This should piss the off

[Spoonman]

looks like mr peabody missed this little fact LMAO!

Libya army transport deal frozen after US approval

WASHINGTON – In the months before Libyans revolted and President Barack Obama told leader Moammar Gadhafi to go, the U.S. government was moving to do business with his regime on an increasing scale by quietly approving a $77 million dollar deal to deliver at least 50 refurbished armored troop carriers to the dictator's military.

Congress balked, concerned the deal would improve Libyan army mobility and questioning the Obama administration's support for the agreement, which would have benefited British defense company BAE. The congressional concerns effectively stalled the deal until the turmoil in the country scuttled the sale. Earlier last week, after all military exports to the Gadhafi regime were suspended, the State Department's Directorate of Defense Trade Controls informed Capitol Hill that the deal had been returned without action — effectively off the table, according to U.S. officials who spoke on condition of anonymity to describe the deal's sensitive details.

 

[CountofTuscany]

Now we want to go into Libya? I mean WTF?

 

[mnbasketball]

How about we just stand back and condemn the actions of countries we think are wrong in their actions, but we sure the hell don't need to stick our troops in harms way to in hopes of nation building. Let the people do it on their own if they want it, it will mean much more to them if they do it.

 

[MaggieMae]

Set me reading something here. How little did Bin Ladin have to do with it and where did the Mujahideen's members go?

The Mujahideen were made up of a number of groups. Where did they go? We know that at least two of those groups were the same people who our Spec Ops worked with to oust the Taliban.

This goes to the core of Ronald's foreign policy success. Anyone who cares about his legacy must know this in and out. Would be akin to supporting Nazi policy in the 30s as a buffer against Russian power.

LOL....or maybe FDR and Truman for being allied with the Soviet Union to destroy Nazi Germany?

What it really goes to show you is how ungrateful Muslims can be. We help them rid their nation from an aggressor in the USSR, and they turn around and attack us.

You may blame Reagan (of course, Clinton didn't correct that at all either), but who said we owed them more than helping them free their Country of a Russian puppet government? It really isn't our fault they failed after we gave them a helping hand.

The Taliban wasn't responsible for the 911 attacks if that's what you're talking about. Bin Laden is Wahhibi, expatriated from Saudi Arabia when he began forming his own army of extremists loyal to Wahhabism, a threat to the legitimacy of the Saudi state and royalty. A man without a country, The Taliban gave bin Laden safe refuge, for a price. Fact, not fiction, long before he instigated the attacks on the United States. Do some homework.

 

[MaggieMae]

looks like mr peabody missed this little fact LMAO!

Libya army transport deal frozen after US approval

WASHINGTON – In the months before Libyans revolted and President Barack Obama told leader Moammar Gadhafi to go, the U.S. government was moving to do business with his regime on an increasing scale by quietly approving a $77 million dollar deal to deliver at least 50 refurbished armored troop carriers to the dictator's military.

Congress balked, concerned the deal would improve Libyan army mobility and questioning the Obama administration's support for the agreement, which would have benefited British defense company BAE. The congressional concerns effectively stalled the deal until the turmoil in the country scuttled the sale. Earlier last week, after all military exports to the Gadhafi regime were suspended, the State Department's Directorate of Defense Trade Controls informed Capitol Hill that the deal had been returned without action — effectively off the table, according to U.S. officials who spoke on condition of anonymity to describe the deal's sensitive details.

Gotta love those half-facts.

Libya army transport deal frozen after US approval

On the whole, U.S. defense shipments to Libya under the Obama and Bush administrations have been tightly screened in recent years. U.S. sales were dwarfed by a tide of arms sold by European allies. European Union nations approved sales of $470 million in weapons to Gadhafi's military in 2009 alone - a rush of Italian military aircraft, Maltese small arms and British munitions, according to a January EU arms control report.

By comparison, the U.S. peak was $46 million in approved defense sales in the final year of the Bush administration in 2008 - up from $5 million in Libyan defense sales the year before. The $46 million included $1 million in explosives and incendiary agents, and Toner said the State Department approved shipments of blasting cartridges used in oil exploration. Other U.S. officials cited concerns that such explosive agents could be converted to crude battlefield munitions.

 

[MaggieMae]

Now we want to go into Libya? I mean WTF?

Not a chance.

 

[MaggieMae]

How about we just stand back and condemn the actions of countries we think are wrong in their actions, but we sure the hell don't need to stick our troops in harms way to in hopes of nation building. Let the people do it on their own if they want it, it will mean much more to them if they do it.

That's exactly what we're doing.

 

[Spoonman]

Now we want to go into Libya? I mean WTF?

Not a chance.

IDK, that slapnutz Obama said he feels we should go in.

 

[Avatar4321]

Who should this piss off? And why on earth would anyone get pissed off over a badly dubbed and inaccurate cartoon found on youtube?

 

[newpolitics]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpgJzlY9y8A

the best line is near the end. If the troops ever leave iraq. wasn't that another one of obama's campaign promises? er uhm, failed campaign promises? LMAO Libs just don't get it do they. we can't live without oil. if it was up to the libs we'd be back to driving fred flinstone mobiles, eating un cooked food and freezing our ass off in the winter. who needs oil right? Thank God for the GOP

You said it all... "we can''t live without oil". If this is the case, we are going to perish soon, because the oil is going to run out soon. Then what, GOP?

 

[Spoonman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpgJzlY9y8A

the best line is near the end. If the troops ever leave iraq. wasn't that another one of obama's campaign promises? er uhm, failed campaign promises? LMAO Libs just don't get it do they. we can't live without oil. if it was up to the libs we'd be back to driving fred flinstone mobiles, eating un cooked food and freezing our ass off in the winter. who needs oil right? Thank God for the GOP

You said it all... "we can''t live without oil". If this is the case, we are going to perish soon, because the oil is going to run out soon. Then what, GOP?

Not me, I have solar.

 

[MaggieMae]

Now we want to go into Libya? I mean WTF?

Not a chance.

IDK, that slapnutz Obama said he feels we should go in.

Again, no, he didn't. And please speak English. I don't want to have to go to the Urban Dictionary just for translation of some of your abbreviated version that passes for language.

The United States will NOT be the first one in anymore. If we can't even afford the two wars we're already still fighting, we're sure as hell not going to start another one. Got it?

 

[MaggieMae]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpgJzlY9y8A

the best line is near the end. If the troops ever leave iraq. wasn't that another one of obama's campaign promises? er uhm, failed campaign promises? LMAO Libs just don't get it do they. we can't live without oil. if it was up to the libs we'd be back to driving fred flinstone mobiles, eating un cooked food and freezing our ass off in the winter. who needs oil right? Thank God for the GOP

You said it all... "we can''t live without oil". If this is the case, we are going to perish soon, because the oil is going to run out soon. Then what, GOP?

Oil isn't going to run out soon. And we don't need Libya's oil anyway. But the UK does and Italy does. Why don't THEY do a fly-over? Why must every other country on earth that starts a revolution and disrupts their government and economy look to the United States for military and financial help? Let the countries who have the most to lose fight their own battles.

 

[MaggieMae]

Richard Haass: The U.S. Should Keep Out of Libya - WSJ.com

...Testifying before Congress last week, Mr. Gates pointed out that the first step in establishing a no-fly zone that would ground Libyan aircraft and helicopters would be to suppress Libyan air defenses that could threaten U.S. or allied aircraft. This would entail attacking selected targets. In other words, to establish a no-fly zone would be to go to war.

Mr. Gates was and is correct in reminding people of what implementing a no-fly zone would actually mean. But the reasons for questioning the wisdom of establishing such a zone, or taking other military action, go well beyond his warnings.
...
Removing Gadhafi and those around him could easily set in motion a chain of events in which a different strongman, with the backing of a different tribe, took over. Or it could create a situation in which radical Islamists gain the upper hand. Either way, significant areas of the country would be beyond any government control, creating vacuums exploitable by al Qaeda and similar groups.

The wisdom of arming regime opponents is questionable for the same reason. Pre-9/11 Afghanistan offers something of an object lesson here, as the U.S. armed individuals and groups to defeat the regime backed by the Soviet Union. This policy worked in realizing its immediate goal, but in the years that followed it empowered individuals and groups who carried out an agenda hostile to U.S. interests. Arms transferred become arms over which control is forfeited.

Richard Hass is the President of the Council on Foreign Relations

 

[Avatar4321]

You said it all... "we can''t live without oil". If this is the case, we are going to perish soon, because the oil is going to run out soon. Then what, GOP?

You know, we are continually told that it's going to run out. Yet every year we find more and more of it.

 

[Spoonman]

Not a chance.

IDK, that slapnutz Obama said he feels we should go in.

Again, no, he didn't. And please speak English. I don't want to have to go to the Urban Dictionary just for translation of some of your abbreviated version that passes for language.

The United States will NOT be the first one in anymore. If we can't even afford the two wars we're already still fighting, we're sure as hell not going to start another one. Got it?

ok, if you say so

President Barack Obama has instructed the Pentagon to reposition U.S. military forces around Libya as the administration prepares to exploit a humanitarian crisis to seize de facto control over the largest oil producing country in the continent of Africa, following the advice of top neo-cons who have urged Obama to use U.S. forces to topple the Gaddafi regime.

“We have planners working and various contingency plans and I think it’s safe to say as part of that we’re repositioning forces to be able to provide for that flexibility once decisions are made … to be able to provide options and flexibility,” Colonel David Lapan, a Pentagon spokesman, said today.

Meanwhile, the Obama administration has openly stated its intention to aid Libyan rebels fighting to overthrow Gaddafi, publicly confirming that the revolution has the full blessing and support of the US military-industrial complex.



The warmongering Obama Regime is gearing up for interventionism in Libya. Having increased Bush’s military budgets two years in a row and having expanded the “war on terror” to half the Middle East, the Obama regime, with the support of both neocons and neoliberals, now contemplates war in Libya.

The Week reports:

“Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.), an Obama ally and the Democratic chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, also warns of failing to prevent a slaughter. Obama says he’s considering “a range of potential options, including potential military options.” Can Obama delay taking action much longer? Should he?”

 

[newpolitics]

the best line is near the end. If the troops ever leave iraq. wasn't that another one of obama's campaign promises? er uhm, failed campaign promises? LMAO Libs just don't get it do they. we can't live without oil. if it was up to the libs we'd be back to driving fred flinstone mobiles, eating un cooked food and freezing our ass off in the winter. who needs oil right? Thank God for the GOP

You said it all... "we can''t live without oil". If this is the case, we are going to perish soon, because the oil is going to run out soon. Then what, GOP?

Not me, I have solar.

Wait, let me get this straight. You're a conservative, who says 'we can't live without oil,' yet in a world with a finite amount of oil, you insult Libs for not wanting to use oil, when you yourself have solar? That's pretty ridiculous. You're on both sides of the fence, yet insult liberals and act as a conservative. Get yourself straight, please.

let me correct you. We can live without oil. Libs want to not use oil anymore, and to develop renewable energies. Why is that so wrong to you? Do you just not want to take resonsibility for our consumption, and pretend like oil is going to be here forever? It is a childish stance to take, to deny the finiteness of our oil supply.

 

[TheSeeker]

We can live without oil.

You going to whittle a computer out of wood?

 

[newpolitics]

We can live without oil.

You going to whittle a computer out of wood?

So you are saying, give up? We can't do it? We have to rely on a supply that is finite? How convenient of you to fall short in this one endeavour, but when it comes to finding oil, you'll scrape the back of your grandmothers teeth.

 

[CountofTuscany]

Set me reading something here. How little did Bin Ladin have to do with it and where did the Mujahideen's members go?

The Mujahideen were made up of a number of groups. Where did they go? We know that at least two of those groups were the same people who our Spec Ops worked with to oust the Taliban.

This goes to the core of Ronald's foreign policy success. Anyone who cares about his legacy must know this in and out. Would be akin to supporting Nazi policy in the 30s as a buffer against Russian power.

LOL....or maybe FDR and Truman for being allied with the Soviet Union to destroy Nazi Germany?

What it really goes to show you is how ungrateful Muslims can be. We help them rid their nation from an aggressor in the USSR, and they turn around and attack us.

You may blame Reagan (of course, Clinton didn't correct that at all either), but who said we owed them more than helping them free their Country of a Russian puppet government? It really isn't our fault they failed after we gave them a helping hand.

The Taliban wasn't responsible for the 911 attacks if that's what you're talking about. Bin Laden is Wahhibi, expatriated from Saudi Arabia when he began forming his own army of extremists loyal to Wahhabism, a threat to the legitimacy of the Saudi state and royalty. A man without a country, The Taliban gave bin Laden safe refuge, for a price. Fact, not fiction, long before he instigated the attacks on the United States. Do some homework.

Which makes them guilty. Thank you very much