This Is Why We Have An Electoral College

[meaner gene]

No you are not.. It has been proven wrong.


The ‘great switch’ is a lie. Democrats try to get around the historical flaws in the supposed ‘great switch’ by claiming that Richard Nixon employed a ‘Southern Strategy’ to get elected. We can look at that too, against the historic record, to see if there is any truth to it.
The Myth of the 'Southern Strategy' - The Daily Libertarian
thedailylibertarian.com/the-myth-of-the-southern-strategy/

You're answering the wrong question.

It's called giving those supporting slavery an advantage to make up for their lack of population. Making their suffrage big enough to overturn the will of the majority.

They were able to stop congress from abolishing slavery as long as they had a say in it.

I'm stating a historical fact. That as long as they had a vote in congress, they were able to stop any legislation from abolishing the practice of slavery.

You changing subject speaks volumes.

 

[meaner gene]

I'm stating a historical fact. That as long as they had a vote in congress, they were able to stop any legislation from abolishing the practice of slavery.

What does that have to do with today? You did not answer. What is your point? Just to argue?

Just stating the irony of using a photograph of people who never voted for a democrat, claiming they voted for democrats.

 

[meaner gene]

I can go a step further, and almost guarantee that nobody in that photograph ever voted for a democrat.

I bet their descendants of those in the picture have voted stupidly for a Demonrat.

That's not what the photograph claims.

How about addressing the fact that what was posted was historically wrong.

 

[meaner gene]

What does that have to do with today? You did not answer. What is your point? Just to argue?

History.
If you don't know the origin of a practice, you lose all relevance.

 

[mamooth]

No they didn't. Most of the gray zones did not support slavery. It was only supported by the 11 states of the Confederacy, and only by a tiny fraction of the (very wealthy) people living there.

No, slavery in the south had massive support from all the whites, rich and poor. All the whites had been propagandized into believing that any free negroes would run around constantly raping all the white wimmen', and therefore slavery had to continue for their own protection.

 

[alang1216]

Not everyone would agree that zones are more important than people.

People live in zones.

Quite true but one zone can have one person and another a million people. Would you say they two zones are equals? Or, there can be two zones, each with one person, and a third zone with one million people. Should the two, single-person zones be able to dictate to the third, million-person zone? If you were one of those million would want to change the that system?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

I'm stating a historical fact. That as long as they had a vote in congress, they were able to stop any legislation from abolishing the practice of slavery.

What does that have to do with today? You did not answer. What is your point? Just to argue?

Just stating the irony of using a photograph of people who never voted for a democrat, claiming they voted for democrats.

If you had any intelligence you would understand the reference to it...You are a prog slave...

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

I can go a step further, and almost guarantee that nobody in that photograph ever voted for a democrat.

I bet their descendants of those in the picture have voted stupidly for a Demonrat.

That's not what the photograph claims.

How about addressing the fact that what was posted was historically wrong.

Southern White Democrats owned slaves, today all Democrats own slaves... You are a prog slave.

 

[meaner gene]

Just stating the irony of using a photograph of people who never voted for a democrat, claiming they voted for democrats.

If you had any intelligence you would understand the reference to it...You are a prog slave...

It's like posting a picture of the government in Germany in the 1930;s - 1940's and labeling them "socialists"

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Imagine living in the gray zones, and the blue zones voted opposite of you.

Half the US population lives in these blue counties.

This is why we have an Electoral College. Civics 101. You're welcome.

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And it came about because those grey zones supported slavery while the blue ones opposed slavery.

And you can't let the majority position outlaw slavery.

That might be the stupidest post in the history of this forum.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Just stating the irony of using a photograph of people who never voted for a democrat, claiming they voted for democrats.

If you had any intelligence you would understand the reference to it...You are a prog slave...

It's like posting a picture of the government in Germany in the 1930;s - 1940's and labeling them "socialists"

It was true back then , it is true today, that you are a fucking slave....

 

[Crepitus]

This Is Why We Have An Electoral College

So the slaveholders could use their slaves for political gain.

 

[meaner gene]

Just stating the irony of using a photograph of people who never voted for a democrat, claiming they voted for democrats.

It was true back then , it is true today, that you are a fucking slave....

Those people would have never voted for a democrat back when the photo was taken. Their right to vote wasn't guaranteed for another 35 years.

 

[meaner gene]

This Is Why We Have An Electoral College

So the slaveholders could use their slaves for political gain.

But only 3/5ths of them.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Just stating the irony of using a photograph of people who never voted for a democrat, claiming they voted for democrats.

It was true back then , it is true today, that you are a fucking slave....

Those people would have never voted for a democrat back when the photo was taken. Their right to vote wasn't guaranteed for another 35 years.

But back then blacks were allowed to be in Congress. Who do you think those blacks sided with?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

This Is Why We Have An Electoral College

So the slaveholders could use their slaves for political gain.

But only 3/5ths of them.

You have no fucking clue about the 3/5th clause , as you keep repeating over and over.

The Three-Fifths Compromise: History and Significance (thoughtco.com)

It benefitted Southern states to include enslaved people in their population counts, as that calculation would give them more seats in the House of Representatives and thus more political power. Delegates from Northern states, however, objected on the grounds that enslaved people could not vote, own property, or take advantage of the privileges that White men enjoyed.

And how would a representative of the South vote, when it was slaves that were allowing that extra rep to be for that state? A slave at the time was a piece of property and the north couldnt have their horses or mules be counted but instead of not allowing a slave any recognition, they compromised with the 3/5th clause.

30,000 people would get 1 representative.
50,000 slaves would get 1 representative.
Southern White Democrats could buy a slave or breed a slave to add to his increase of a representative.

 

[Leo123]

And how would a representative of the South vote, when it was slaves that were allowing that extra rep to be for that state? A slave at the time was a piece of property and the north couldnt have their horses or mules be counted but instead of not allowing a slave any recognition, they compromised with the 3/5th clause.

30,000 people would get 1 representative.
50,000 slaves would get 1 representative.
Southern White Democrats could buy a slave or breed a slave to add to his increase of a representative.

The 3/5 clause opened the door to emancipation, IMO. It also probably enhanced the Negro population at that time. Lots of folks want to frame history by today's standards in order to denigrate whatever person or group they want to get rid of. The useful idiots parrot that trash. Slavery was an institution. Many people disagreed with it they were called Abolitionists. A Civil War was fought over the ending of slavery. These yahoos overlook all our past, the lessons learned, the blood shed, the lives wasted and, instead of learning from the past, wish to repeat it. Hard to understand such blatant foolishness and ignorance.

 

[meaner gene]

And how would a representative of the South vote, when it was slaves that were allowing that extra rep to be for that state? A slave at the time was a piece of property and the north couldnt have their horses or mules be counted but instead of not allowing a slave any recognition, they compromised with the 3/5th clause.

30,000 people would get 1 representative.
50,000 slaves would get 1 representative.
Southern White Democrats could buy a slave or breed a slave to add to his increase of a representative.

The 3/5ths compromise was extremely powerful in states like Mississippi, who had more slaves than they had voters. If not for their Jim Crowe laws after the 14th amendment, they would have been voted out of office.

 

[meaner gene]

The 3/5 clause opened the door to emancipation, IMO.

That clause gave slave states enough extra representation that they not only could, but did prevent congress from ever outlawing slavery as long as slave states enjoyed suffrage in congress.

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[Leo123]

That clause gave slave states enough extra representation that they not only could, but did prevent congress from ever outlawing slavery as long as slave states enjoyed suffrage in congress.

I still have no idea what kind of point you are trying to make. That slavery is bad? We know that, we shed blood over its abolition. WTF is your point?