Proportional Allocation of Eelectoral Votes

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    There is an initiative in CA to change the state law to allocate electoral votes according to the proportion of votes cast foe each candidate, rather than the current Winner Takes All system:

    http://ag.ca.gov/cms_pdfs/initiatives/2007-07-17_07-0032_Initiative.pdf

    Certainly, this will better reflect the will of the people and more effectively represent the people od CA in the electoral college.

    Should CA adopt this?
    Why or why not?
     
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    Can't say I'm a fan of the electoral votes at all. Seems to me the popular vote allows the individual his say, while the electoral vote disenfranchises the minority voter.
     
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    Perhaps. But, given that the smaller states will never allow the replacement of the EC with something else, that's the system we have and the system we WILL have.

    CA looks to better prepresent its voters through proportional allocation. Should it?
     
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    Living in California and seeing this state being controlled by a minority of counties that have the largest populace, I would support this bill. It would help restore our voice.

    Red is Republican.
    Blue is democrat
    Pink is Right leaning
    Lt. Blue is left leaning.

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    Gunny, i really think the only thing you and I don't see eye to eye on is necessity for war.

    I think the electoral college is a joke.

    The people ALONE should pick the president, just like they pick anyone else for office in this country.
     
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    You aren't looking at population. You're looking at land. The electoral college allows LAND to vote, established in an agrarian, aristocratic society.

    And pssssssssssst... the most populace counties SHOULD have a larger say. They're more populace. Or do you think people living in a county with 1,500 people should have the same say as, oh, I don't know, LA?
     
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    The electoral college is an equalizer for the smaller states. Thus Good.

    I think the only modification needed is proportional. Each congressional district gets a vote. Then they get two additional. One for the state legislature and one for the state govenor.

    Just remember that the sainted founders never intended for us to vote except in the house elections.
     
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    Why should someone from, oh, I don't know, rural town, Iowa, have more of a say in who president of the u.s. is than I do?

    Why good?
     
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    Lame.

    Bush fans love those maps that shows seas of red.

    It's irrelevant. Land mass and geography don't vote. People vote.

    I've been in most of those red counties on your map. In most of them, there are more cows, more chickens, and more rice fields than there are people. They are dominated by vast areas of empy farm land, forest, and grazing land. Rice fields and cows don't vote.
     
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    The electoral College is proportional .....

    Each state has a number of electors equal to the number of its U.S. senators (2 in each state) plus the number of its U.S. representatives, which varies according to the state's population. Currently, the Electoral College includes 538 electors, 535 for the total number of congressional members, and three who represent Washington, D.C., as allowed by the 23rd Amendment.

    It tries to protect the minority from the majority....


    Otherwise, California and New York might just a well pick the new president...
     

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