

Plus the GOP blocked the infrastructure bill in 2015.

I am talking about the other one where GM got saved from going out of business. The unions and the 3 thousand dollars a vehicle the costs of the pensions adds to them means a lot of votes. And cash for clunkers. Oh how the peasants are always screwed. And screwed by the ones who scream the loudest. And I know there is no negotiating with you. Its the rest of the people not Prog Socialist Communists who better start realizing it at a faster clip. The rhetoric is because you steal others money with your schemes. There are people who were screwed over with Dodd/Frank and of course Obamacare. Guns are being purchased for a reason.

 

[HappyJoy]

Whenever electric cars have a range of a thousand miles and can be plugged in to a 110 for 10 minutes for a full charge, Im in.

Over the last 20 years the range of electric cars have increased from 50 miles to over 350 so someday you might just see that. However the decision of whether you buy a gas or electric car in the future is probably going to depend on what manufactures build. Long range plans of the car companies is to build more electric cars and more models and less gas vehicles. It's quite possible that in 20 years, large SUVs and trucks will constitute almost all of the gas vehicle market.

I'd also add that I don't know of any cars that have a range of 1,000 miles on a single tank of gas.Hate to fill that up on empty.

But need I remind you...

Obozo wasted BILLIONS on failed "renewable energy" schemes...

And who wants a vehicle that goes a certain distance, and has to recharge, instead of filling up???

Wouldn't it be a bitch to have your battery die 50 miles from home, and be stranded (unless you hook up a gasoline generator)???

It's cheaper to charge a car than fill up so there are pros and cons to either. If your battery dies 50 miles from home I guess you have to call AAA just like if you ran out of gas.

 

[HappyJoy]

faster the better....then build new better Nuclear power plants to support the increase in juice

The Electrical grid can't stand a EMP much less handle 300 million plus electric cars plugged in at night.


.

It's not happening over night.

Remind me, didn't Trump recently walk out of an infrastructure meeting with the Democrats?

Remind me that Obama got near a trillion dollars for infrastructure and not a dollar spent on it. Anyway I would watch someone melt your carcass down and turn you into asphalt and make a street out of you and your family. You stole to much and you will steal more.

Can we really knock it off with the violent rhetoric? It's not necessary and takes away from whatever argument you are trying to make. #bebetter

Plus the GOP blocked the infrastructure bill in 2015.

I am talking about the other one where GM got saved from going out of business. The unions and the 3 thousand dollars a vehicle the costs of the pensions adds to them means a lot of votes. And cash for clunkers. Oh how the peasants are always screwed. And screwed by the ones who scream the loudest. And I know there is no negotiating with you. Its the rest of the people not Prog Socialist Communists who better start realizing it at a faster clip. The rhetoric is because you steal others money with your schemes. There are people who were screwed over with Dodd/Frank and of course Obamacare. Guns are being purchased for a reason.

I know, all those jobs saved and GM paid most of it back. Think we'll get those billions back from the farmers that Trump doled out because of something he started? I doubt it.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Whenever electric cars have a range of a thousand miles and can be plugged in to a 110 for 10 minutes for a full charge, Im in.

Over the last 20 years the range of electric cars have increased from 50 miles to over 350 so someday you might just see that. However the decision of whether you buy a gas or electric car in the future is probably going to depend on what manufactures build. Long range plans of the car companies is to build more electric cars and more models and less gas vehicles. It's quite possible that in 20 years, large SUVs and trucks will constitute almost all of the gas vehicle market.

I'd also add that I don't know of any cars that have a range of 1,000 miles on a single tank of gas.Hate to fill that up on empty.

Diesel can. It can be done using the fans, brakes, motion of wheels to recharge a percentage of the electric battery while driving. The technology is there but theyre not rolling it yet.