This headline is VERY wrong

Discussion in 'Politics' started by RetiredGySgt, Nov 23, 2007.

  1. RetiredGySgt
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    This sob story is meant to tug at our hearts and make us want to cry and change things for all the poor "immigrants" illegally in this country.

    JUST one problem they are NOT immigrants, they are illegal ALIENS. He broke the law long before he began lying about who he was. He made a conscious choice to continue to break the law and add to the laws he broke by assuming a new identity and lying about who he was.

    Would we be getting this sob story as written if some white Felon that had always wanted to help and be a cop illegally assumed someone else's identity and did the same thing, if if said felon was a REAL good cop?

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071123/ap_on_re_us/officer_s_secret
     
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    I don't disagree with a lot of what you say, but I DO find this case rather exceptional and interesting.

    One major exception being that he was unaware that he was illegal until he expressed a desire to be a cop and his father told him. So you can't really say he started off by breaking the law when in fact his parents did so without his knowledge or consent.

    While I am a staunch advocate of immigration laws and enforcing them, I also think that an immigration process that could take up to 10 years could use a little help.

    Furthermore, if it's just about doing the right thing, I think firing his brother is bullshit, and that rather than hammer this guy because he is an embarrassment to Fed and local identity thugs and their lackadaisical identity process, his service as a police officer, legal or no, HAPPENED and should be taken into consideration.
     
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    So the ends justify the means? He Knew when he chose to lie about who he was what the deal was. As for his service, it will be taken into account at his sentencing for lying.
     
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    RGS: showing about as much real compassionate conservatism as his beloved CinC!:lol:
     
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    That's a very narrow viewpoint, IMO. So the fact that this guy served honorably as a law officer means absolutely nothing? Only the fact that he became one the only way he could without going through years and years of bureaucratic BS does?

    I can't say I agree with you on this one. This is one of those gray area exceptions, IMO.

    What would you have done when you decided to join the Corps if your father had suddenly laid on you that you couldn't because you weren't a legal citizen? Turn yourself in to the nearest INS agent?
     
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    Unlike you, I don't often agree with RGS, however in this case I do. What he 'wanted to be' was closed off, not because of an administrative wrong, but his parents wrong. When the dad told him he would have to return to Mexico and wait perhaps 10 years to re-enter legally, he would have been 26, young enough to do the police gig.

    If that didn't suit him, he could have chosen differently. I'm not saying he's not a 'good' person, but what he did went against any oath he took, that means something.
     
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    Are you saying that had my great great grandfather not taken an American Indian to be his bride that I too might be in jeapardy? YOU FREAKS ARE JUST SO GODDAMNED PREDICTABLE!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Guess I disagree with you too, then. ;)
     
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    Doesn't happen all that often, but yeah! ;)
     
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    He told a white lie that was technically illegal, but was not intended to hurt anyone.

    He wanted to serve his community and his country as a police officer, and evidently did a good job at it.

    This guy has already proved himself to be worthy of being an american. By serving his community in the way he did, he's probably already a better american, in character and values, than most of us on this board.

    Give him citizenship I say. These are the kind of people we should want to be americans.
     
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