There is a moral responsibility to provide for the unfortunate

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    Think so?

    -How so?
    -According to whom?
    -Who are you to force everyone to act according to your version of morality?
     
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    Yes, according to my beliefs, the Bible and who said anything about me forcing someone else to give charity?
     
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    Depends on how one defines unfortunate, how one decides how much support should be given and in what form, and who gets it and for how long. And also the best way to provide aid, through the gov't or private means.

    Here's another question: is it moral to borrow money for this purpose that future generations will have to pay for? How will support for future unfortunates be funded, or does anyone think this can go on forever?
     
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    Please feel free to expound on the particulars, keeping in mind the questions I asked.
     
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    Sure, but that does not supersede the moral responsibility to not take what doesn't belong to you. If I rob the grocery store of its till and give some of that money to a homeless guy, I've not done the moral thing.

    Theft is theft and forcing some to labor on the behalf of others, that's slavery. Both immoral.
     
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    Consider the public health issue. People without access to health care can contract communicable diseases which when left untreated they can help to spread to the entire population. So what may look to be charity (society providing health care to the poor ) is really a form of enlightened self interest.
     
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    Not sure how this addresses the questions.
    Please revise your response, kepping in mind all of the questions asked.
     
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    It is innate in humans.

    It is universal in religions.

    It is common sense.
     
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    Just so I understand:

    -How so?
    -According to whom?
    -Who are you to force everyone to act according to your version of morality?
    Doesn't the Constitution prevent the state from institutionalizing religious dortrine?
     
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    The poster is so eager to argue that the content is not thoroughly examined or understood.

    Innate according to looking around at all cultures throughout time, as anyone with eyes can see.

    Religious universality is rare and remarkable. It witnesses to the fundamental humanity of the instinct. No one said anything about forcing anything.

    Perhaps the last aspect perplexes the most. One has it or not.
     

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