This Is Why We Have An Electoral College

[Flash]

The Electoral process is dead in the US. So is our republic.

The Democrat Dirty Tricks Department has learned how to steal elections by the scam of counting unverified mail in ballots in Democrat controlled swing districts.

They have graduated from knowing how to do it in a few districts to knowing how to do in any district where they control the counting.

We will never have another honest election. If anybody thinks otherwise they are being either naive or delusional.

I agree totally. Sad to say, but a military coup may be the only answer to put America back on its feet, if it isn't already destroyed too much, by Biden's Mexican border welcome mat, and his busing program.

Even if we could rescue the country from the filthy Leftest we are too broke and divided. Too many of the destructive things like the welfare state and big government are embedded. We need a major restart to restore the Republic and return individual Liberty. Unfortunately to do that it will take a revolution and bloodshed. These Leftest love their free stuff and will not go without resistance.

Trump undid some of the damage and would have continued had not the Democrats (with the help from the Chinese) stole the election. The Democrats fucked all of us. They even fucked the Moon Bats that supported Joe Dufus but the Moon Bats are too dumb to know it.

 

[alang1216]

Not everyone would agree that zones are more important than people.

90% of the nation is hardly a "zone"

A population that is ruled by a minority of the people is not really a democracy. Minorities should be protected but should not govern, that is the path to revolution. Just ask the Tzar.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Imagine living in the gray zones, and the blue zones voted opposite of you.

Half the US population lives in these blue counties.

This is why we have an Electoral College. Civics 101. You're welcome.

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And it came about because those grey zones supported slavery while the blue ones opposed slavery.

And you can't let the majority position outlaw slavery.

Slavery is irrelevant, slavery happened because it was right at that time. Societies change and if you judge the past by today's values and laws, it all fails. Likewise, the present will fail when the future compare it to their values and laws.

 

[meaner gene]

This thread is about the ELECTORAL COLLEGE vs the popular vote. Stop posting off topic. Further off topic posts will be reported. You have been warned.

And the very reason behind the Electoral College was for the protection of slavery.

Slave states knew if they let more people vote, they would vote to abolish slavery.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Why do you support giving a vote in Montana, Wyoming or Alaska 3-4 times the weight as a vote in California, Texas or New York?

Population vs. Electoral Votes - FairVote

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Electoral College is 'vestige' of slavery, say some Constitutional scholars

A lesser-known part of the Electoral College's history: its relationship to slavery in the U.S.

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The EC was designed to PREVENT large population areas or cities from dictating the rest of the country, did you ever read what the founding fathers say?

 

[meaner gene]

Slavery is irrelevant, slavery happened because it was right at that time. Societies change and if you judge the past by today's values and laws, it all fails. Likewise, the present will fail when the future compare it to their values and laws.

There would be no EC if it wasn't for slavery. The constitutional compromises were about slavery. Why is it so hard to get it through your mind, that any discussion about the electoral college is about slavery.

 

[Sunsettommy]

This thread is about the ELECTORAL COLLEGE vs the popular vote. Stop posting off topic. Further off topic posts will be reported. You have been warned.

And the very reason behind the Electoral College was for the protection of slavery.

Slave states knew if they let more people vote, they would vote to abolish slavery.

It was ONE political party that ended Slavery by the Amendment process, not by a popular vote. The majority long wanted to abolish slavery for decades before1868, but had to deal with succession threats, and political infighting, EC has NOTHING to do with it!

 

[meaner gene]

The EC was designed to PREVENT large population areas or cities from dictating the rest of the country, did you ever read what the founding fathers say?

Absolutely wrong. The biggest state when the constitution was written was a slave state (Virginia)

 

[meaner gene]

The EC was designed to PREVENT large population areas or cities from dictating the rest of the country, did you ever read what the founding fathers say?

WOW, you hit the nail on the head, but you forgot what you were using the nail for.
The nail was to firmly attach slavery to the United States, and the EC was the hammer that drove it.

 

[meaner gene]

It was ONE political party that ended Slavery by the Amendment process, not by a popular vote. The majority long wanted to abolish slavery for decades before1868, but had to deal with succession threats, and political infighting, EC has NOTHING to do with it!

Actually the extra suffrage that the constitutional compromises granted was why the majority who long wanted to abolish slavery for decades, could never do it.

The anti-slavery amendments would never have passed except for blackmailing the southern states.

Former Confederate states are required to ratify the amendment to be allowed back into the Union. Louisiana and South Carolina ratify the amendment. Louisiana and South Carolina ratify the 14th amendment. This gives the amendment the necessary three-fourths of the states to ratify.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Slavery is irrelevant, slavery happened because it was right at that time. Societies change and if you judge the past by today's values and laws, it all fails. Likewise, the present will fail when the future compare it to their values and laws.

There would be no EC if it wasn't for slavery. The constitutional compromises were about slavery. Why is it so hard to get it through your mind, that any discussion about the electoral college is about slavery.

Because it's irrelevant, we live in the present. You guys get so obsessed with the past; try to live in the here and now and stop spouting stupid posts on your soapbox.

So the EC was born from slavery, so fucking what. Just go and vote every four years and get on with your life.

 

[Leo123]

Actually the extra suffrage that the constitutional compromises granted was why the majority who long wanted to abolish slavery for decades, could never do it.

The anti-slavery amendments would never have passed except for blackmailing the southern states.

Former Confederate states are required to ratify the amendment to be allowed back into the Union. Louisiana and South Carolina ratify the amendment. Louisiana and South Carolina ratify the 14th amendment. This gives the amendment the necessary three-fourths of the states to ratify.

And......So what? Again, what is your point?

 

[protectionist]

A population that is ruled by a minority of the people is not really a democracy. Minorities should be protected but should not govern, that is the path to revolution. Just ask the Tzar.

Of course, which is why we in America are not a democracy right now. We are being ruled (and moronically & despicably) by a tiny minority with 2 clowns (Biden/Harris) who almost nobody supports. If the REAL results of the 2020 elections were revealed, they would show Biden with a vote of 10% at best, and almost all of that from illegal aliens.

The following video is a good illustration of the lack of support the Biden/Harris puppets have >>

 

[protectionist]

Because it's irrelevant, we live in the present. You guys get so obsessed with the past; try to live in the here and now and stop spouting stupid posts on your soapbox.

So the EC was born from slavery, so fucking what. Just go and vote every four years and get on with your life.

When liberals have no defense against something they dont like, they change the subject to dodge the issue.

 

[protectionist]

And the very reason behind the Electoral College was for the protection of slavery.

Slave states knew if they let more people vote, they would vote to abolish slavery.

You have been reported to the moderators for continual posting OFF TOPIC.

Again,......."This thread is about the ELECTORAL COLLEGE vs the popular vote. Stop posting off topic"

 

[protectionist]

There would be no EC if it wasn't for slavery. The constitutional compromises were about slavery. Why is it so hard to get it through your mind, that any discussion about the electoral college is about slavery.

NO, it most certainly is NOT. Your DERAIL attempt of this thread, by changing its subject is a laughingstock. You look stupid.

 

[protectionist]

How does the electoral college help in that situation?

You're not THAT ignorant.

And the answer to that, is posted almost 100 times in this thread. Stop being ridiculous.

 

[alang1216]

A population that is ruled by a minority of the people is not really a democracy. Minorities should be protected but should not govern, that is the path to revolution. Just ask the Tzar.

Of course, which is why we in America are not a democracy right now. We are being ruled (and moronically & despicably) by a tiny minority with 2 clowns (Biden/Harris) who almost nobody supports. If the REAL results of the 2020 elections were revealed, they would show Biden with a vote of 10% at best, and almost all of that from illegal aliens.

The following video is a good illustration of the lack of support the Biden/Harris puppets have >>

You're welcome to live in your fantasy world but don't expect the rest of us to join you.

The pre-election polls showed Biden was ahead by a 52-44 percent margin in October. How you can think that margin changed so dramatically in a month shows me your grip on reality is tenuous at best.

 

[San Souci]

Why does the presidency means so much?

Is it possible that the government powers are not balanced or constructed correctly?

What are the government powers?

How is it that Joe Biden is turning out a bunch of executive orders that upend the tranquility we had going?

Dear protectionist and Prof.Lunaphiles
I can see what Prof L adds about the Presidential role indirectly connects to the OP regarding the Electoral vote split (with the most densely populous urban areas voting Blue/Liberal and the larger areas of land showing Red/Conservative).

1. First to answer the point Prof L brings up:
It is the LIBERAL belief in statist/centralized authority of govt to "promote the general welfare" and "represent the collective needs of the people" that causes this disproportionate and unchecked dependence on the roles of Presidential executive orders and Judicial Court orders which the Liberals rely on to "establish their rights in public policy".

Conservatives by the belief in reserving rights of people and states, usually don't depend on federal govt or Presidential authority as much which should be limited to EXTERNAL issues of military security and interstate commerce. So the emphasis on the physical land areas predominantly Red corresponds to Conservative beliefs about the role of Govt.

But only because Liberals enacted so much social programming through federal laws and executive orders, it became necessary "for even Conservatives" to go through federal processes to remove or reform those policies they don't even believe belong in federal govt in the first place.

So the growing authority shifted to orders by Courts or by the President, by the Liberal political religion and beliefs in Statism, made those positions in govt more critical.

2. As for relating back to the OP.

The hyped up and inflated role of Presidents is used to get voters to the polls.

In particular, tying health care, education, wages and other benefits to getting a Liberal Democrat elected drives their targeted populations to vote by the busloads.

So indirectly, Prof L post asking where did this inflated role of President come from, that overrides Constitutional limits, points out the reason for the leftwing voting patterns in national elections.

It is liking hyping up all Catholics to go vote for their pope.

Conservatives don't normally depend on the President "for subjective social policies," the Liberal Left does that. But that is enough to incite both sides to vote in patterns consistent with Liberal dependence on govt "for social benefits in higher demand among high density urban populations" vs Conservative voters in areas where greater independence from govt is the predominant approach.

Just remember. Democrats get 100% of the Welfare Vote. And 95% of Welfare is Urban.

 

[protectionist]

You're welcome to live in your fantasy world but don't expect the rest of us to join you.

The pre-election polls showed Biden was ahead by a 52-44 percent margin in October. How you can think that margin changed so dramatically in a month shows me your grip on reality is tenuous at best.

YOUR fantasy world comes from leftist media, which brainwashes you to believe there is an ounce of credibility to those absurd Democrat polls, which Republicans don't respond to (and your media doesn't tell you that).

HA HA. 52-44, huh ? Boy, are you ever stupid. During the campaign months, Biden couldn't even fill up a small parking lot, while Trump was getting tens of thousands at his rallies. Biden just laid low in his basement bunker, confident that his fraud operation would carry him through.

Maybe you need to take another look at the video >>