Tired of the Assertion that Mass Gun Violence Doesn't Exist Elsewhere.

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It's simply not true.. I've read it a dozen times in the past 36 hours and several USMB members have tried to correct this assertion.. So here's a partial list of MOSTLY "gun free" European/Australian Mass shootings since 2000 and a couple from Canada.. Does not include Russia --- where their gun violence is equal or worse than outs. I have links to ALL of them -- and here's 3 links to start..

Emsdetten school shooting - Wikipedia
Alphen aan den Rijn shopping mall shooting - Wikipedia
2011 Liège attack - Wikipedia

Europe:

French railroad worker goes on rampage: kills 4, wounds 10.

Mentally ill alcoholic Swiss man shoots up canton parliament in Zug, killing 14 and wounding 18.

Italian man angry over eviction starts shooting at random into the street, killing four and wounding 8.

Mentally ill French man opens fire on the city council of Nanterre, killing 9 including himself and wounding 19.

Mentally ill Serbian man opens fire on the street in Jabukovac after a fight with his wife (and after jumping down a well and being rescued), killing 9 and wounding 4.

Bosnian man kills his neighbors and then boards a bus in Lipnica, killing 6 total.

A woman in Loerrach, Germany, kills her husband during a custody dispute then goes on a shooting and stabbing spree in a hospital, killing 3 and wounding 18.

A recently graduated German student returns to his high school in Albertville, Germany and opened fire, ultimately killing 16 and wounding 9.

A Slovakian man opens fire in Bratislava, killing 9 and wounding 8.

A British taxi driver kills 12 and wounds 11 in Cumbria.

A Serbian man goes on a shooting spree in the village of Velika Ivanca, killing 14.

A Czech man opens fire in a restaurant, killing 9.

A Slovakian man opens fire in an apartment complex, killing 8 and wounding 15.

A Belgian man opens fire (and throws grenades) at the town square in Liege, killing 7 and wounding 125.

On the same day, a right-wing Italian extremist shoots up a Senegalese marketplace in Florence, killing 3 and wounding 3.

A mentally ill Dutch firearms enthusiast opens fire on a shopping mall, killing 7 and wounding 17.

An Islamist in Frankfurt opens fire at US military personnel transferring in the airport, killing 2 and wounding 2.

A recent graduate returns to his high school in Emsdetten, Germany, and opens fire, wounding 22.

A student expelled from high school in Erfurt, Germany, returns to the school and opens fire, killing 17.

An Islamic extremist opens fire at an "art, freedom, and blasphemy" festival in Copenhagen, killing 3 and wounding 5.

An 18 year old Finn opens fire in Hyvinkaa, killing 2 and wounding 8.

A Finnish high school student goes to his school and opens fire, killing 9 and wounding 13.

A Finnish college student shoots up his campus, killing 11 and wounding 11.

A Finnish man kills his girlfriend after alleging her infidelity, then randomly shoots up a shopping mall, killing an additional 4 people and himself (for 6 total).

A still-unknown man shoots and kills 4 at a rest stop in Annecy, France (this may well have been a hit, with 3 of the people just in the wrong place at the wrong time).

A backpacker shoots up a traveller camp in Roye, France, killing 4 and wounding 4.

A gunman opens fire in Istres, France, killing 3.

A possibly Islamist Algerian (or possibly nationalist, or possibly just crazy) open fire targeting French military personnel and gensd'armes in Toulouse and then Montauban, killing 8 and wounding 5.

Irish Republican paramilitaries in "The Real IRA" open fire on a barracks in Antrim Town, killing 2 and wounding 4 in a (thankfully unsuccessful) attempt to derail the peace process.

A Swedish right-wing extremist shoots dark-skinned people in Malmo over the course of several months (comparisons were made to the "Beltway Sniper" MO).

A disgruntled British bouncer and tree surgeon kills 2 and wounds 2 in a shooting spree in Northumbria.

A Norwegian white supremacist shoots 67 children at a political camp after killing 8 with a bomb in Oslo.

An Italian security guard goes on a rampage in Turin, killing 8 including himself.

Canada:

A mentally ill New Brunswicker shoots police in Moncton, killing 3 and wounding 2.

A Quebecois convert to Islam opens fire on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, killing 2 and wounding 3.

A man with a history of domestic violence shoots and killed 8 members of his family and then himself in Edmonton.

An Indo-Canadian college student goes to his college in Montreal and opens fire, killing 2 and wounding 19.

Australia:

A mentally ill college student opens fire on his campus, killing 2 and wounding 5.

A mentally ill man shoots his neighbors, whom he suspected of poisoning his dog, and barricaded himself in his house until arrested after a siege: in total 3 died and 3 were injured.

Islamist extremists hold hostages in Sydney; in all 3 are killed and 4 are injured.


AHHHH Merry Olde Gun Free England in 2010...
Cumbria shootings - Wikipedia

I could go on.. But it sickens me.
 
It's simply not true.. I've read it a dozen times in the past 36 hours and several USMB members have tried to correct this assertion.. So here's a partial list of MOSTLY "gun free" European/Australian Mass shootings since 2000 and a couple from Canada.. Does not include Russia --- where their gun violence is equal or worse than outs. I have links to ALL of them -- and here's 3 links to start..

Emsdetten school shooting - Wikipedia
Alphen aan den Rijn shopping mall shooting - Wikipedia
2011 Liège attack - Wikipedia

Europe:

French railroad worker goes on rampage: kills 4, wounds 10.

Mentally ill alcoholic Swiss man shoots up canton parliament in Zug, killing 14 and wounding 18.

Italian man angry over eviction starts shooting at random into the street, killing four and wounding 8.

Mentally ill French man opens fire on the city council of Nanterre, killing 9 including himself and wounding 19.

Mentally ill Serbian man opens fire on the street in Jabukovac after a fight with his wife (and after jumping down a well and being rescued), killing 9 and wounding 4.

Bosnian man kills his neighbors and then boards a bus in Lipnica, killing 6 total.

A woman in Loerrach, Germany, kills her husband during a custody dispute then goes on a shooting and stabbing spree in a hospital, killing 3 and wounding 18.

A recently graduated German student returns to his high school in Albertville, Germany and opened fire, ultimately killing 16 and wounding 9.

A Slovakian man opens fire in Bratislava, killing 9 and wounding 8.

A British taxi driver kills 12 and wounds 11 in Cumbria.

A Serbian man goes on a shooting spree in the village of Velika Ivanca, killing 14.

A Czech man opens fire in a restaurant, killing 9.

A Slovakian man opens fire in an apartment complex, killing 8 and wounding 15.

A Belgian man opens fire (and throws grenades) at the town square in Liege, killing 7 and wounding 125.

On the same day, a right-wing Italian extremist shoots up a Senegalese marketplace in Florence, killing 3 and wounding 3.

A mentally ill Dutch firearms enthusiast opens fire on a shopping mall, killing 7 and wounding 17.

An Islamist in Frankfurt opens fire at US military personnel transferring in the airport, killing 2 and wounding 2.

A recent graduate returns to his high school in Emsdetten, Germany, and opens fire, wounding 22.

A student expelled from high school in Erfurt, Germany, returns to the school and opens fire, killing 17.

An Islamic extremist opens fire at an "art, freedom, and blasphemy" festival in Copenhagen, killing 3 and wounding 5.

An 18 year old Finn opens fire in Hyvinkaa, killing 2 and wounding 8.

A Finnish high school student goes to his school and opens fire, killing 9 and wounding 13.

A Finnish college student shoots up his campus, killing 11 and wounding 11.

A Finnish man kills his girlfriend after alleging her infidelity, then randomly shoots up a shopping mall, killing an additional 4 people and himself (for 6 total).

A still-unknown man shoots and kills 4 at a rest stop in Annecy, France (this may well have been a hit, with 3 of the people just in the wrong place at the wrong time).

A backpacker shoots up a traveller camp in Roye, France, killing 4 and wounding 4.

A gunman opens fire in Istres, France, killing 3.

A possibly Islamist Algerian (or possibly nationalist, or possibly just crazy) open fire targeting French military personnel and gensd'armes in Toulouse and then Montauban, killing 8 and wounding 5.

Irish Republican paramilitaries in "The Real IRA" open fire on a barracks in Antrim Town, killing 2 and wounding 4 in a (thankfully unsuccessful) attempt to derail the peace process.

A Swedish right-wing extremist shoots dark-skinned people in Malmo over the course of several months (comparisons were made to the "Beltway Sniper" MO).

A disgruntled British bouncer and tree surgeon kills 2 and wounds 2 in a shooting spree in Northumbria.

A Norwegian white supremacist shoots 67 children at a political camp after killing 8 with a bomb in Oslo.

An Italian security guard goes on a rampage in Turin, killing 8 including himself.

Canada:

A mentally ill New Brunswicker shoots police in Moncton, killing 3 and wounding 2.

A Quebecois convert to Islam opens fire on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, killing 2 and wounding 3.

A man with a history of domestic violence shoots and killed 8 members of his family and then himself in Edmonton.

An Indo-Canadian college student goes to his college in Montreal and opens fire, killing 2 and wounding 19.

Australia:

A mentally ill college student opens fire on his campus, killing 2 and wounding 5.

A mentally ill man shoots his neighbors, whom he suspected of poisoning his dog, and barricaded himself in his house until arrested after a siege: in total 3 died and 3 were injured.

Islamist extremists hold hostages in Sydney; in all 3 are killed and 4 are injured.


AHHHH Merry Olde Gun Free England in 2010...
Cumbria shootings - Wikipedia

I could go on.. But it sickens me.

It sickens me too.
 
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It's simply not true.. I've read it a dozen times in the past 36 hours and several USMB members have tried to correct this assertion.. So here's a partial list of MOSTLY "gun free" European/Australian Mass shootings since 2000 and a couple from Canada.. Does not include Russia --- where their gun violence is equal or worse than outs. I have links to ALL of them -- and here's 3 links to start..

Emsdetten school shooting - Wikipedia
Alphen aan den Rijn shopping mall shooting - Wikipedia
2011 Liège attack - Wikipedia

Europe:

French railroad worker goes on rampage: kills 4, wounds 10.

Mentally ill alcoholic Swiss man shoots up canton parliament in Zug, killing 14 and wounding 18.

Italian man angry over eviction starts shooting at random into the street, killing four and wounding 8.

Mentally ill French man opens fire on the city council of Nanterre, killing 9 including himself and wounding 19.

Mentally ill Serbian man opens fire on the street in Jabukovac after a fight with his wife (and after jumping down a well and being rescued), killing 9 and wounding 4.

Bosnian man kills his neighbors and then boards a bus in Lipnica, killing 6 total.

A woman in Loerrach, Germany, kills her husband during a custody dispute then goes on a shooting and stabbing spree in a hospital, killing 3 and wounding 18.

A recently graduated German student returns to his high school in Albertville, Germany and opened fire, ultimately killing 16 and wounding 9.

A Slovakian man opens fire in Bratislava, killing 9 and wounding 8.

A British taxi driver kills 12 and wounds 11 in Cumbria.

A Serbian man goes on a shooting spree in the village of Velika Ivanca, killing 14.

A Czech man opens fire in a restaurant, killing 9.

A Slovakian man opens fire in an apartment complex, killing 8 and wounding 15.

A Belgian man opens fire (and throws grenades) at the town square in Liege, killing 7 and wounding 125.

On the same day, a right-wing Italian extremist shoots up a Senegalese marketplace in Florence, killing 3 and wounding 3.

A mentally ill Dutch firearms enthusiast opens fire on a shopping mall, killing 7 and wounding 17.

An Islamist in Frankfurt opens fire at US military personnel transferring in the airport, killing 2 and wounding 2.

A recent graduate returns to his high school in Emsdetten, Germany, and opens fire, wounding 22.

A student expelled from high school in Erfurt, Germany, returns to the school and opens fire, killing 17.

An Islamic extremist opens fire at an "art, freedom, and blasphemy" festival in Copenhagen, killing 3 and wounding 5.

An 18 year old Finn opens fire in Hyvinkaa, killing 2 and wounding 8.

A Finnish high school student goes to his school and opens fire, killing 9 and wounding 13.

A Finnish college student shoots up his campus, killing 11 and wounding 11.

A Finnish man kills his girlfriend after alleging her infidelity, then randomly shoots up a shopping mall, killing an additional 4 people and himself (for 6 total).

A still-unknown man shoots and kills 4 at a rest stop in Annecy, France (this may well have been a hit, with 3 of the people just in the wrong place at the wrong time).

A backpacker shoots up a traveller camp in Roye, France, killing 4 and wounding 4.

A gunman opens fire in Istres, France, killing 3.

A possibly Islamist Algerian (or possibly nationalist, or possibly just crazy) open fire targeting French military personnel and gensd'armes in Toulouse and then Montauban, killing 8 and wounding 5.

Irish Republican paramilitaries in "The Real IRA" open fire on a barracks in Antrim Town, killing 2 and wounding 4 in a (thankfully unsuccessful) attempt to derail the peace process.

A Swedish right-wing extremist shoots dark-skinned people in Malmo over the course of several months (comparisons were made to the "Beltway Sniper" MO).

A disgruntled British bouncer and tree surgeon kills 2 and wounds 2 in a shooting spree in Northumbria.

A Norwegian white supremacist shoots 67 children at a political camp after killing 8 with a bomb in Oslo.

An Italian security guard goes on a rampage in Turin, killing 8 including himself.

Canada:

A mentally ill New Brunswicker shoots police in Moncton, killing 3 and wounding 2.

A Quebecois convert to Islam opens fire on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, killing 2 and wounding 3.

A man with a history of domestic violence shoots and killed 8 members of his family and then himself in Edmonton.

An Indo-Canadian college student goes to his college in Montreal and opens fire, killing 2 and wounding 19.

Australia:

A mentally ill college student opens fire on his campus, killing 2 and wounding 5.

A mentally ill man shoots his neighbors, whom he suspected of poisoning his dog, and barricaded himself in his house until arrested after a siege: in total 3 died and 3 were injured.

Islamist extremists hold hostages in Sydney; in all 3 are killed and 4 are injured.


AHHHH Merry Olde Gun Free England in 2010...
Cumbria shootings - Wikipedia

I could go on.. But it sickens me.

It sickens me too.

I'm really not picking on USMB members for repeating this lie. It's mainly US Politicians that are just parroting this "it simply doesn't happen elsewhere" line. When the leadership spreads disinformation like this -- it needs to be corrected and we no longer get an honest days work out of our media to DO that job...
 
It's simply not true.. I've read it a dozen times in the past 36 hours and several USMB members have tried to correct this assertion.. So here's a partial list of MOSTLY "gun free" European/Australian Mass shootings since 2000 and a couple from Canada.. Does not include Russia --- where their gun violence is equal or worse than outs. I have links to ALL of them -- and here's 3 links to start..

Emsdetten school shooting - Wikipedia
Alphen aan den Rijn shopping mall shooting - Wikipedia
2011 Liège attack - Wikipedia

Europe:

French railroad worker goes on rampage: kills 4, wounds 10.

Mentally ill alcoholic Swiss man shoots up canton parliament in Zug, killing 14 and wounding 18.

Italian man angry over eviction starts shooting at random into the street, killing four and wounding 8.

Mentally ill French man opens fire on the city council of Nanterre, killing 9 including himself and wounding 19.

Mentally ill Serbian man opens fire on the street in Jabukovac after a fight with his wife (and after jumping down a well and being rescued), killing 9 and wounding 4.

Bosnian man kills his neighbors and then boards a bus in Lipnica, killing 6 total.

A woman in Loerrach, Germany, kills her husband during a custody dispute then goes on a shooting and stabbing spree in a hospital, killing 3 and wounding 18.

A recently graduated German student returns to his high school in Albertville, Germany and opened fire, ultimately killing 16 and wounding 9.

A Slovakian man opens fire in Bratislava, killing 9 and wounding 8.

A British taxi driver kills 12 and wounds 11 in Cumbria.

A Serbian man goes on a shooting spree in the village of Velika Ivanca, killing 14.

A Czech man opens fire in a restaurant, killing 9.

A Slovakian man opens fire in an apartment complex, killing 8 and wounding 15.

A Belgian man opens fire (and throws grenades) at the town square in Liege, killing 7 and wounding 125.

On the same day, a right-wing Italian extremist shoots up a Senegalese marketplace in Florence, killing 3 and wounding 3.

A mentally ill Dutch firearms enthusiast opens fire on a shopping mall, killing 7 and wounding 17.

An Islamist in Frankfurt opens fire at US military personnel transferring in the airport, killing 2 and wounding 2.

A recent graduate returns to his high school in Emsdetten, Germany, and opens fire, wounding 22.

A student expelled from high school in Erfurt, Germany, returns to the school and opens fire, killing 17.

An Islamic extremist opens fire at an "art, freedom, and blasphemy" festival in Copenhagen, killing 3 and wounding 5.

An 18 year old Finn opens fire in Hyvinkaa, killing 2 and wounding 8.

A Finnish high school student goes to his school and opens fire, killing 9 and wounding 13.

A Finnish college student shoots up his campus, killing 11 and wounding 11.

A Finnish man kills his girlfriend after alleging her infidelity, then randomly shoots up a shopping mall, killing an additional 4 people and himself (for 6 total).

A still-unknown man shoots and kills 4 at a rest stop in Annecy, France (this may well have been a hit, with 3 of the people just in the wrong place at the wrong time).

A backpacker shoots up a traveller camp in Roye, France, killing 4 and wounding 4.

A gunman opens fire in Istres, France, killing 3.

A possibly Islamist Algerian (or possibly nationalist, or possibly just crazy) open fire targeting French military personnel and gensd'armes in Toulouse and then Montauban, killing 8 and wounding 5.

Irish Republican paramilitaries in "The Real IRA" open fire on a barracks in Antrim Town, killing 2 and wounding 4 in a (thankfully unsuccessful) attempt to derail the peace process.

A Swedish right-wing extremist shoots dark-skinned people in Malmo over the course of several months (comparisons were made to the "Beltway Sniper" MO).

A disgruntled British bouncer and tree surgeon kills 2 and wounds 2 in a shooting spree in Northumbria.

A Norwegian white supremacist shoots 67 children at a political camp after killing 8 with a bomb in Oslo.

An Italian security guard goes on a rampage in Turin, killing 8 including himself.

Canada:

A mentally ill New Brunswicker shoots police in Moncton, killing 3 and wounding 2.

A Quebecois convert to Islam opens fire on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, killing 2 and wounding 3.

A man with a history of domestic violence shoots and killed 8 members of his family and then himself in Edmonton.

An Indo-Canadian college student goes to his college in Montreal and opens fire, killing 2 and wounding 19.

Australia:

A mentally ill college student opens fire on his campus, killing 2 and wounding 5.

A mentally ill man shoots his neighbors, whom he suspected of poisoning his dog, and barricaded himself in his house until arrested after a siege: in total 3 died and 3 were injured.

Islamist extremists hold hostages in Sydney; in all 3 are killed and 4 are injured.


AHHHH Merry Olde Gun Free England in 2010...
Cumbria shootings - Wikipedia

I could go on.. But it sickens me.

It sickens me too.

I'm really not picking on USMB members for repeating this lie. It's mainly US Politicians that are just parroting this "it simply doesn't happen elsewhere" line. When the leadership spreads disinformation like this -- it needs to be corrected and we no longer get an honest days work out of our media to DO that job...

I live in the midst of it.

Are people walking around eyes wide shut?

It really annoys me.

That incident in the train. Clint Eastwood's made a movie about it. A guy boards the Brussels to Paris high speed train, and assembles a heavy assault weapon. Where did he get that from?
 
Hey.. It's conveniently out there. Want to narrow it down to School Shootings around the world? It's not hard to do.. .

School shooting - Wikipedia Frequency has INCREASED around the Western World since the 80s regardless of availability to find guns. There's a clue..

Note that too many reports in US define "school shooting" as ANY SHOOTING occurring on school grounds. Which of course includes bad drug deals in the parking lot at 2AM and suicides under the bleachers...
 
It's simply not true.. I've read it a dozen times in the past 36 hours and several USMB members have tried to correct this assertion.. So here's a partial list of MOSTLY "gun free" European/Australian Mass shootings since 2000 and a couple from Canada.. Does not include Russia --- where their gun violence is equal or worse than outs. I have links to ALL of them -- and here's 3 links to start..

Emsdetten school shooting - Wikipedia
Alphen aan den Rijn shopping mall shooting - Wikipedia
2011 Liège attack - Wikipedia

Europe:

French railroad worker goes on rampage: kills 4, wounds 10.

Mentally ill alcoholic Swiss man shoots up canton parliament in Zug, killing 14 and wounding 18.

Italian man angry over eviction starts shooting at random into the street, killing four and wounding 8.

Mentally ill French man opens fire on the city council of Nanterre, killing 9 including himself and wounding 19.

Mentally ill Serbian man opens fire on the street in Jabukovac after a fight with his wife (and after jumping down a well and being rescued), killing 9 and wounding 4.

Bosnian man kills his neighbors and then boards a bus in Lipnica, killing 6 total.

A woman in Loerrach, Germany, kills her husband during a custody dispute then goes on a shooting and stabbing spree in a hospital, killing 3 and wounding 18.

A recently graduated German student returns to his high school in Albertville, Germany and opened fire, ultimately killing 16 and wounding 9.

A Slovakian man opens fire in Bratislava, killing 9 and wounding 8.

A British taxi driver kills 12 and wounds 11 in Cumbria.

A Serbian man goes on a shooting spree in the village of Velika Ivanca, killing 14.

A Czech man opens fire in a restaurant, killing 9.

A Slovakian man opens fire in an apartment complex, killing 8 and wounding 15.

A Belgian man opens fire (and throws grenades) at the town square in Liege, killing 7 and wounding 125.

On the same day, a right-wing Italian extremist shoots up a Senegalese marketplace in Florence, killing 3 and wounding 3.

A mentally ill Dutch firearms enthusiast opens fire on a shopping mall, killing 7 and wounding 17.

An Islamist in Frankfurt opens fire at US military personnel transferring in the airport, killing 2 and wounding 2.

A recent graduate returns to his high school in Emsdetten, Germany, and opens fire, wounding 22.

A student expelled from high school in Erfurt, Germany, returns to the school and opens fire, killing 17.

An Islamic extremist opens fire at an "art, freedom, and blasphemy" festival in Copenhagen, killing 3 and wounding 5.

An 18 year old Finn opens fire in Hyvinkaa, killing 2 and wounding 8.

A Finnish high school student goes to his school and opens fire, killing 9 and wounding 13.

A Finnish college student shoots up his campus, killing 11 and wounding 11.

A Finnish man kills his girlfriend after alleging her infidelity, then randomly shoots up a shopping mall, killing an additional 4 people and himself (for 6 total).

A still-unknown man shoots and kills 4 at a rest stop in Annecy, France (this may well have been a hit, with 3 of the people just in the wrong place at the wrong time).

A backpacker shoots up a traveller camp in Roye, France, killing 4 and wounding 4.

A gunman opens fire in Istres, France, killing 3.

A possibly Islamist Algerian (or possibly nationalist, or possibly just crazy) open fire targeting French military personnel and gensd'armes in Toulouse and then Montauban, killing 8 and wounding 5.

Irish Republican paramilitaries in "The Real IRA" open fire on a barracks in Antrim Town, killing 2 and wounding 4 in a (thankfully unsuccessful) attempt to derail the peace process.

A Swedish right-wing extremist shoots dark-skinned people in Malmo over the course of several months (comparisons were made to the "Beltway Sniper" MO).

A disgruntled British bouncer and tree surgeon kills 2 and wounds 2 in a shooting spree in Northumbria.

A Norwegian white supremacist shoots 67 children at a political camp after killing 8 with a bomb in Oslo.

An Italian security guard goes on a rampage in Turin, killing 8 including himself.

Canada:

A mentally ill New Brunswicker shoots police in Moncton, killing 3 and wounding 2.

A Quebecois convert to Islam opens fire on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, killing 2 and wounding 3.

A man with a history of domestic violence shoots and killed 8 members of his family and then himself in Edmonton.

An Indo-Canadian college student goes to his college in Montreal and opens fire, killing 2 and wounding 19.

Australia:

A mentally ill college student opens fire on his campus, killing 2 and wounding 5.

A mentally ill man shoots his neighbors, whom he suspected of poisoning his dog, and barricaded himself in his house until arrested after a siege: in total 3 died and 3 were injured.

Islamist extremists hold hostages in Sydney; in all 3 are killed and 4 are injured.


AHHHH Merry Olde Gun Free England in 2010...
Cumbria shootings - Wikipedia

I could go on.. But it sickens me.
There is a lot less shooting in the states than in Europe, Mid East, Africa or Asia.

In Nigeria Africa few years ago the islamists kidnapped 250 school girls less than 11 yrs old , Rapped them and took them with them to their camps.
They became mothers all of them at 12 years old.

In Europe ISSIS runs the ghettos.
Britain, Belgium, France, Spain, Germany, Holland ..
All of their fighters were born in Europe and all have weapons.
And they blew up many cities from Paris to Barcelona...

We are 1000 times more safer here than the europeans in europe.
Except for some lunatics.
 
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It's simply not true.. I've read it a dozen times in the past 36 hours and several USMB members have tried to correct this assertion.. So here's a partial list of MOSTLY "gun free" European/Australian Mass shootings since 2000 and a couple from Canada.. Does not include Russia --- where their gun violence is equal or worse than outs. I have links to ALL of them -- and here's 3 links to start..

Emsdetten school shooting - Wikipedia
Alphen aan den Rijn shopping mall shooting - Wikipedia
2011 Liège attack - Wikipedia

Europe:

French railroad worker goes on rampage: kills 4, wounds 10.

Mentally ill alcoholic Swiss man shoots up canton parliament in Zug, killing 14 and wounding 18.

Italian man angry over eviction starts shooting at random into the street, killing four and wounding 8.

Mentally ill French man opens fire on the city council of Nanterre, killing 9 including himself and wounding 19.

Mentally ill Serbian man opens fire on the street in Jabukovac after a fight with his wife (and after jumping down a well and being rescued), killing 9 and wounding 4.

Bosnian man kills his neighbors and then boards a bus in Lipnica, killing 6 total.

A woman in Loerrach, Germany, kills her husband during a custody dispute then goes on a shooting and stabbing spree in a hospital, killing 3 and wounding 18.

A recently graduated German student returns to his high school in Albertville, Germany and opened fire, ultimately killing 16 and wounding 9.

A Slovakian man opens fire in Bratislava, killing 9 and wounding 8.

A British taxi driver kills 12 and wounds 11 in Cumbria.

A Serbian man goes on a shooting spree in the village of Velika Ivanca, killing 14.

A Czech man opens fire in a restaurant, killing 9.

A Slovakian man opens fire in an apartment complex, killing 8 and wounding 15.

A Belgian man opens fire (and throws grenades) at the town square in Liege, killing 7 and wounding 125.

On the same day, a right-wing Italian extremist shoots up a Senegalese marketplace in Florence, killing 3 and wounding 3.

A mentally ill Dutch firearms enthusiast opens fire on a shopping mall, killing 7 and wounding 17.

An Islamist in Frankfurt opens fire at US military personnel transferring in the airport, killing 2 and wounding 2.

A recent graduate returns to his high school in Emsdetten, Germany, and opens fire, wounding 22.

A student expelled from high school in Erfurt, Germany, returns to the school and opens fire, killing 17.

An Islamic extremist opens fire at an "art, freedom, and blasphemy" festival in Copenhagen, killing 3 and wounding 5.

An 18 year old Finn opens fire in Hyvinkaa, killing 2 and wounding 8.

A Finnish high school student goes to his school and opens fire, killing 9 and wounding 13.

A Finnish college student shoots up his campus, killing 11 and wounding 11.

A Finnish man kills his girlfriend after alleging her infidelity, then randomly shoots up a shopping mall, killing an additional 4 people and himself (for 6 total).

A still-unknown man shoots and kills 4 at a rest stop in Annecy, France (this may well have been a hit, with 3 of the people just in the wrong place at the wrong time).

A backpacker shoots up a traveller camp in Roye, France, killing 4 and wounding 4.

A gunman opens fire in Istres, France, killing 3.

A possibly Islamist Algerian (or possibly nationalist, or possibly just crazy) open fire targeting French military personnel and gensd'armes in Toulouse and then Montauban, killing 8 and wounding 5.

Irish Republican paramilitaries in "The Real IRA" open fire on a barracks in Antrim Town, killing 2 and wounding 4 in a (thankfully unsuccessful) attempt to derail the peace process.

A Swedish right-wing extremist shoots dark-skinned people in Malmo over the course of several months (comparisons were made to the "Beltway Sniper" MO).

A disgruntled British bouncer and tree surgeon kills 2 and wounds 2 in a shooting spree in Northumbria.

A Norwegian white supremacist shoots 67 children at a political camp after killing 8 with a bomb in Oslo.

An Italian security guard goes on a rampage in Turin, killing 8 including himself.

Canada:

A mentally ill New Brunswicker shoots police in Moncton, killing 3 and wounding 2.

A Quebecois convert to Islam opens fire on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, killing 2 and wounding 3.

A man with a history of domestic violence shoots and killed 8 members of his family and then himself in Edmonton.

An Indo-Canadian college student goes to his college in Montreal and opens fire, killing 2 and wounding 19.

Australia:

A mentally ill college student opens fire on his campus, killing 2 and wounding 5.

A mentally ill man shoots his neighbors, whom he suspected of poisoning his dog, and barricaded himself in his house until arrested after a siege: in total 3 died and 3 were injured.

Islamist extremists hold hostages in Sydney; in all 3 are killed and 4 are injured.


AHHHH Merry Olde Gun Free England in 2010...
Cumbria shootings - Wikipedia

I could go on.. But it sickens me.
There is a lot less shooting in the states than in Europe, Mid East, Africa or Asia.
In Nigeria few years ago the islamists kidnapped 250 school girls less than 11.
Rapped them and took them with them to their camps.
They became mothers all of them at 12 years old.
In Europe ISSIS runs the ghettos.
Britain, Belgium, France, Spain, Germany, Holland ..
All born in Europe and all have weapons.
And they blew up many cities.

We are 1000 times safer than the europeans.
Except for some lunatics.

Another of my pet rants. Americans don't know SHIT about what's happening in the rest of the world. The media just does not cover it. We sure catalogued and tally up the carnage better in the USA. But a LOT of the definitions and numbers are totally misleading. Maybe on purpose. Like the definition of a "school shooting' that I gave above...
 
It's simply not true.. I've read it a dozen times in the past 36 hours and several USMB members have tried to correct this assertion.. So here's a partial list of MOSTLY "gun free" European/Australian Mass shootings since 2000 and a couple from Canada.. Does not include Russia --- where their gun violence is equal or worse than outs. I have links to ALL of them -- and here's 3 links to start..

Emsdetten school shooting - Wikipedia
Alphen aan den Rijn shopping mall shooting - Wikipedia
2011 Liège attack - Wikipedia

Europe:

French railroad worker goes on rampage: kills 4, wounds 10.

Mentally ill alcoholic Swiss man shoots up canton parliament in Zug, killing 14 and wounding 18.

Italian man angry over eviction starts shooting at random into the street, killing four and wounding 8.

Mentally ill French man opens fire on the city council of Nanterre, killing 9 including himself and wounding 19.

Mentally ill Serbian man opens fire on the street in Jabukovac after a fight with his wife (and after jumping down a well and being rescued), killing 9 and wounding 4.

Bosnian man kills his neighbors and then boards a bus in Lipnica, killing 6 total.

A woman in Loerrach, Germany, kills her husband during a custody dispute then goes on a shooting and stabbing spree in a hospital, killing 3 and wounding 18.

A recently graduated German student returns to his high school in Albertville, Germany and opened fire, ultimately killing 16 and wounding 9.

A Slovakian man opens fire in Bratislava, killing 9 and wounding 8.

A British taxi driver kills 12 and wounds 11 in Cumbria.

A Serbian man goes on a shooting spree in the village of Velika Ivanca, killing 14.

A Czech man opens fire in a restaurant, killing 9.

A Slovakian man opens fire in an apartment complex, killing 8 and wounding 15.

A Belgian man opens fire (and throws grenades) at the town square in Liege, killing 7 and wounding 125.

On the same day, a right-wing Italian extremist shoots up a Senegalese marketplace in Florence, killing 3 and wounding 3.

A mentally ill Dutch firearms enthusiast opens fire on a shopping mall, killing 7 and wounding 17.

An Islamist in Frankfurt opens fire at US military personnel transferring in the airport, killing 2 and wounding 2.

A recent graduate returns to his high school in Emsdetten, Germany, and opens fire, wounding 22.

A student expelled from high school in Erfurt, Germany, returns to the school and opens fire, killing 17.

An Islamic extremist opens fire at an "art, freedom, and blasphemy" festival in Copenhagen, killing 3 and wounding 5.

An 18 year old Finn opens fire in Hyvinkaa, killing 2 and wounding 8.

A Finnish high school student goes to his school and opens fire, killing 9 and wounding 13.

A Finnish college student shoots up his campus, killing 11 and wounding 11.

A Finnish man kills his girlfriend after alleging her infidelity, then randomly shoots up a shopping mall, killing an additional 4 people and himself (for 6 total).

A still-unknown man shoots and kills 4 at a rest stop in Annecy, France (this may well have been a hit, with 3 of the people just in the wrong place at the wrong time).

A backpacker shoots up a traveller camp in Roye, France, killing 4 and wounding 4.

A gunman opens fire in Istres, France, killing 3.

A possibly Islamist Algerian (or possibly nationalist, or possibly just crazy) open fire targeting French military personnel and gensd'armes in Toulouse and then Montauban, killing 8 and wounding 5.

Irish Republican paramilitaries in "The Real IRA" open fire on a barracks in Antrim Town, killing 2 and wounding 4 in a (thankfully unsuccessful) attempt to derail the peace process.

A Swedish right-wing extremist shoots dark-skinned people in Malmo over the course of several months (comparisons were made to the "Beltway Sniper" MO).

A disgruntled British bouncer and tree surgeon kills 2 and wounds 2 in a shooting spree in Northumbria.

A Norwegian white supremacist shoots 67 children at a political camp after killing 8 with a bomb in Oslo.

An Italian security guard goes on a rampage in Turin, killing 8 including himself.

Canada:

A mentally ill New Brunswicker shoots police in Moncton, killing 3 and wounding 2.

A Quebecois convert to Islam opens fire on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, killing 2 and wounding 3.

A man with a history of domestic violence shoots and killed 8 members of his family and then himself in Edmonton.

An Indo-Canadian college student goes to his college in Montreal and opens fire, killing 2 and wounding 19.

Australia:

A mentally ill college student opens fire on his campus, killing 2 and wounding 5.

A mentally ill man shoots his neighbors, whom he suspected of poisoning his dog, and barricaded himself in his house until arrested after a siege: in total 3 died and 3 were injured.

Islamist extremists hold hostages in Sydney; in all 3 are killed and 4 are injured.


AHHHH Merry Olde Gun Free England in 2010...
Cumbria shootings - Wikipedia

I could go on.. But it sickens me.
There is a lot less shooting in the states than in Europe, Mid East, Africa or Asia.
In Nigeria few years ago the islamists kidnapped 250 school girls less than 11.
Rapped them and took them with them to their camps.
They became mothers all of them at 12 years old.
In Europe ISSIS runs the ghettos.
Britain, Belgium, France, Spain, Germany, Holland ..
All born in Europe and all have weapons.
And they blew up many cities.

We are 1000 times safer than the europeans.
Except for some lunatics.

Heavy police presence at joyous events, Christmas Markets, Carnival and the like, have become normalised. My mouth drops at the sleepwalking attitude of the general public. Terrorism doesn't bother them because they could just as easily get run over by a vehicle.

Like they accept this as the norm.
 
It's simply not true.. I've read it a dozen times in the past 36 hours and several USMB members have tried to correct this assertion.. So here's a partial list of MOSTLY "gun free" European/Australian Mass shootings since 2000 and a couple from Canada.. Does not include Russia --- where their gun violence is equal or worse than outs. I have links to ALL of them -- and here's 3 links to start..

Emsdetten school shooting - Wikipedia
Alphen aan den Rijn shopping mall shooting - Wikipedia
2011 Liège attack - Wikipedia

Europe:

French railroad worker goes on rampage: kills 4, wounds 10.

Mentally ill alcoholic Swiss man shoots up canton parliament in Zug, killing 14 and wounding 18.

Italian man angry over eviction starts shooting at random into the street, killing four and wounding 8.

Mentally ill French man opens fire on the city council of Nanterre, killing 9 including himself and wounding 19.

Mentally ill Serbian man opens fire on the street in Jabukovac after a fight with his wife (and after jumping down a well and being rescued), killing 9 and wounding 4.

Bosnian man kills his neighbors and then boards a bus in Lipnica, killing 6 total.

A woman in Loerrach, Germany, kills her husband during a custody dispute then goes on a shooting and stabbing spree in a hospital, killing 3 and wounding 18.

A recently graduated German student returns to his high school in Albertville, Germany and opened fire, ultimately killing 16 and wounding 9.

A Slovakian man opens fire in Bratislava, killing 9 and wounding 8.

A British taxi driver kills 12 and wounds 11 in Cumbria.

A Serbian man goes on a shooting spree in the village of Velika Ivanca, killing 14.

A Czech man opens fire in a restaurant, killing 9.

A Slovakian man opens fire in an apartment complex, killing 8 and wounding 15.

A Belgian man opens fire (and throws grenades) at the town square in Liege, killing 7 and wounding 125.

On the same day, a right-wing Italian extremist shoots up a Senegalese marketplace in Florence, killing 3 and wounding 3.

A mentally ill Dutch firearms enthusiast opens fire on a shopping mall, killing 7 and wounding 17.

An Islamist in Frankfurt opens fire at US military personnel transferring in the airport, killing 2 and wounding 2.

A recent graduate returns to his high school in Emsdetten, Germany, and opens fire, wounding 22.

A student expelled from high school in Erfurt, Germany, returns to the school and opens fire, killing 17.

An Islamic extremist opens fire at an "art, freedom, and blasphemy" festival in Copenhagen, killing 3 and wounding 5.

An 18 year old Finn opens fire in Hyvinkaa, killing 2 and wounding 8.

A Finnish high school student goes to his school and opens fire, killing 9 and wounding 13.

A Finnish college student shoots up his campus, killing 11 and wounding 11.

A Finnish man kills his girlfriend after alleging her infidelity, then randomly shoots up a shopping mall, killing an additional 4 people and himself (for 6 total).

A still-unknown man shoots and kills 4 at a rest stop in Annecy, France (this may well have been a hit, with 3 of the people just in the wrong place at the wrong time).

A backpacker shoots up a traveller camp in Roye, France, killing 4 and wounding 4.

A gunman opens fire in Istres, France, killing 3.

A possibly Islamist Algerian (or possibly nationalist, or possibly just crazy) open fire targeting French military personnel and gensd'armes in Toulouse and then Montauban, killing 8 and wounding 5.

Irish Republican paramilitaries in "The Real IRA" open fire on a barracks in Antrim Town, killing 2 and wounding 4 in a (thankfully unsuccessful) attempt to derail the peace process.

A Swedish right-wing extremist shoots dark-skinned people in Malmo over the course of several months (comparisons were made to the "Beltway Sniper" MO).

A disgruntled British bouncer and tree surgeon kills 2 and wounds 2 in a shooting spree in Northumbria.

A Norwegian white supremacist shoots 67 children at a political camp after killing 8 with a bomb in Oslo.

An Italian security guard goes on a rampage in Turin, killing 8 including himself.

Canada:

A mentally ill New Brunswicker shoots police in Moncton, killing 3 and wounding 2.

A Quebecois convert to Islam opens fire on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, killing 2 and wounding 3.

A man with a history of domestic violence shoots and killed 8 members of his family and then himself in Edmonton.

An Indo-Canadian college student goes to his college in Montreal and opens fire, killing 2 and wounding 19.

Australia:

A mentally ill college student opens fire on his campus, killing 2 and wounding 5.

A mentally ill man shoots his neighbors, whom he suspected of poisoning his dog, and barricaded himself in his house until arrested after a siege: in total 3 died and 3 were injured.

Islamist extremists hold hostages in Sydney; in all 3 are killed and 4 are injured.


AHHHH Merry Olde Gun Free England in 2010...
Cumbria shootings - Wikipedia

I could go on.. But it sickens me.
There is a lot less shooting in the states than in Europe, Mid East, Africa or Asia.
In Nigeria few years ago the islamists kidnapped 250 school girls less than 11.
Rapped them and took them with them to their camps.
They became mothers all of them at 12 years old.
In Europe ISSIS runs the ghettos.
Britain, Belgium, France, Spain, Germany, Holland ..
All born in Europe and all have weapons.
And they blew up many cities.

We are 1000 times safer than the europeans.
Except for some lunatics.

Another of my pet rants. Americans don't know SHIT about what's happening in the rest of the world. The media just does not cover it. We sure catalogued and tally up the carnage better in the USA. But a LOT of the definitions and numbers are totally misleading. Maybe on purpose. Like the definition of a "school shooting' that I gave above...

That's for sure. They get fed stereotypes like tea and crumpets, Miss Marple, Buckingham Palace and Megan Markle. Some of it so quaint and outdated, it's almost ludicrous.

British television right now is putting out many programmes about America. All positive, and quite lovely, some of it.

Latest one being a crime and punishment series, in which British journalists are given access to US jails, can talk to prisoners, justice officials, the families involved. There's no bias, just plain reporting. So we get informed about what is going on over the Pond.
 
Unfortunately, another missed opportunity for the FBI, focused like a laser on 'Muh Russia".
When seconds count, the police are only minutes away, so why not leave the little kiddies sitting unprotected in their gun free zones, like clay pigeons, fish in a barrel.
All will be well after the Obama friends and embeds in the FBI and DOJ take Comrade Sheikh Buraq from his current abode in Kalorama and reinstall him as President, with the additional title of 'Dictator For Life' allowing the nations anal fornicators and Obama fellators to sleep peacefully at night, inhale copious volumes of 'Good Bud' by day and sing 'Kumbiyah' all the time.
 
I don't even want to mention what I'm thinking about, but it happened in Russia.

US schools are pretty safe in comparison. Things actually used to be a lot better.

When I was a kid, there were 2 doors and all windows open in the classroom.

Dragonflies and lizards would find their way in.
 

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