Top U.S. Presidents

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    With all the conjecture now going on as to where President Reagan will place among effective U.S. presidents, I would be interested in knowing what participants of this board think. In your mind, who would be the top five most effective U.S. presidents and the main reason you think each one deserves the place you have assigned them.
     
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    I'm no expert on the presidencies, but I like Theodore Roosevelt alot. While his foreign policy wasn't perfect, it was highly effective and even won him the Nobel Peace Prize.

    I think many attribute the saying "walk sofltly but carry a big stick " to him, while what he actually said was:

    "If a man continually blusters, if he lacks civility, a big stick will not save him from trouble but neither will speaking softly avail, if back of the softness there does not lie strength, power."

    I know that Bush and Rove are huge fans of Roosevelt. Time will tell how effective their foreign policies are...
     
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    1. Washington: the first President, he established most of the decorum guidelines for the office and was instrumental in the creation of the government.

    2. Jefferson: wrote the Declaration of Independence, was a staunch advocate of small government, and expanded the area of the US through the Louisiana Purchase.

    3. Lincoln: while I don't agree with his methods, he was the leader with the vision to keep the Union together and abolish slavery. His mark on America cannot be underestimated.

    4. FDR: revolutionized American politics, although his policies arguably kept America in the Depression longer than we would have been in it.

    5. Reagan. Again, he revolutionized American politics in a way that I think is still ongoing, not to mention he caused the downfall of the Soviet Union and ultimately of European communism.
     
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    I think that communism caused the downfall of communism, but yeah Reagan had something to do with it.
     
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    Any of the first 15 presidents with the notable exceptions of Andrew Jackson, John Adams, and woodrow wilson for flagrant violations of civil rights and the constitution.
     
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    1. TIE Washington/Lincoln- I think it's really just impossible to put one of these guys above the other.
    -Washington was the father of this country, but Lincoln was its saviour.
    -Washington freed millions of people, so did Lincoln.
    -Both were devout Christians
    If I had to put one above the other, I guess I would choose Lincoln, simply because....he was a Republican:rolleyes:

    2. Franklin Delanor Roosevelt- His economic policies played a part in helping us to get out of the Great Depression. He also saw us through WWII.

    3. Harry S. Truman- I could only imagine the agony he endured when deciding to use the A-bomb on Japan, he spard countless thousands of American lives. He was also in my opinion the last good Democrat

    4. Ronald Wilson Regan- Under him, we were pulled out a a terrible recession and 25 million jobs were created. Thanks greatly to him, the Soviet Union collasped. He was kind, funny, and determined. He transformed my party and inspired a new generation of young conservative Republicans.

    5. George Walker Bush- Under him, we were again pulled out of a terrible recession and now have the fastest growing economy of ANY major industrialized nation on earth. It's also the fastest growing U.S. economy in almost 30 years. His incredible leadership after 9/11 ensured his place on this list. He has rallied the world againsy terror. He is also kind, funny, and determined, damn, the ya gotta admit, the similarities are there people.

    LOL, my list is bi-partisan.
     
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    No offense, but no way Bush makes the Top 5.
     
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    Maybe not in your opinion.
     
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    My list would look alot like GOPJeff's with a couple differences. I think TR beats out Truman.

    I think Washington beats Lincoln by a whisker. Not only was he first, but without his prior leadership-there would not have been a 'country' to save.

    I'm a big fan of Andrew Jackson in many ways, though certainly not Native American/slavery philosophies. I also would throw out the concept of 'mob rule', though there is something inherently American in protests, there has to be strict limits on destruction.

    I was tinkering with the idea of dropping GW, since time will tell, but for now I think I'll let myself have 6 choices.

    :eek:
     
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    I have to agree with Washington and Lincoln for the same reasons already mentioned. I would then add FDR but not for his economic principles as stated already in this thread but moreso for his ability to understand and respond to the true plights of regular Americans and indeed the world despite severe opposition from both sides of the political aisle. His leadership has never been equalled, in my opinion, except possibly by the Gipper, also extraordinary but in a different way. That leaves only one more to add to my top 5 list. I do so reluctantly as I believe we have so many very remarkables in our nations history.

    Dwight D. Eisenhower. His actions concerning racial integration in our military and then in our civilian educational and residential entities began the responsible righting of the greatest scourge on the history of our great nation. Even though racism still exists and always will, President Eisenhower's actions began the crumbling of the institutionalised forms of it's expression that to this day poison our civilisation. But, I still believe in the famous words of the late, great Martin Luther King. "We shall overcome" as I continue to substitute the word "We" with other words like "Truth" and "Justice". I don't think many Americans realize how significant President Eisenhower's actions have changed the shapes of our society.

    So, that's it. Washington, Lincoln, F. D. Roosevelt, Eisenhower and Reagan. And not in any particular order other than chronological and also not to exclude the so many other greats in our history as I was only afforded a list of 5.

    Psychoblues
     

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